Just when you think it's working...(CTD on load)

[Varichi]

I see. I figured it would be for that reason.

 

I mean, I can certainly name it that in the future. Or even rename/rebuild it now. I wish there were a way for me to pinpoint the worldspace ymf was referring to (I don't even know how he figured that out just by looking at it, need to learn how to do that). That would help immensely.

[Varichi]

Sorry to double post, but is there a good place to learn about how to decipher the location data from the crash log? Or any data at all?

[Kroekr]

You can find the worldspace by either using the CK (if you are already bald there are no repercussions with using it) or you can use http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2251/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D2251%26preview%3D&pUp=1 which would be faster and easier. I would also like to know where they got that info from. Cell -35,-9 is one row east and 4 rows south of Dushnikh Yal (orc stronghold SE of Markarth).

[Varichi]

ymf apparently got the info from the crashlog I posted earlier.

 

I have been playing around with the game, and I loaded a save prior to me entering the Tomb of Ysgramor. It worked perfectly, and I logged about ten more hours into it. However, I was able to discover that I get the same error when trying to load a save after going to Solstheim.

 

The game does not crash unless I load a save made on Solstheim or after having been back to Solstheim (I have completed Dragonborn already, this is the first I've seen of this issue). I played on Solstheim without issue, ran around to see if anything was amiss, and found nothing wrong. Anticipating that Solstheim was the source of the error, I coc'd to the Riverwood Trader and saved. I then exited, tried to load a save on the island, and got a crash. Tried afterward to load the Riverwood Trader save, and it crashed again.

 

It is exactly the same error that I got earlier after leaving Ysgramor's Tomb. If there is a corruption or error in the worldspace, it seems like Solstheim or Dragonborn would be the source, right?

 

EDIT: Here is a repost of the original crash log I put up on page 1.

 

 

2016_11_23_13-46-19 - 6DC2B9: V(1); EAX(58); EBX(0); ECX(0); EDX(3); ESI(2DBF4D68); EDI(18F760); EBP(2DBF4E64); ESP(18F65C); STACK(670152 67BE82 D6D26F 737365 10076BC);

Not so useful info (don't post unless asked):

STACK_FULL(0 2DBF4D68 4612FF98 131BE218 670152 0 2DBF4D68 0 0 3E 8000000 42700000 3 1E733E0 10CF82C 2DBF4D68 0 18F760 0 18F6D8 0 0 0 1275FE8 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 67BE82 18F760 131BE218 35B4DC70 18FA60 0 467B3C50 19485 2DBF4D68 0 0 8B040000 80000000 467B3C50 1DD2D458 569FF01 80000002 2 0 0 0 0 0 1E733E0 0 0 0 107B614 DED0008 1E73864 34A59 217 202 8B040000 DD 217 2DBF4D68 8000000 0 4A410000 1B9E9C4 1C2DF94 25671 2F5F3 6ECF8 D6D26F 9 E 5 34041 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 569FF30 18F8D8 0 0 0 1243758 56901FC 0 5690150 5690000 0 0 0 1243758 6F 0 1 65766153 33393320 202D2033 206C6F53 69766E49 73757463 69572020 7473646E 4D206461 726F6E61 33322020 37352E32 2E36352E 737365 56F1B28 0 4000004 0 56F1BA8 56F2F90 56910E0 20 5690000 80000 56F1B28 18F990 775B3001 5690138 775B2FDD C0 56911B8 C0 56911B8 56911B8 C0 56911B8 18F904 6B947096 6B94709E 18F910 6B947096 6B94709E C79E2000 0 C0 6B9908C0 0 6B9908C0 C0 18F90C 6B9470D2 56911C4 18F94C 6B941FE8 3 6B941FDF C79E205C 1 6B981A80 0 18F958 1 18F91C AC1173D0 18F9A4 696E6144 2D206C65 2F313120 322F3332 20363130 343A3331 31313A36 5845202C 65562045 6F697372 31203A6E 332E392E 2C302E32 76615320 65562065 6F697372 2E39206E 6B003437 C79E20A4 56BD8C8 56BD8C8 56BE0F0 0 18F988 18FCDC 18FCDC 6B93CF60 AC1171C0 FFFFFFFE 6B939F07 6B936883 6B981A80 18F9C8 6B936517 18F9DC 6B9365F4 6B98B768 0 10076BC 18FA34 6B930591 5 6B9676BC 18F9F8 6B931597 6B9676BC 131BE218 35B4DC70 0 6B93371B FFFFFFFF 3 6B9628A8 0 56BE0F0 56BD8C8 6B9628A8 2 33 35B4DC70 131BE218 18FA60 6B92656C 0 2 6B92657D 35B4DC70 0 1345E2B0 35B4DC70 0);

