My Technological Ineptitude: The Saga

[Solstitial]

Oh, how I wish I knew what I was doing half the time I touched an electronic!

 

 

So I am experiencing occasional CTD's. It's nothing drastic, especially compared to how my Skyrim used to run awhile back. However, I'd like to know if maybe the handful of crashes I'm having right now could be avoided.

 

All I can think of is possible Load Order issues. If anyone way more experienced than I had any tips, that'd be awesome! I'm running LOOT through Mod Organizer, this is my list , in order, copied straight from LOOT.

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SPIKE.esm

7 7 ApachiiHair.esm

8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm

9 9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

10 a RaceCompatibility.esm

11 b Campfire.esm

12 c CompanionArissa.esm

13 d daymoyl.esm

14 e RSkyrimChildren.esm

15 f WM Flora Fixes.esp

16 10 VHVP.esm

17 11 HighResTexturePack01.esp

18 12 HighResTexturePack02.esp

19 13 HighResTexturePack03.esp

20 14 TESGLoadingScreens.esp

21 15 FollowerCompatibility.esp

22 16 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

23 17 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

24 18 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

25 19 Immersive detection of NPC.esp

26 1a AMatterOfTime.esp

27 1b Follower Map Markers-DB.esp

28 1c Follower Map Markers-DG.esp

29 1d Follower Map Markers-HF.esp

30 1e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

31 1f Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp

32 20 3DNPC.esp

33 21 ELFXEnhancer.esp

34 22 NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp

35 23 RealShelter.esp

36 24 Helgen Reborn.esp

37 25 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

38 26 HearthfireMultiKid.esp

39 27 ELFX - Weathers.esp

40 28 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

41 29 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

42 2a Interesting NPCs - EEO patch.esp

43 2b RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

44 2c USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp

45 2d RaceMenu.esp

46 2e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

47 2f WetandCold.esp

48 30 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

49 31 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

50 32 RSPatch.esp

51 33 DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp

52 34 zz_GD_DB_RAHoods.esp

53 35 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

54 36 RSChildren - Complete.esp

55 37 Holidays.esp

56 38 Civil War Repairs.esp

57 39 SkyUI.esp

58 3a dovahkiinrelax.esp

59 3b One With Nature - DG+DB.esp

60 3c DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

61 3d iHUD.esp

62 3e SimplyKnock.esp

63 3f HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

64 40 When Vampires Attack.esp

65 41 Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp

66 42 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

67 43 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp

68 44 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp

69 45 hunterarmornofur.esp

70 46 Convenient Horses.esp

71 47 FollowerWander2.esp

72 48 FollowerWander2Serana.esp

73 49 Brothers.esp

74 4a Inconsequential NPCs.esp

75 4b Run For Your Lives.esp

76 4c JK's Riverwood.esp

77 4d LeafRest OnePiece.esp

78 4e Hunterborn.esp

79 4f Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_BlacksmithChest_Patch.esp

Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp

80 50 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp

81 51 NonEssentialChildren.esp

82 52 RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp

83 53 Frostfall.esp

84 54 Immersive Patrols II.esp

85 55 JKs Skaal Village.esp

86 56 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

87 57 Follower Map Markers.esp

88 58 THMeeko.esp

89 59 iNeed.esp

90 5a iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

91 5b Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp

92 5c Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

93 5d Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

94 5e Aymarandfriends.esp

95 5f Gildergreen Regrown.esp

96 60 Follower Map Marker-Beacon Version.esp

97 61 HothFollower.esp

98 62 vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp

99 63 My Home Is Your Home.esp

100 64 GSRDivorce.esp

101 65 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp

102 66 ArchmageTolfdir.esp

103 67 LPBards.esp

104 68 CW Diverse Soldiers.esp

105 69 Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp

106 6a zz_GDRAHoods.esp

107 6b el_gildeddoubletsetcolor.esp

108 6c SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp

109 6d YourMarketStall.esp

110 6e Bashed Patch, 0.esp

111 6f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

112 70 AFT_iNPCFix.esp

113 71 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

114 72 da_alternate_start_extension.esp

115 73 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

116 74 Immersive Weapons.esp

 

Also, here are screenies of my computer specs, in case it is needed:

 

 

I'm unsure if my rig is enough to support these mods or not. I run about ~50-60 FPS according to ENBoost.

