csgators Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 or so many people claim. Just what game am I missing then? Please do not mention another TES game. I have played them and Skyrim is better by any modern standard. I am actually just starting a game of Daggerfall on Dos-box but I am talking about a modern game here. My all time favorites are Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment but they are way to dated to consider at this point. I am talking about a game released in the last 2 or 3 years that even comes close to Skyrim. PC only please. I do not own a console. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubblz Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 or so many people claim. Just what game am I missing then? Please do not mention another TES game. I have played them and Skyrim is better by any modern standard. I am actually just starting a game of Daggerfall on Dos-box but I am talking about a modern game here. My all time favorites are Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment but they are way to dated to consider at this point. I am talking about a game released in the last 2 or 3 years that even comes close to Skyrim. PC only please. I do not own a console. What am I missing? A bad attitude and obnoxious sense of entitlement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvinkun Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Skyrim is one of those cases... every single part of it sucks, but when they are put together, it's pretty epic for no apparent reason. That is if you can live with large number of bugs and technical difficulties. But we all knew they will be there. I'm sure someone will like to hit me with a brick again, but there are no games like Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale and Planetscape anymore. Everything went to hell a bit. Or actually, everything improved, if you are "cool person" and hate reading, story and such. If you want to keep close, you want to aim for Neverwinter series. Perhaps Dragon Age: Origins (Note, Dragon Age 1, not DA 2, that's just not "it"). Edited December 21, 2011 by elvinkun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velyanthe Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) I think you're missing the disregard of nonlinear RPGs, or the dislike in general of RPGs. Or, you're missing the overly keen eye with a giant blindspot; some people see only the faults and miss the good stuff. I can understand people not liking Skyrim because it's not their cup of tea, but the flaming is ridiculous. I do not care who you are, it is a very well-made game and follows well in the other games' footsteps. I'm considering breaking out Morrowind again to see which of the two I prefer, they're incredibly immersive. Elvinkun, since Neverwinter Nights, TES has been the only series I have found with such wonderful storylines. Stories feel undervalued. Edited December 21, 2011 by Velyanthe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalibanX Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I agree. The most modded out dungeon from Oblivion looks like uninspired crap next to any vanilla Skyrim dungeon. It's not all about resolution people. There's something called "design". Skyrim's dungeons have WAY more visual detail and character built into them than anything from Oblivion or Fallout. Skyrim (despite it's flaws) is a work of art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csgators Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 Skyrim is one of those cases... every single part of it sucks, but when they are put together, it's pretty epic for no apparent reason. That is if you can live with large number of bugs and technical difficulties. But we all knew they will be there. I'm sure someone will like to hit me with a brick again, but there are no games like Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale and Planetscape anymore. Everything went to hell a bit. Or actually, everything improved, if you are "cool person" and hate reading, story and such. If you want to keep close, you want to aim for Neverwinter series. Perhaps Dragon Age: Origins (Note, Dragon Age 1, not DA 2, that's just not "it"). I bought DA:O and played it through 3 times with different options. Way to linear and after my disappointment and what I read didn't bother with DA:2. I already have way more hours into Skyrim. It's not that Skyrim is perfect it's just that nothing has even come close since....Oblivion. (OK..I loved Fallout 3 too but not NV.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csgators Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 I agree. The most modded out dungeon from Oblivion looks like uninspired crap next to any vanilla Skyrim dungeon. It's not all about resolution people. There's something called "design". Skyrim's dungeons have WAY more visual detail and character built into them than anything from Oblivion or Fallout. Skyrim (despite it's flaws) is a work of art. Totally agree about the "dungeon" design. Still see some generic designs (forts mostly) but not even close to the levels seen before in other games by many developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvinkun Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) I bought DA:O and played it through 3 times with different options. Way to linear and after my disappointment and what I read didn't bother with DA:2. I already have way more hours into Skyrim. It's not that Skyrim is perfect it's just that nothing has even come close since....Oblivion. (OK..I loved Fallout 3 too but not NV.)Well, what I can recommend is The Last Remnant, but don't even bother trying it if you don't like turn-based JRPG, then the Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2 (Because Faerun is Faerun) and prolly KOTORs (not the MMO). It's all rather old, but unless you're a graphic freak, you won't really mind it I believe. All those have nice stories and gameplay.That's still comming from similar-to-BG tho. Elvinkun, since Neverwinter Nights, TES has been the only series I have found with such wonderful storylines. Stories feel undervalued.Well, that sounds a bit weird to me, because while I love TES as a whole, I never really considered story to be it's strongest sides. Well, surely not on Oblivion. Morrowind, perhaps, Skyrim... The MQ is...decent, even if predictable. Edited December 21, 2011 by elvinkun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macole Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I would offer you two games; The Witcher Enhanced Edition and Dragon Age - Origins. Both presented themselves as action/adventure games with limited RPG elements and they delivered the goods. Skyrim on the other hand was hyped as a heavy RPG game in the TES tradition and it failed in that respect. Whereas all three games look great and the stories are good that's were similarities end. Both Witcher Enhanced Edition and Dragon Age - Origins came out of the box in good playable condition. Both had wonderful intuitive GUIs. Skyrim on the other hand had a mandatory Day-1 patch and a second patch a few days later broke the game for many. Plus Skyrim's PC interface is a horrid example of how not to build a KB/Mouse interface. The comparisons can go on and on but whether or not you are willing to look through the fog and see the truth that Skyrim looks great but falls short on substance really depends on how deeply you bought into Bethesda's hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangarrett99 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Skyrim is great! Where else could you get a game where guards tell you to take an arrow to the knee? :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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