 

 

Here is the crash log from the most recent crash:

 

 

2016_11_30_21-15-20 - 6DC2B9: V(1); EAX(58); EBX(0); ECX(0); EDX(3); ESI(2DB988A0); EDI(18F760); EBP(2DB9899C); ESP(18F65C); STACK(670152 67BE82 D51CA8 100AE60 1010000 10076BC);

Not so useful info (don't post unless asked):

STACK_FULL(0 2DB988A0 4604A830 13149788 670152 0 2DB988A0 0 0 3E 8000000 42700000 3 22033E0 10CF82C 2DB988A0 0 18F760 0 18F6D8 0 0 0 1275FE8 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 67BE82 18F760 13149788 35B0B1C8 18FA60 0 85897268 19BF9 2DB988A0 0 80000002 8C040000 80000002 85897268 5D278D60 73FAC01 80000002 2 0 0 0 0 0 22033E0 0 0 0 107B614 DAE0008 2203864 353BC 217 202 8C040000 DD 217 2DB988A0 8000000 8000000 4A410000 1B8CE9A 1C1DCAA 25683 2F4BA 6EF4B D51CA8 9 E 5 34450 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 31 73FB5F8 0 0 0 1243758 100AE60 0 48 1010000 0 0 0 1243758 3A0272FF 0 2436F 65766153 38393320 202D2031 206C6F53 69766E49 73757463 69522020 77726576 20646F6F 64617254 20207265 2E353332 302E3231 73652E33 73F0073 0 2000002 FD399BB0 73FA210 73FA820 3000C4 10 300000 20000 73FA190 18F990 775B3001 300138 775B2FDD C0 3011B8 C0 3011B8 3011B8 C0 3011B8 18F904 6BCA7096 6BCA709E 18F910 6BCA7096 6BCA709E FD399A0C 0 C0 6BCF08C0 0 6BCF08C0 C0 18F90C 6BCA70D2 3011C4 18F94C 6BCA1FE8 3 6BCA1FDF FD399A50 1 6BCE1A80 0 18F958 1 18F91C 96ECC9DC 18F9A4 696E6144 2D206C65 2F313120 322F3033 20363130 313A3132 36313A35 5845202C 65562045 6F697372 31203A6E 332E392E 2C302E32 76615320 65562065 6F697372 2E39206E 6B003437 FD399AA8 73BD8C8 73BD8C8 73BE0F0 0 18F988 18FCDC 18FCDC 6BC9CF60 96ECCBCC FFFFFFFE 6BC99F07 6BC96883 6BCE1A80 18F9C8 6BC96517 18F9DC 6BC965F4 6BCEB768 0 10076BC 18FA34 6BC90591 5 6BCC76BC 18F9F8 6BC91597 6BCC76BC 13149788 35B0B1C8 0 6BC9371B FFFFFFFF 3 6BCC28A8 0 73BE0F0 73BD8C8 6BCC28A8 2 35 35B0B1C8 13149788 18FA60 6BC8656C 0 2 6BC8657D 35B0B1C8 0 199F5A48 35B0B1C8 0);

 

[Kroekr]

For curiosity's sake, what mod is 18 in your load order? And I still don't see where those coordinates came from, lol.

[Varichi]

Neither do I, unfortunately. :sad:

 

The 18th mod is Dustbound (a follower mod), but the file with the index of 18 is Tamriel Reloaded. I have been using it forever and it has never given me any trouble at all, I'm not convinced it is the issue.

 

Here's another copy of the load order.

