natula123 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I would like to know why people are so uptight about it. What could it do that is bad? Isnt it basically more recognition for modders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzerfong Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Many are fearing that the Steam Workshop would upload user's mods without permission, and potentially redistributing them for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werne Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 What could it do that is bad?They could start selling mods, which is not good, and even if the workshop is a good thing, I'm staying the hell away from there cause it's steam and because the nexus is much larger and better community. Isnt it basically more recognition for modders?I don't think so, everyone knows that if you want mods there's nexus. By the way, why are people making a million threads about this when one is enough :facepalm:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam324 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I don't think it's bad; it would be more convenient for installing mods and I'm not a fan of the Nexus download caps, so if Steam Workshop catches on with modders it would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iv121 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Im pretty sure it won't catch, not when you have such as strong base like the nexus community. Not only this, but nexus also offered a special mod manager. You'll get it's pros when you'll have allot of mods together, couse when you will have them their load order will be important, and the nexus manager allows you to change the load order. additionally it comes with additionaluseful tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayboTGW Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) I too wil be staying away from the Steam Workshop only because everytime I view just steam's forums for Skyim I want to put a bullet in my head... Here at the Nexus people and the modders are way more helpful with a whole lot less bashing and flaming I fear that the way people flame on Steam's forums would soon be pointed towards the modders... at least here the admins nips any flaming or harrassment aim toward all the modders right in the bud.. Edited December 30, 2011 by ClayboTGW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natula123 Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Thanks Guys I'll will just stay with my sexy babe "The Nexus" :D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runicNomad Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 why is steam workshop bad.... it really isn't since it is not created or live yet.however...so far we have a game that forced us to use a online gaming demographics tool called steam... yes it has some functions for people but truly it was conceived steam that is to hook more people to buying games and tracking those habits. the other things it has done is secondary. so here we got steams workshop and well it already has changed the scene. the nexus had some serious and maybe ongoing discussions about modders making money and creating a way for that to happen. maybe its inevitable...however again the trend here with steam is things are forced. the ck will force us to use steam to load it which maybe then will have embedded hook which you can upload mods. so that makes it easier right to use it... well again steam is going to monitor what mods are uploaded and then will tailor ads for games and other pop ups in their service based on them. so a modder will make some cool mods upload them get a few cents maybe or get nothing and ultimately support a for profit company. hence where the issue comes from.1. steam has been forced on us2. steam is a for profit company which utilizes free traffic to garner profit models based on demographics. in a way theft without compensation. I think people often miss the large picture and the precedent set. less freedom less choices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltucu Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I had a realization. Now, mods are PC only. It looks pretty clear that Steam Workshop is one step in the direction of bringing mods to consoles. If you see a lot of requests for completely crazy mods when every user that asks such nonsense is a PC user, IMAGINE the crazy stuff is going to pop up when ppl completely devoid of any knowledge about common software have access to such things as mods, and god forbid, start to make requests about new mods! Threads like this could happen anytime: "REQ Halo mod? - Could someone make me a halo mod? I SO want to visit Reach in skyrim, and PWN some aliens with lazer gunz!1!!1!" nOOOOOoooooOOoo! Edited December 31, 2011 by eltucu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopi Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Let see the Steam Workshop from various points of view,first of all the name, Workshop, that could means that all the mods available on it have been created for it.That point is wrong and can be exploited by Steam to make profit (almost ads) over the enormous TES modders community. Nowhere has been mentionned the fact that steam want to give any financial support or compensation to the TES modder. And i don't think that any Steam staff members would create any mod by hiself. By uploading mods, they could progressivly create a monopole climat, i mean, make the modder name fall into "oblivion", minimizing the work that has been made. Breaking some aspects of the modders community, like beeing able to create little teams to make mods.A nasty effect of that evolution could be to see overtime, only big teams could have a public impact and recognition, inducing by itself the monetization processus for bigs, and skill exploitation for the littles (like me). I think that some of the actual modders have already understand that point. Behind a easy interface, uploading some chosen mods, or promoting by an obsure valor ladder, it would be almost certain that lot of mods and modders will stay in the shadow. the Bethesda policy about mod property probably make much of us happy to take advantage of some others work, but in a commercial context, all that could turn bad and another time, the bigs and promoted by steam could take the work and profit from the others. Steam never do anything for the community, they act for profit, as a normal commercial agency. I don't think that in anyway they can make anything for us, only for Bethesda (in the better case) and above else, for themselves. As some of the writers of that topic say, it is not actually active, so we better don't make a bad opinion of it. At the beginning, nothing will change, but with months and years, Steam probably just will have a realy nasty impact on the free mods community. Wonder about it, and support Steam if you want, but keep in mind that they just want to be an intermediary between creator and players, simply as they have been define and act since the Steam creation.Finaly less intermediary has always seemed better communication and creation freedom. Make your choice ! Edit: A simple various game community comparison: Nexus: Free to us for modders and users, make profite by some ads support and services. Created by the fan community for itself.Steam: Originaly game studio, Steam was created to sell the proper company games. They progressivly sell others studios games. They create a community arround the commercial activity.Bethesda: Game studio, growing bigger and strongher, since the creation, has always manage a special place for the fans. Since now morowind, offer to the community one of the greatest creation tools of the early video game story. Edited January 1, 2012 by Boopi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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