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Ok, I am at my wits end right now because I've been trying to get damn mods working all day now but to no f***ing fruition.

 

I just downloaded fallout 4 for the first time earlier today, and i downloaded a bunch of mods. I tried to start the game and it just opened to a black screen for about 3 seconds and then closed. "Welp" I thought, "It must be some mods conflicting or something..." I weeded out about half of the mods that i wanted that were stopping the game from launching. It worked (Or at least started i never actually tried playing the game) but i there were too many mods that didnt work and the were all mods that changed armors or weapons or models and stuff like that so i looked it up and changed the .ini files and crap but then it just stopped working all together.

 

Deleted fallout 4 and everything to do with it and reinstalled it.

 

Tried again. Changed the .ini bulls***. Got CBBE to work (Didn't work before) tried to download other mods, and now it wont open again, just a black screen for a few seconds and then it closes. Even after i uninstalled the mods it wouldn't open.

 

I am currently reinstalling it again.

 

Please, if anyone knows what could be wrong please help me. I'm so f***ing pissed right now because all of the s*** i find online tells me the same "change the .ini's" bulls*** that doesn't even seem to help, hell it seems like it makes it worse.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Alright, I figured it out. It turns out it must have been something with my graphics card driver being out of date, since after i updated it I have had no problems and the mods are not crashing my game anymore so far, and i've successfully installed 8 of them now (about half of which previously did not work)

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These are the correct ini file changes to make: http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Fallout_4_Mod_Installation

 

Please also give us a list of the mods you're trying to install and what let us know what mod manager you're using.

Yeah, i looked at that page, and did that, and all i was using was CBBE and the fallout 4 configuration tool, and after i installed homemaker it wouldnt work after that. I am also using the Nexus Mod Manager

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Just throwing random thoughts here:

-Did you run the game once before installing mods?

-Are you running the game via Steam or from the button at the top of NMM/ModManager?

-Do you at least see the little window that pops up first with a few buttons, including "Play" or does it go straight to black screen (or crash)?

-Yes

-Tried Both

-I get the launcher where you can change settings, and when i press play it goes to a black screen for a few seconds and then closes

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You might be trying to do too many different and counteractive activities at once. Disable all mods. Delete both the custom and default ini files. Run the Fallout4Launcher.exe and press play. If I remember right that doesn't actually start the game, the screen sort of blinks and ends up at the menu again with Play, Options, Settings, etc. But it should recreate a clean, vanilla copy of your vanilla ini file, your plugins.txt file and any other files your game needs. Might want to verify steam cache at this point too just to be safe. Now open the game from either Fallout4.exe, from within Steam, or from within NMM. At this point you still should NOT have any mods enabled. Make sure you can at least start a new game. You can press T to skip the intro sequence and get straight to the bathroom shower scene. Go ahead and create your character, get to the vault, go through the vault and exit the vault. Once you reach Sanctuary, create a save and exit the game. This is the safest point at which to install new mods anyway, is once you've reached Sanctuary.

 

Now that you've verified a clean, vanilla game is working you can go ahead and make the ini changes. It's just two lines added to the Archive section. I've seen other people's directions include a third change but I've also seen that suggestion not work. So follow exactly what that link I posted above says:

  1. Add the following lines to your Fallout4Custom.ini

[Archive]

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1

sResourceDataDirsFinal=

  1. Save and close Fallout4Custom.ini

 

Now, enable just one mod in NMM. I recommend CBBE. Then, from within NMM start the game and open the saved game you already made. Verify that you now have CBBE working. Once that works, you can exit and enable one more mod. Open the game from within NMM and verify it's still working. Rinse and repeat a couple more times, adding new mods one at a time only. If after adding a mod it stops working, go back to the description page for that mod and make sure you followed all their instructions, installed any other mods that particular mod relies on, etc. You might be having a problem not with the game, but with having incorrectly installed a mod.

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You might be trying to do too many different and counteractive activities at once. Disable all mods. Delete both the custom and default ini files. Run the Fallout4Launcher.exe and press play. If I remember right that doesn't actually start the game, the screen sort of blinks and ends up at the menu again with Play, Options, Settings, etc. But it should recreate a clean, vanilla copy of your vanilla ini file, your plugins.txt file and any other files your game needs. Might want to verify steam cache at this point too just to be safe. Now open the game from either Fallout4.exe, from within Steam, or from within NMM. At this point you still should NOT have any mods enabled. Make sure you can at least start a new game. You can press T to skip the intro sequence and get straight to the bathroom shower scene. Go ahead and create your character, get to the vault, go through the vault and exit the vault. Once you reach Sanctuary, create a save and exit the game. This is the safest point at which to install new mods anyway, is once you've reached Sanctuary.

 

Now that you've verified a clean, vanilla game is working you can go ahead and make the ini changes. It's just two lines added to the Archive section. I've seen other people's directions include a third change but I've also seen that suggestion not work. So follow exactly what that link I posted above says:

  1. Add the following lines to your Fallout4Custom.ini

[Archive]

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1

sResourceDataDirsFinal=

  1. Save and close Fallout4Custom.ini

 

Now, enable just one mod in NMM. I recommend CBBE. Then, from within NMM start the game and open the saved game you already made. Verify that you now have CBBE working. Once that works, you can exit and enable one more mod. Open the game from within NMM and verify it's still working. Rinse and repeat a couple more times, adding new mods one at a time only. If after adding a mod it stops working, go back to the description page for that mod and make sure you followed all their instructions, installed any other mods that particular mod relies on, etc. You might be having a problem not with the game, but with having incorrectly installed a mod.

Alright, did exactly as you said. CBBE worked, and when i enabled the HUD Framework mod, i tried to re-open the game it black screened again for a few seconds, and then crashed. Now even when i disable all mods it wont open anymore, i try running as administrator and it wont work, I honestly don't know what is going wrong because it just doesn't work, my computer has no problem running the game normally, but mods seem to just make it not work for some reason...

 

Update* Now it wont open at all, literally nothing i try fixes it, all i get is a few seconds of black screen and then nothing.

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Ok so it sounds like for some reason you're having issues with HUD Framework. It might be that NMM isn't installing or fully uninstalling all the files. If you manually download the mod and save it some place you can easily find (doesn't matter where) then you can unzip the files and look at what the file structure should be. Then compare it to the file structure in Fallout 4/Data to see what's missing (or left behind after uninstall). I find it most helpful to have two separate file managers open for this part, one for the clean mod package you manually downloaded and one for the Fallout 4 Data directory. I bet that if you delete any swf files left behind that Fallout will start launching properly again.

 

The mods work, modding for fallout works, the ini tweaks I gave you are the official way to enable modding. Now that we've progressed a bit further in troubleshooting, I believe the problem that you're having is actually most likely related to NMM itself. The most recent versions of NMM are extremely buggy and are no longer being supported. It might actually better to revert to an older version of NMM or switch to a different mod manager like Mod Organizer 2.

 

Try what I mentioned in the first paragraph, remove all traces of the HUD Framework mod manually first. See if the game launches again. Then try reinstalling it and then verify that it has all the files in the appropriate place that it should have, copy over anything missing. Then see if it launches again. If that solves your problem and you want to continue using this version of NMM, you'll need to manually verify each installation in that same way. Otherwise I can help you get an older more stable version or switch to MO2.

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