 

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Falskaar.esm

7 7 Wyrmstooth.esp

8 8 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

9 9 Nock2Tip.esm

10 a Campfire.esm

11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

12 c JSwords.esm

13 d ApachiiHair.esm

14 e ApachiiHairFemales.esm

15 f EFFCore.esm

16 10 moonpath.esm

17 11 Omegared99-Compilation.esm

18 12 Dustbound.esm

19 13 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm

20 14 OblivionHairPackAIO.esm

21 15 Obl-VB hair.esm

22 16 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

23 17 Differently Ebony.esp

24 18 Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp

25 19 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

26 1a EquipmentStateCopy&Rename.esp

27 1b Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp

28 1c Original Opening Scene.esp

29 1d SC_hairs.esp

30 1e SkyUI.esp

31 1f VioLens.esp

32 20 TR HD no grass no trees.esp

33 21 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

34 22 immersive roads.esp

35 23 3DNPC.esp

36 24 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

37 25 Merge3-Weapons, Armor.esp

38 26 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

39 27 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

40 28 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

41 29 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

42 2a CASM.esp

43 2b WetandCold.esp

44 2c WetandCold - Ashes.esp

45 2d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

46 2e Cleric Armours - Credo.esp

47 2f Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp

48 30 Thanatos Dragonx.esp

49 31 ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

50 32 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

51 33 Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp

52 34 Immersive Jewelry.esp

53 35 SoS - Combined.esp

54 36 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

55 37 WhitePhialReplacer.esp

56 38 Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp

57 39 WondersofWeather.esp

58 3a ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

59 3b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

60 3c Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

61 3d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

62 3e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

63 3f Supreme Fog - CoT.esp

64 40 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp

65 41 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

66 42 Beasts of Tamriel.esp

67 43 Coins of Tamriel V3 Legendary Edition.esp

68 44 ELFXEnhancer.esp

69 45 RealShelter.esp

70 46 Helgen Reborn.esp

71 47 Merge2.esp

72 48 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp

73 49 NPCs Protected and Uncapped.esp

74 4a RBB - New Lands Merge.esp

75 4b Merge7b.esp

76 4c OpulentThievesGuild.esp

77 4d RevampedExteriorFog.esp

78 4e ENB Snow FX.esp

79 4f Coins of Tamriel V3 Legendary Edition - Wyrmstooth patch.esp

80 50 Elemental Destruction.esp

81 51 FireAndIceOverhaul.esp

82 52 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

83 53 TrueStorms.esp

84 54 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp

85 55 FNIS.esp

86 56 Painkiller's_Hrothmund's_Axe.esp

87 57 AnnaNPCs.esp

88 58 Birdsofskyrim.esp

89 59 Merge8d.esp

90 5a Immersive Weapons.esp

91 5b WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

92 5c Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

93 5d Unique Unique.esp

94 5e Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

95 5f Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

96 60 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

97 61 Merge6 - Misc.esp

98 62 Unique Places.esp

99 63 SkyHavenTemple'sGlory1.3.esp

100 64 Holidays.esp

101 65 BetterDGEntrance.esp

102 66 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp

103 67 AnnaNPCs-AndunielsMeadery.esp

104 68 Inconsequential NPCs.esp

105 69 Atvir.esp

106 6a Merge4-Weapons, Armors.esp

107 6b SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp

108 6c Glass Variants.esp

109 6d Inigo.esp

110 6e Merge9b.esp

111 6f The Honored Dead.esp

112 70 Cloaks.esp

113 71 ExtraBlades.esp

114 72 LC_immersiveLoot.esp

115 73 MergeSet2.esp

116 74 UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

117 75 NorthernCardinal.esp

118 76 Merged Treasures.esp

119 77 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

120 78 TCOSS.esp

121 79 Immersive Patrols II.esp

122 7a SL99Exchanger.esp

123 7b SL99Exchanger_Patch_Immersive Jewelry.esp

124 7c CerwidenCompanion.esp