Edited December 15, 2016 by Solstitial

[Kroekr]

A listing of your load order would be helpful.

[Solstitial]

A listing of your load order would be helpful.

 

 

I hadn't wanted to make the screen a scroll-fest since I also inserted photos.

 

So it's in the spoiler tab. :dance:

Edited December 15, 2016 by Solstitial

[Solstitial]

I am now experiencing not just the occasional "harmless" crash.

 

I crash immediately when dealing with Lucan Valerius, the merchant in Riverwood. I have no idea what could be causing this. I CTD immediately when the merchant menu pops up, so now I'm not just trying to be preventative, but I have a genuine problem LOL.

 

Please help me if you can. My character lives in Riverwood so this is detrimental.

 

Once again, here is my Load Order in the spoiler :psyduck:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SPIKE.esm

7 7 ApachiiHair.esm

8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm

9 9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

10 a RaceCompatibility.esm

11 b Campfire.esm

12 c CompanionArissa.esm

13 d daymoyl.esm

14 e RSkyrimChildren.esm

15 f WM Flora Fixes.esp

16 10 VHVP.esm

17 11 HighResTexturePack01.esp

18 12 HighResTexturePack02.esp

19 13 HighResTexturePack03.esp

20 14 TESGLoadingScreens.esp

21 15 FollowerCompatibility.esp

22 16 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

23 17 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

24 18 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

25 19 Immersive detection of NPC.esp

26 1a AMatterOfTime.esp

27 1b Follower Map Markers-DB.esp

28 1c Follower Map Markers-DG.esp

29 1d Follower Map Markers-HF.esp

30 1e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

31 1f Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp

32 20 3DNPC.esp

33 21 ELFXEnhancer.esp

34 22 NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp

35 23 RealShelter.esp

36 24 Helgen Reborn.esp

37 25 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

38 26 HearthfireMultiKid.esp

39 27 ELFX - Weathers.esp

40 28 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

41 29 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

42 2a Interesting NPCs - EEO patch.esp

43 2b RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

44 2c USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp

45 2d RaceMenu.esp

46 2e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

47 2f WetandCold.esp

48 30 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

49 31 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

50 32 RSPatch.esp

51 33 DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp

52 34 zz_GD_DB_RAHoods.esp

53 35 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

54 36 RSChildren - Complete.esp

55 37 Holidays.esp

56 38 Civil War Repairs.esp

57 39 SkyUI.esp

58 3a dovahkiinrelax.esp

59 3b One With Nature - DG+DB.esp

60 3c DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

61 3d iHUD.esp

62 3e SimplyKnock.esp

63 3f HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

64 40 When Vampires Attack.esp

65 41 Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp

66 42 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

67 43 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp

68 44 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp

69 45 hunterarmornofur.esp

70 46 Convenient Horses.esp

71 47 FollowerWander2.esp

72 48 FollowerWander2Serana.esp

73 49 Brothers.esp

74 4a Inconsequential NPCs.esp

75 4b Run For Your Lives.esp

76 4c JK's Riverwood.esp

77 4d LeafRest OnePiece.esp

78 4e Hunterborn.esp

79 4f Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_BlacksmithChest_Patch.esp

Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp

80 50 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp

81 51 NonEssentialChildren.esp

82 52 RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp

83 53 Frostfall.esp

84 54 Immersive Patrols II.esp

85 55 JKs Skaal Village.esp

86 56 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

87 57 Follower Map Markers.esp

88 58 THMeeko.esp

89 59 iNeed.esp

90 5a iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

91 5b Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp

92 5c Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

93 5d Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

94 5e Aymarandfriends.esp

95 5f Gildergreen Regrown.esp

96 60 Follower Map Marker-Beacon Version.esp

97 61 HothFollower.esp

98 62 vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp

99 63 My Home Is Your Home.esp

100 64 GSRDivorce.esp

101 65 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp

102 66 ArchmageTolfdir.esp

103 67 LPBards.esp

104 68 CW Diverse Soldiers.esp

105 69 Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp

106 6a zz_GDRAHoods.esp

107 6b el_gildeddoubletsetcolor.esp

108 6c SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp

109 6d YourMarketStall.esp

110 6e Bashed Patch, 0.esp

111 6f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

112 70 AFT_iNPCFix.esp

113 71 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

114 72 da_alternate_start_extension.esp

115 73 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

116 74 Immersive Weapons.esp

Edited December 15, 2016 by Solstitial

[Varichi]

