Aurielius Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 *sigh sigh sigh humph* in the US, simply enough, i would follow the god damn Constitution. something that hasnt been done since....well a long freaking time ago.*chuckles* Now wouldn't that be a change of Pace? Have no desire to be 'El Supremo' and like Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus only someone who doesn't want the job is really right for the position, so I'll settle for the Constitution as the best choice for governing the Republic and be grateful that all you proto dictators will never get a shot at any of your ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balagor Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 God I promised myself to stay out. @Gin, it´s not rude to tell you that the world is bigger than GB, at least not more than saying *Sighs even louder at yet another socialist*.With that said, I will tell everybody about yet another Scandinavian country, you all now wich, where the circumstances are the same as from wher @ITA prevails.I can tell you that HCS do work in a government owned situation, that railroad runs on time when owned by gouvernment. How do I know? I am simply old enough to remember the days before the private hijacker took over, and everything was just fine.But we wanted to spend money on something else, and we wanted to spend money we did not have, and we wanted to participate in expencive wars. Good for the shareholders,bad for everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDNA Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 *sigh sigh sigh humph* in the US, simply enough, i would follow the god damn Constitution. something that hasnt been done since....well a long freaking time ago.*chuckles* Now wouldn't that be a change of Pace? Have no desire to be 'El Supremo' and like Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus only someone who doesn't want the job is really right for the position, so I'll settle for the Constitution as the best choice for governing the Republic and be grateful that all you proto dictators will never get a shot at any of your ideas.Thank you for voting for me, but I still resign if you place that burden upon me. Every argument I have read here supported this. The only power everybody needs on this planet, is the power to overcome powerlessness and oppression that is forced by others upon a person and it is the only power everybody needs to have and the only power all should have. It is impossible, men of Athens, utterly impossible, to acquire power that will last, by unrighteousness, by perjury, and by falsehood. Such power holds out for a moment, or for a brief hour; it blossoms brightly, perhaps, with fair hopes; but time detects the fraud, and the flower falls withered about its stem.The Public Orations of Demosthenes Vol. 1Demosthenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 God I promised myself to stay out. @Gin, it´s not rude to tell you that the world is bigger than GB, at least not more than saying *Sighs even louder at yet another socialist*.With that said, I will tell everybody about yet another Scandinavian country, you all now wich, where the circumstances are the same as from wher @ITA prevails.I can tell you that HCS do work in a government owned situation, that railroad runs on time when owned by gouvernment. How do I know? I am simply old enough to remember the days before the private hijacker took over, and everything was just fine.But we wanted to spend money on something else, and we wanted to spend money we did not have, and we wanted to participate in expencive wars. Good for the shareholders,bad for everybody else. But how many times do I have to repeat this, I know very well that the world is bigger than GB, I was using illustrative examples of how mass nationalisation doesn't work, which happened to be from the experience that we had in my country, which happens to be the UK. I wasn't aware that it was illegal to mention examples from your own country, or is it just an anti British thing going on here? Yes, the way Ita speaks is ill mannered because she is being patronising. It is a common socialist attitude to speak as if conservative posters are ignorant fools who don't know what they are talking about. And it gets ruddy well tiresome. I am old enough to remember an experience of nationalisation that is completely different from yours. People did not give a cuss about how they did their work, when they were not on strike anyway, because it was almost impossible to fire anyone - nationalised industries were so heavily unionised that managers were unable to manage. For example, heaven forbid that a colliery manager would discipline a coal face worker found asleep on the job because it would be "everybody out brothers!" and on strike they would go. Our railway workers unions were, and still are to some extent(although nowadays they are somewhat hamstrung)also infamously militant. And guess what? We now no longer have much deep mining of coal and our railways have contracted in size. As jim_uk alluded to before, they pulled their own houses down around their ears. Nationalisation can frequently make the workers careless about the standard or quantity of their work but very truculent when anyone attempts to hold them to account. This is why there are frequent scandals about the treatment of NHS patients, especially the elderly, some of whom are not lucky enough to have gobby relatives like me who will confront staff when we see something that is not right. Shoddy workers cannot be fired without the intervention of militant trade unions. So they do as they like, and often that means "as little as possible". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Why would deregulation help? Can someone explain that to me? Doesn't seem to make much sense. Over regulation costs money and makes your businesses uncompetitive, there's a reason why the east is rolling in money while the west is facing going broke. Take a look at the E.U, it's on the point of collapse, it's a great example of what happens when you combine over regulation with socialist spend and waste policies. This is worth watching, it's a conservative MEP putting the then PM straight on a few things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXsIf everything is equally regulated why does that get rid of competition? That, and what exactly is being over regulated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Why would deregulation help? Can someone explain that to me? Doesn't seem to make much sense. Over regulation costs money and makes your businesses uncompetitive, there's a reason why the east is rolling in money while the west is facing going broke. Take a look at the E.U, it's on the point of collapse, it's a great example of what happens when you combine over regulation with socialist spend and waste policies. This is worth watching, it's a conservative MEP putting the then PM straight on a few things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXsIf everything is equally regulated why does that get rid of competition? That, and what exactly is being over regulated? In a global economy everything is not equally regulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 if i were the leader, i would make Ron Paul the president, because i have no experience what so ever in politics, and as good as my ideals may be, i wouldnt know what im doing and as such wouldnt be any better in the chair then the next person. he, however, shares my ideals and the ideals of our Founding Fathers, and has years and years of experience in politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Why would deregulation help? Can someone explain that to me? Doesn't seem to make much sense. Over regulation costs money and makes your businesses uncompetitive, there's a reason why the east is rolling in money while the west is facing going broke. Take a look at the E.U, it's on the point of collapse, it's a great example of what happens when you combine over regulation with socialist spend and waste policies. This is worth watching, it's a conservative MEP putting the then PM straight on a few things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXsIf everything is equally regulated why does that get rid of competition? That, and what exactly is being over regulated? In a global economy everything is not equally regulated.Okay so why does regulation in a certain country get rid of competition world wide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Why would deregulation help? Can someone explain that to me? Doesn't seem to make much sense. Over regulation costs money and makes your businesses uncompetitive, there's a reason why the east is rolling in money while the west is facing going broke. Take a look at the E.U, it's on the point of collapse, it's a great example of what happens when you combine over regulation with socialist spend and waste policies. If everything is equally regulated why does that get rid of competition? That, and what exactly is being over regulated? In a global economy everything is not equally regulated.Okay so why does regulation in a certain country get rid of competition world wide? It puts the over regulated country at a disadvantage, it's not rocket science, if company A is wrapped up in red tape while company B isn't who is going to be in the better position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Why would deregulation help? Can someone explain that to me? Doesn't seem to make much sense. Over regulation costs money and makes your businesses uncompetitive, there's a reason why the east is rolling in money while the west is facing going broke. Take a look at the E.U, it's on the point of collapse, it's a great example of what happens when you combine over regulation with socialist spend and waste policies. If everything is equally regulated why does that get rid of competition? That, and what exactly is being over regulated? In a global economy everything is not equally regulated.Okay so why does regulation in a certain country get rid of competition world wide? It puts the over regulated country at a disadvantage, it's not rocket science, if company A is wrapped up in red tape while company B isn't who is going to be in the better position?That goes back to my other question then. What do you consider over regulation? Regulation does not always mean their will be a profit cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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