125 7d ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp

126 7e Unique Uniques.esp

127 7f 1nivWICCloaks.esp

128 80 EFFDialogue.esp

129 81 ogDiverseDragons2.esp

130 82 Animallica.esp

131 83 Better Vampires.esp

132 84 AgentOfRighteousMight.esp

133 85 Nock2Tip.esp

134 86 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

135 87 Beautiful Whiterun.esp

136 88 The Huntsman.esp

137 89 Armored Circlets.esp

138 8a HothFollower.esp

139 8b SFO - Dragonborn.esp

140 8c Merge5 - Experimental1.esp

141 8d Darrow.esp

142 8e WheelsOfLull.esp

143 8f MzarkWonders.esp

144 90 Thorald GreyMane.esp

145 91 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

146 92 Throthgar Follower.esp

147 93 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

148 94 AK- Buyable Paintings and Pictures.esp

149 95 FishingInSkyrim.esp

150 96 Immersive Music Temples.esp

151 97 Immersive Music.esp

152 98 ESFAela.esp

153 99 JoOsSkyrimKnightlyArmory.esp

154 9a Nimra's Goat.esp

155 9b My Home Is Your Home.esp

156 9c Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

157 9d RealisticWhiterun.esp

158 9e Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

159 9f ImprovedFishBASIC.esp

160 a0 Nithhogg Dragon.esp

161 a1 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

162 a2 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

163 a3 TorchArrow-Dawnguard.esp

164 a4 RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp

165 a5 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

166 a6 SoS - Patches.esp

167 a7 AOS.esp

168 a8 RealisticWaterTwoPatches.esp

169 a9 Darkend.esp

170 aa Odvar.esp

171 ab Apocalypse - Dragonborn Staff Crafting.esp

172 ac Painting In Skyrim.esp

173 ad Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

174 ae VL No AoE Drain.esp

175 af 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

176 b0 Coins of Tamriel V3 Legendary Edition - Falskaar patch.esp

177 b1 Beards.esp

178 b2 RaceMenu.esp

179 b3 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

180 b4 RaceMenuOverlays.esp

181 b5 Immersive Dragon Sounds.esp

182 b6 KJ Lore Tattoos 4K.esp

183 b7 KJ Tattoos 4K.esp

184 b8 Elisif Makeover.esp

185 b9 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp

186 ba BHWarPaints.esp

187 bb TheCoenaculiMALE.esp

188 bc KS Hairdo's.esp

189 bd Realistic HD Beverages.esp

190 be Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp

191 bf Merge10e.esp

192 c0 AOS Patches.esp

193 c1 Thunderchild - Wyrmstooth Compatibility Patch.esp

194 c2 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp

195 c3 Requiem.esp

196 c4 Requiem - Legendary Bugsmasher Edition.esp

197 c5 Requiem Patches 01-26-16.esp

198 c6 Requiem - Blessings Ignore Crime.esp

199 c7 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

200 c8 Rebirth Monster.esp

201 c9 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

202 ca MoonAndStar_Requiem_compat.esp

203 cb COR-CraftingOverhaulReqtified.esp

204 cc Civil War Overhaul.esp

205 cd Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp

206 ce Animallica - Real Wildlife Loot.esp

207 cf moonpath_questdata.esp

208 d0 UIExtensions.esp

209 d1 ExtraBlades-EFF.esp

210 d2 Bijin Wives, WMs, NPCs, Followers, Females.esp

211 d3 FollowerCompatibility.esp

212 d4 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

213 d5 AnnaNPCs-AlternativeFaces.esp

214 d6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

215 d7 MergedPatch.esp

216 d8 RSPatch.esp

217 d9 ReqtificatorVault.esp

218 da Requiem for the Indifferent.esp

 

 

[Kroekr]

Not that I know anything, you might try reinstalling Tamriel Reloaded to see if you have a messed up texture file.

[Varichi]

I'm looking through my list with TESVEdit, trying to at least see if I can get anything from those numbers. I'm just very curious as to how ymf discerned that those particular coordinates were troublesome.

 

I'm hesitant to reinstall TR, because I use some texture mods on top of it and don't want to overwrite them accidentally. If it were a corrupt texture, I would think that the game would have this issue all the time, not just after I go to Solstheim or advance the Companions quest.

[Kroekr]

I think it would not load those textures until you reached that grid area or got close to it. You could load TR and the other texture mods, apply filter then see which one is messing with that cell.

[Varichi]

I've been trying to figure out what could be editing that cell with TES5Edit for what seems like forever. Still can't find that particular cell anywhere. Any tips on how to pinpoint it?