Have you run LOOT on it? I don't why you have Immersive Weapons at the bottom of the list, if so. You should get rid of FCO and replace it with Relationship Dialogue Overhaul. It's much better and fixes some of the issues with FCO.

 

That said, I doubt either of those are the causes of your crash. JK's Riverwood, however, might be. Have you tried disabling it and running the game again?

 

You should consider a Bashed Patch and a Merged Patch. You can use both together, build the Merged Patch first and then open it and delete Leveled NPCs and Leveled Items. Then build your Bashed Patch (Leveled Lists and Merged Lists, do not check the Stats or other boxes. Mod Alias Names is fine) and place it below the Merged Patch. This will help with compatibility-the Bashed Patch will make sure all the items from various mods get added to the leveled lists the original mod wanted them in (so bandits and merchants, for instance, carry the weapons from all the mods that try to add them to them) and the Merged Patch will attempt to combine various other changes made by mods. Deleting the Leveled Items and NPCs in the Merged Patch allows the Bashed Patch to handle those functions, which it is better at doing than the Merged Patch is. The Bashed Patch should load last with the Merged Patch right before it.

[Solstitial]

Have you run LOOT on it? I don't why you have Immersive Weapons at the bottom of the list, if so. You should get rid of FCO and replace it with Relationship Dialogue Overhaul. It's much better and fixes some of the issues with FCO.

 

That said, I doubt either of those are the causes of your crash. JK's Riverwood, however, might be. Have you tried disabling it and running the game again?

 

You should consider a Bashed Patch and a Merged Patch. You can use both together, build the Merged Patch first and then open it and delete Leveled NPCs and Leveled Items. Then build your Bashed Patch (Leveled Lists and Merged Lists, do not check the Stats or other boxes. Mod Alias Names is fine) and place it below the Merged Patch. This will help with compatibility-the Bashed Patch will make sure all the items from various mods get added to the leveled lists the original mod wanted them in (so bandits and merchants, for instance, carry the weapons from all the mods that try to add them to them) and the Merged Patch will attempt to combine various other changes made by mods. Deleting the Leveled Items and NPCs in the Merged Patch allows the Bashed Patch to handle those functions, which it is better at doing than the Merged Patch is. The Bashed Patch should load last with the Merged Patch right before it.

 

Yes, I use LOOT. I was also confused why it kept putting Immersive Weapons at the bottom, but that is definitely LOOT's doing.

 

I made no mod changes and for some reason, today, the Lucan Valerius issue isn't happening anymore. It's really weird.

[Varichi]

Interesting. Skyrim can be finicky like that.

 

If it was crashing when you tried to trade with him, your issue could easily be with an item that appeared in his inventory when you first spoke with him and now does not appear. Either that or you do not have Crash Fixes installed and your game hit the memory limit on loading the items. Either way, I'm glad it's gone (for now). Good luck!

[Kroekr]

 

 

 

 

Yes, I use LOOT. I was also confused why it kept putting Immersive Weapons at the bottom, but that is definitely LOOT's doing.

 

I would hazard a guess that you had other mods loaded and sorted before you installed IW. LOOT does not always sort every single mod, every single time it is run. In order to do this you need to reset LOOT. The procedure can be found here: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3527110-loot-load-order-optimisation/page-74&do=findComment&comment=37999850

[Solstitial]

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you both for your help! I'll look into the process of creating Merged and Bashed patches and also resetting LOOT.

 

For right now, my Skyrim is working perfectly, so I'll keep sacrificing goats to the Gods to keep that happening.

 

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Edited December 17, 2016 by Solstitial