stebo104 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I am wondering if anyone just by looking at my mod list what is causing me to CTD after leaving alt-start cell. Before anyone asks about everything being in reversed order, that is just how MO displays it in notepad. +FNIS Patches+Alternate Start - Live Another Life+Uncapper for Ordinator+More Interesting Loot for Skyrim+Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim+Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch+Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim+High Level Enemies 1.6 SIC Edition+High Level Enemies 1.6+Revenge of the Enemies Patches+Revenge Of the Enemies 2016+OBIS Loot+OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim+Mercy is for the Weak - (deadly dragons and elemental dragons patch)+Elemental Dragons+Deadly_Dragons+Skyrim Immersive Creatures+Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim+Combat Evolved+Recorder Customizer - CBBE+Recorder - Standalone Fully Voiced Follower+Seranaholic Customizer - CBBE+Seranaholic+Bijin Wives Customizer - CBBE+Bijin Wives+Bijin NPCs Customizer - CBBE+Bijin NPCs+Bijin Warmaidens Customizer - CBBE+Bijin Warmaidens+Immersive Armors for CBBE - TBBP - Bodyslide+Immersive Armors+Immersive Weapons+aMidianBorn Book of Silence+Killer Keos Skimpy CBBE+XP32 Maximum Skeleton+Realistic Ragdolls and Force+HDT Breast And Butt Physics - TBBP BBP Supported+HDT HighHeels System+HDT Physics Extensions+BodySlide and Outfit Studio+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2+Immersive Music-Falskaar - Realistic Needs and Diseases patch+Falskaar - Climates of Tamriel patch+Climates Of Tamriel-V+Footprints+Wet and Cold+Enhanced Blood Textures+Realistic Water Two - ENB Textures+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures+Static Mesh Improvement Mod+Ruins Clutter Improved+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade+Frostfall+Campfire+Better Falskaar and Wyrmstooth Map With Roads+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads+Falskaar+Glowing Ore Veins 300+RaceMenu+moreHUD+Extended UI+SkyUI+ApachiiSkyHair+Cutting Room Floor+Clothing and Clutter Fixes+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - Creature Pack+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS-Better Leveling 4.0 - Skyrim Vanilla+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper+Stable uGridsToLoad+skse scripts+Unofficial High Resolution Patch*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch*Unmanaged: Dragonborn*Unmanaged: HearthFires*Unmanaged: Dawnguard Load order (after running loot) Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espFalskaar.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmApachiiHairMales.esmCampfire.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmhdtHighHeel.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espFNIS.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espCutting Room Floor.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espSkyUI.espExtended UI.espAHZmoreHUD.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espWetandCold.espAOS.espRebirth Monster.espRealisticWaterTwo.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espOBIS.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espCombat Evolved.espImmersive Weapons.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espSMIM-Merged-All.espFrostfall.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espdD-Reduced Splatter Size.espdD-Reduced Wound Size.espWetandCold - Ashes.espFootprints.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.espClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.espAOS2_CoT3_1_patch.espDeadlyDragons.espAOS2_DD Patch.espAOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.espAOS2_WAF Patch.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.espRaceMenuMorphsCBBE.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espDHuntress.espFlameAtronachArmor.espFullBootForKKSA.espKKFur.espKKSDGWeightSliderFix.espKKSDrBWeightFix.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espBijin Warmaidens.espBijin NPCs.espBijin Wives.espSerana.espValerica.espRecorder Follower Base.espElemental_Dragons.espMercyisfortheWeak.espRebirth Monster - WAFR Patch.espHigh Level Enemies - SIC.espRebirth Monster - OBIS Patch.espHigh Level Enemies.espRebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.espRebirth Monster - Immersive Weapons Patch.espHigh Level Enemies - Dawnguard.espRebirth Monster - Clothing & Clutter Fixes Patch.espRebirth Monster - High Level Enemies Patch.espRebirth Monster - SIC Patch.espRebirth Monster - CRF Patch.espOBISDB.espHigh Level Enemies - Dragonborn.espRebirth Monster - OBISDB Patch.espHigh Level Enemies - Falskaar.espHigh Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.espBandit Patrols.espImmersive Music Temples.espImmersive Music Replacer.