This is morally disgusting...

[Fatalmasterpiece]

I'm not particularly against hunting or anything, but it's interesting to see the responses when a counter view is given. However personally I think the excuse of animal control as a proponent of hunting is weak. There are obviously too many humans in this world, as nature usually sorts out animal population it's self.

 

As for everyone running around with guns, you should come over here to Detroit some time, it's pretty much the norm.

 

In my personal opinion, we live in a world where some people have 18+ kids. This is EXACTLY why the world is overpopulated and the number of poor are increasing (spreading the wealth is creating a thin line). China has the right idea, if each individual has 1 living child, then the world would be at a -1 total. Why a -1 total? Well if a male and a female have 1 child, and they both die, that leaves the world with 1 less human total. I would say have 2 at the most, but anything more is contributing to overpopulation.

 

You will find, enforcing something like that in the western world will go over about as well as some of the ideas in practice during 1940s Germany,

[dazzerfong]

@ Vagrant0:

 

In addition to castration, you can affect reproductive successes, kinda like the genophage in ME(2).

 

As opposed to just killing a portion of the population each year, usually turning that animal into some form of food?

 

Sorry, but unless you live off the land (having a computer instantly voids that), you're hunting merely for the ridicule and excitement, not for food. You're only eating the food only to mask away the fact that you unnecessarily hunted an animal.

 

Hunting is not humane: unless you absolutely have to, there's not a single shred of humanity behind it. I highly doubt every hunter out there gets a clean kill, whereas in slaughterhouses, it's a simple decapitation. Especially for the African Big Five: I highly doubt those species are even too plentiful to control their population via hunting.

 

And as far as sterilization practices go, rendering female animals sterile tends to have a far more significant effect on the overall population since you are directly limiting the number of potential births, rather than just the number of potential fathers.

 

Of course it has a more significant effect: that's why you don't just neuter every 2nd rabbit or so.

 

You will find, enforcing something like that in the western world will go over about as well as some of the ideas in practice during 1940s Germany,

 

Wrong: Germany in the 1920's/30's encouraged families to have bigger families in preparation for WWII. Enforcing something is out of necessity, not cruelty: go have a visit to China, then come back.

Edited January 2, 2012 by dazzerfong

[stabbykitteh]

http://www.causes.com/posts/745611

 

This is a game app that is about dog fighting. You can probably find it on Michael Vicks phone. Jokes aside the fact someone took the time to make a game based entirely on this is sick, you might as well make a game called "child abuse" and bloody up your very own virtual child with a handy set of designed tools to help you. This isn't like the infamous child killing mods, these developers are actually promoting torture to the masses. This is no RPG, it's training.

 

Emails are on there, feel free to let them know how you feel.

 

 

Not to derail the hunting discussion :biggrin: But to respond to the OP: My sis brought this app to my attention the other day and I had some probably nonsensical thoughts about it and game censorship in general...

 

Some of the protests against this "game" call for it to be banned and while I think this app is abhorrent and the people who made and download it aren't people I'd probably want to know, the idea of banning it makes me uncomfortable. As gamers we are confronted on a daily basis with the idea that playing violent video games causes real violence. The last example I can think of is the attack in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik. It was immediately brought up that he played Modern Warfare, and while this had nothing to do with his actions, a certain faction within our societies that would love to ban or tightly control content in games jumped right on that detail. Despite a number of studies that show that playing violent games don't cause violence. Neither does playing games with gay content have the potential to 'turn' one gay, but there are people who would love to see Skyrim and most recent Bioware games banned just for that reason.

 

Guess my rambling point is, that if we are going to defend games like Skyrim, where we can go around slitting NPC's throats indiscriminately (yes, I know not everyone does that but you can) because we know that it's just a game and we aren't going to go out and try it IRL, don't we kind of have to, if not defend this (I'm really not trying to do that - it's awful) realize that it isn't going to cause any actions that wouldn't have happened anyway? Maybe give the weirdos who want to play it the benefit of the doubt and think maybe they understand that it's just pixels? However disgusting it may be...

 

(If I hadn't made it perfectly clear, I think the game is awful. As a gamer, it's embarrassing, not what I want people to think of when they think of gaming... Just making a free speech, anti censorship argument. Feel free to tell me I'm an idiot :thumbsup: )

 

Done rambling. Back to hunting :whistling:

[Korodic]

It's hard to defend my stance on this app without being self-contracting to my own beliefs. But I will say this.

 

Kill a child: 25-life.

torture and abuse pets, maybe even kill them: pay a fine or small jail time.

 

People are more likely to do #2 to get their sick passions out, and this game endorses something which has minimal protection.

 

I'm highly against having animal abuse being the objective of the game in a serious way. While I enjoy dead puppy jokes, I never want to emulate it.

[hoofhearted4]

Hunting is not humane

 

hunting for sport just to fire your brand new gun or to put an animal head on your wall. i agree, there is no reason for it....hunting for food. whats the big deal?

[SimpleGlitch]

looking at the issue of hunting objectively, hunting makes more sense then sterilization. Hunting actually generates money, depending on how it is regulated in your area. sterilization on the other hand costs money and time. Sterilization surgically will take far too long and by the time you sterilizer x number of animals there will be many more to take its place. On the other hand a genetic answer to sterilization can easily have are reaching consequences that can cause more harm than good. On top of that, nether of these methods solve other problems of overpopulation such as CWD.

 

Also, eating meat that you hunted for is no different that meat you buy at the store (except that it might be healthier, having no artificial hormones that are often given to livestock). I say there is no difference because, meat isn't even necessary in our diet, so unless your a vegetarian, you can't really argue against someone hunting, and using that animal for food.

[frakle]

Actually, that game looked pretty fun.

[SmokeBotKid]

i too laughed at the pokimon reply but i need to ask (dont have or know the app) does it use videos of recent dog fights? or its just a game?