Crashing all the time. Almost certainly better cities/Unique landscapes.

[Quiggleberry]

Hi,

So I have been having this issue a while and have had to restart a frustrating amount of times, but every time the issue keeps coming back, so it seems not to be a save corruption issue but literally the files aren't cooperating. When I'm in certain areas, namely Skingrad Outskirts and Chorrol, I get crashes every couple of minutes if that. There is no specific crash that happens every time at a certain place. Just randomly the game will freeze, sometimes when loading, sometimes after trying to enter Chorrol and sometimes just a normal CTD in the wilderness.

Here's my load order copied from Wrye Bash:

Active Mod Files:

00 Oblivion.esm

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]

02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74]

03 TamRes.esm

04 TamRes_LandscapeResource.esm

05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.40]

06 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm

07 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.7]

08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5]

09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp

0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9]

0D Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.5]

0E TamRes.esp

++ LoadingScreens.esp

** LoadingScreensSI.esp

0F All Natural.esp [Version 1.36]

10 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36]

11 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]

12 IlluminationWithin.esp

13 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

14 DaggerfallBooks.esp

15 MorrowindBooks.esp

16 OblivionReloaded.esp

17 OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp

18 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]

19 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

1A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.40]

** Cobl Tweaks - OOO.esp [Version 1.72]

1B Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0]

1C TheElderCouncil.esp

1D 24hrarenaalivev2.esp

1E 24hrarenaalivev2towers.esp

1F 24hrarenaalivelow.esp

20 Knights.esp

21 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp

22 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

23 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

24 xulTheHeath.esp

25 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]

26 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

27 TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]

28 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]

29 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3]

2A xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]

2B xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5]

2C xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3]

2D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]

2E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

2F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

30 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]

31 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

32 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]

33 xulPantherRiver.esp

34 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

35 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]

36 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]

37 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1]

38 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

39 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp [Version 2.0]

3A xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3]

3B xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]

3C xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.6]

3D OOO-Snowdale patch.esp [Version 1.1]

3E xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3]

3F OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.2]

40 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4]

41 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2]

42 OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0]

43 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.2]

44 Fort Akatosh Redux.esp

** Grass Overhaul.esp

45 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]

46 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 6.0.7]

47 Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 6.0.2]

48 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.0.7]

49 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 1.5]

4A Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.0.7]

4B Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.5]

4C Better Cities Full - OOO.esp [Version 6.0.6]

4D Better Imperial City - OOO.esp [Version 6.0.6]

4E Better Cities Bravil - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp [Version 1.5]

4F Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 1.5]

50 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Snowdale.esp [Version 1.5]

51 Better Cities IC Waterfront - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 1.5]

52 Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp [Version 6.0.0]

++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

53 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[Quiggleberry]

No wait. It's everywhere. Everywhere crashes in and around and in pretty much every cell between Skingrad and Kvatch and presumably everywhere else. I installed everything carefully according to the instructions and every f*#@ing cell is broken.

[bevilex]

Big mods put together increase memory usage of the game. Oblivion cannot use more than 2GB of RAM (or 4GB if you have the 4GB patch).

When the limit is reached, the game crash.

 

For instance, Better Cities + Skingrad Outskirts increase memory usage of that area, and so the probability to CTD, because both modify heavily this area, add new objects, NPCs etc.

 

I suggest you to install the following mods :

- 4GB patch

- MoreHeap

- Oblivion Stutter Remover

- ENBoost

 

Maybe it will help.

Edited October 4, 2016 by bevilex

[Quiggleberry]

I will try that, I use 4gb patch and oblivion reloaded so apparently ENBoost shouldn't be installed but I will try OSR and MoreHeap.

Would changing graphics card help at all if it was possibly to do with VRAM? I was planning to update anyway.

[bevilex]

It depends on your current hardware. But i am sure the problem is more on RAM side than VRAM side. Oblivion is a 10 year old game, it shouldn't be too hard to run even for an old graphic card.

Installing too much mods will often cause CTDs due to the way Oblivion's engine manages RAM memory.

Edited October 4, 2016 by bevilex

[Quiggleberry]

Well I reran the 4gb patch, installed OSR and MoreHeap and have not had a crash in outdoor cells in hours, including in some areas where it would nearly always just freeze up at certain points. Better fps too, fingers crossed it stays that way. Unfortunately it's still very hit and miss whether I can enter or leave Skingrad or Chorrol (possibly others, those are the two that have had problems so far) without a crash. The image freezes just before the loading screen pops up and the sound cuts out. Seems like unique landscapes is mostly sorted (hopefully) but Better Cities, which I just can't play without, is still having some issues.

[bevilex]

That's good to hear ;)

You might want to use a memory purger too. You say you are using Oblivion reloaded. Just assign the purge function to a hotkey and purge the memory just before entering/leaving those cities for instance. More generally use the purge function before you enter heavily modded areas.