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espCCO17ObisPatch.espOrdinator - Perks of Skyrim.espApocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.espWintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espOBIS Loot.espMore Interesting Loot for Skyrim.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Edited November 2, 2016 by stebo104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymf331 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 try crash fixes by meh123. read the description page carefully as there's a little bit of assembly required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dievold Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) do you have enb installed? try setting the line patchspeedhackwithoutgraphic to true in your enblocal.inialso make sure that the mod order in the MO left panel resembles the one on the right panel Edited November 2, 2016 by Dievold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panurgy Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 What ymf331 said, but I'd also add: Use SKSE + a correctly setup SKSE ini file and ENBoost (if you're not already using ENB). Both ENB and SKSE will help with memory issues. You can use Memory Blocks Log to correctly size your SKSE.ini memory, but it will only help once you're able to play the game. Also, to add to Dievold's comment about ENB, use this setting in your enblocal.ini:ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false...and...VideoMemorySizeMb=<your system's settings, determined by Boris' tool, download is the little down-arrow graphic near page bottom>. If you ever download an ENB preset, delete the enblocal.ini, or modify it for your setup. That file is specific to your computer, and mod authors sometimes set it up flat out wrong, or right for their system but wrong for yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stebo104 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 Where in the enblocal.ini do i put this lines ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panurgy Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 OK, I was partially wrong about that. I use regular ENB, and ENBoost is a little different. [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ... VideoMemorySizeMb=<depends on your hardware>VideoMemorySizeMb either equals your actual VRAM, or a little more if you have a 64-bit system. Max setting is: RAM + VRAM - 2048. Boris says to reduce the amount for crashing, increase the amount towards the max if you've got a 64-bit system and your game is stable. So for example, 2GB of VRAM = 2048. If you're crashing you can try reducing that to 1536 and see if that reduces the crashing. Obviously you've got more leeway if you have more VRAM. Just remember to reset this if it doesn't help. Higher values = less stuttering, lower values = less crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stebo104 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 Well I know it's not a problem with my mods as i did almost a vanilla just usleep, skse and alt start mods up, and i still CTD after leaving alt start cell. Even after going though S.TE.P best I could. So here are my .ini files. skyrim.ini [General]sLanguage=ENGLISHfFlickeringLightDistance=8192uExterior Cell Buffer=36 [Display]fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048bAllowScreenshot=1 [Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass]bAllowCreateGrass=1bAllowLoadGrass=0fGrassFadeRange=10000iMaxGrassTypersPerTexure=5iMinGrassSize=40 [GeneralWarnings]SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive]sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsasResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsabInvalidateOlderFiles=0SInvalidationFile=ArchiveInvalidation.txt [Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 [Camera]fMouseWhellZoomSpeed=10 [Papyrus]fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0bEnableLogging=0bEnableTrace=0bLoadDebugInformation=0[Water]bReflectLODObjects=1bReflectLODLand=1bReflectSky=0bReflectLODTrees=1 skyrimprefs.ini [General]fBrightLightColorB=1.0000fBrightLightColorG=1.0000fBrightLightColorR=1.0000iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0 [imagespace]bDoDepthOfField=1iRadialBlurLevel=1 [Display]iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000fShadowDistance=4000iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048iShadowSplitCount=2iMaxAnisotropy=1fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000fGamma=1.0000fDecalLOD2=1500.0000fDecalLOD1=1000.0000fSpecularLODStartFade=1000fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000fLightLODStartFade=2500iTexMipMapMinimum=0iTexMipMapSkip=0iWaterMultiSamples=0iMultiSample=1iShadowMode=3bTreesReceiveShadows=1bDrawLandShadows=1bShadowsOnGrass=1bFull Screen=1iSize H=1080iSize W=1920fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1e+007fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=1e+007iScreenShotIndex=2bShadowMaskZPrepass=0bMainZPrepass=0iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=10iMaxDecalsPerFrame=30bFloatPointRenderTarget=1sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750"bFXAAEnabled=0iShadowMapResolution=2048fShadowBiasScale=0.25iShadowMaskQuarter=4iAdapter=0iPresentInterval=1 [Grass]b30GrassVS=0fGrassStartFadeDistance=5000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000 [MAIN]bGamepadEnable=1bCrosshairEnabled=1fHUDOpacity=1.000bSaveOnPause=1bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1bSaveOnRest=1 [GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1bShowQuestMarkers=1iDifficulty=2 [interface]bDialogueSubtitles=0bGeneralSubtitles=0 [Controls]fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125bAlwaysRunByDefault=1bInvertYValues=0bGamePadRumble=1bMouseAcceleration=1 [Particles]iMaxDesired=750 [saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000 [AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000fVal7=1.0000uID7=0fVal6=1.0000uID6=0fVal5=1.0000uID5=0fVal4=1.0000uID4=0fVal3=1.0000uID3=0fVal2=0.4000uID2=466532fVal1=1.0000uID1=554685fVal0=0.8000uID0=1007612 [Clouds]fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000 [TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance=40000fBlockMaximumDistance=150000fBlockLevel1Distance=40000fBlockLevel0Distance=25000fSplitDistanceMult=1.1bShowLODInEditor=0 [NavMesh]fObstacleAlpha=0.5000fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000fEdgeThickness=10.0000fPointSize=2.5000 [Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees=1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20 [Decals]uMaxDecals=250bDecals=1bSkinnedDecals=1uMaxSkinDecals=50uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40 [LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7.5fLODFadeOutMultItems=4.5fLODFadeOutMultActors=6 [Launcher]bEnableFileSelection=1bShowAllResolutions=1uLastAspectRatio=3 [blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange=1 [blurShader]bUseBlurShader=0 enblocal.ini [PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=trueProxyLibrary=[GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=falseUseDefferedRendering=trueIgnoreCreationKit=true[PERFORMANCE]SpeedHack=trueEnableOcclusionCulling=true[MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=falseReduceSystemMemoryUsage=falseDisableDriverMemoryManager=trueDisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=falseReservedMemorySizeMb=256VideoMemorySizeMb=512EnableCompression=falseAutodetectVideoMemorySize=false[THREADS]DataSyncMode=0PriorityMode=0EnableUnsafeFixes=false[MULTIHEAD]ForceVideoAdapterIndex=falseVideoAdapterIndex=0[WINDOW]ForceBorderless=falseForceBorderlessFullscreen=false[ENGINE]ForceAnisotropicFiltering=trueMaxAnisotropy=16ForceLodBias=falseLodBias=0.0EnableVSync=trueAddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=falseVSyncSkipNumFrames=0[LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=falseFPSLimit=60.0[iNPUT]KeyCombination=16KeyUseEffect=123KeyFPSLimit=36KeyShowFPS=106KeyScreenshot=44KeyEditor=13KeyFreeVRAM=115KeyBruteForce=66KeyDepthOfField=118[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]Enable=trueQuality=0DesiredFPS=20.0[ANTIALIASING]EnableEdgeAA=trueEnableSubPixelAA=falseEnableTemporalAA=false[FIX]FixGameBugs=falseFixParallaxBugs=trueFixParallaxTerrain=trueFixAliasedTextures=trueIgnoreInventory=trueFixTintGamma=falseRemoveBlur=falseFixSubSurfaceScattering=trueFixSkyReflection=trueFixCursorVisibility=trueFixLag=false[LONGEXPOSURE]EnableLongExposureMode=falseTime=1.0BlendMax=0.0 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ymf331 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 it's not just your card's vram that you take into account, but also your system memory. there's a program on the enb download page that tells you what you need to put but in most cases unless you're playing on a potato it's gonna' be 4064, even with an old video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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