Lachdonin Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I don't know you guys, but I'm never going to use Steam Workshop - ever.Because it's clear as sun that it's Steam that is slowing down everything, since Bethesda said CK would be the same tool they used to create the game. Now, the game is buggy and everything, so maybe they thought giving it a little fix wouldn't be half bad. But anyway, they wouldn't start from zero, like they're doing now with the Workshop. And I will never understand why they're doing this, since there's no need to link Skyrim and Steam even more tightly. First, if you don't understand WHY they used steam, you haven't been following things very closely. Second, making blanket statements like "I'll never use such-and-such" is childish and pointless. If Steamworkshop ends up being infinately more user friendly, reliable and fast as the Nexus, are you really going to settle for the inferior system? Don't make judgements of a system before its released, because as bad as it is to hype something up, its just as bad to crap all over it before you even know what it does. Finally, its 2 months. Thats not a crippling long time. Look at Dead Island, its been out for almost 4 and its STILL broken. And theres no editor comming. Bethesda isn't a single focus company, they can't devote all their resources to the Construction Set just to make it release quicker (they'd probably create a 'too many cooks' situation anyway). Chill out, do some mod planning, and develop some patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PShepa Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I second the "take a chill pill advice". I feel for those folks with broken games. I hope a fix will be out quickly for them. On the other hand, it utterly amazes me just what has happened in the last two months since the release. How long has it been since the acknowledgement of the 1000th mod, already. I, shamely, have to admit that I've clocked over 400 hours according to Steam. Admittedly, the graphics can be tweeked. For now that's cool. In the meantime, I can count on using my imagination. In the long run, that is what counts; our imaginations. In all fairness, this is a good game with some problems. Problems that can be fixed, though. In the long run, it is us who will make this game come alive. It was us who made a record as most attendees on line at the same time in Steam for Skyrim. It will be us who will mole this game and give it a life with a personality of its own. What we can ask of Bethesda, is a solid core from which to build on and a solid set of tools with which to build. Hope they hear. imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordPerfect Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Finally, its 2 months. Thats not a crippling long time. Look at Dead Island, its been out for almost 4 and its STILL broken. And theres no editor comming. Bethesda isn't a single focus company, they can't devote all their resources to the Construction Set just to make it release quicker (they'd probably create a 'too many cooks' situation anyway). Chill out, do some mod planning, and develop some patience. The creation kit was a selling point of the game, one they went to great lengths to advertise and claim it would be released alongside the game. It is not gratis that we should be happy to get. We paid for it. What relevance does the state of some other title have to this situation? "Look, they paid for a product and didn't get what they were sold so don't complain"? Rubbish. Money changed hands and the product was not as advertised. This is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElijahHouck Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Finally, its 2 months. Thats not a crippling long time. Look at Dead Island, its been out for almost 4 and its STILL broken. And theres no editor comming. Bethesda isn't a single focus company, they can't devote all their resources to the Construction Set just to make it release quicker (they'd probably create a 'too many cooks' situation anyway). Chill out, do some mod planning, and develop some patience. The creation kit was a selling point of the game, one they went to great lengths to advertise and claim it would be released alongside the game. It is not gratis that we should be happy to get. We paid for it. What relevance does the state of some other title have to this situation? "Look, they paid for a product and didn't get what they were sold so don't complain"? Rubbish. Money changed hands and the product was not as advertised. This is unacceptable. Great lengths to advertise it's day-one release? I don't remember that at all. What I remember being said is that they were HOPING for a day one release or at least close to it. If you look at Fallout 3, for example, the GECK came out almost three months after the release of the game. I don't remember when the TESCS came out, but still, give them some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkjoldBjorn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Nope i would'nt say it's rubbish, G.E.C.K and CS have always been a few months after release. Why even people bother to get worked up about this is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Finally, its 2 months. Thats not a crippling long time. Look at Dead Island, its been out for almost 4 and its STILL broken. And theres no editor comming. Bethesda isn't a single focus company, they can't devote all their resources to the Construction Set just to make it release quicker (they'd probably create a 'too many cooks' situation anyway). Chill out, do some mod planning, and develop some patience. The creation kit was a selling point of the game, one they went to great lengths to advertise and claim it would be released alongside the game. It is not gratis that we should be happy to get. We paid for it. What relevance does the state of some other title have to this situation? "Look, they paid for a product and didn't get what they were sold so don't complain"? Rubbish. Money changed hands and the product was not as advertised. This is unacceptable. Great lengths to advertise it's day-one release? I don't remember that at all. What I remember being said is that they were HOPING for a day one release or at least close to it. If you look at Fallout 3, for example, the GECK came out almost three months after the release of the game. I don't remember when the TESCS came out, but still, give them some time. Yeah... i was following Skyrim pretty closely, and i don't remember any assurance it would be out on day one. Nor do i remember any assurances it would even be included. I remember a lot of "We\re hoping" and "We want" but never a "This is what your getting" statement regarding the construction set. It sounds like some people got a little too into the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmaad Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It certainly was assured to be included: Construction Set in "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim"Game director Todd Howard stated that there will be a construction set in "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim". Although not many details were given about its release, Howard said that his team is doing everything possible for it to be released at the same time as the game, but as a separate download (it was not released). As to how the construction set will work, Todd said that it will be similar to the Oblivion construction set, but with better tools so that modders can make better mods. He also said that the construction set was a very powerful tool and that he couldn't wait to see what the community will do with The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. The Construction Set will be a PC exclusive set to come out sometime between November 27, 2011 to December 3, 2011. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Creation_Kit http://www.vg247.com/2011/07/07/creation-kit-release-to-come-at-least-very-close-to-skyrim-launch-says-howard/ http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/35678/Interview_Todd_Howard_On_Scope_Vision_Of_Skyrim.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Well, Howard has proven himself to be among the most unreliable sources for anything TES in... Well... Forever. Still, the Wiki is only marginally reliable, and asside from it i've never seen those release dates anywhere. otherwise, the quote confirms the "We're trying" arguement rather than the "It will be done" arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmaad Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Todd Howard is an official spokesperson regardless of how you characterize his information. Furthermore, I added the 2 news sources since I figured someone might be skeptical of the wiki. I didn't include that for the dates of release, but for the promise of a dev kit. I wouldn't even bother with TES games without the modding capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The official spokesman for the Large Hadron Collider (Hes some swiss name, i'm not even going to bother trying to spell it) assured the world in 2010 that it was only a matter of months until they found the Higgs Boson particle. Now its looking like the thing doesn't even exist. People have their entire lives work based on the Higgs Boson, and if its not real everything goes down the drain. A Spokesman can say whatever he pleases, and may even be honest in his conviction, but holding them to that word when there are dozens of other people involved and a myriad of things that could go wrong is an inherently folly process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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