Game CTDs almost immediately

[JordanJ]

Hey! Please help. I'm trying to get back into Skyrim now that the Special Edition has come out and I'm having trouble getting my mods to work. It crashes to desktop almost immediately upon startup.

 

I've already tried some of the suggested fixes (updating drivers, etc.) and I've run it through LOOT. No conflicts were reported. This is my load order:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 Campfire.esm
8 8 RSkyrimChildren.esm
9 9 Sneak Tools.esp
10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp
11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
12 c Rigmor.esp
13 d iNeed.esp
14 e iNeed - Extended.esp
15 f Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
16 10 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
17 11 InnCredible.esp
18 12 MagicalCollegeOfWinterhold.esp
19 13 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
20 14 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
21 15 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
22 16 When Vampires Attack.esp
23 17 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
24 18 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
25 19 Legendaries Forever.esp
26 1a Legendaries Forever USSEP Compatibility Patch.esp
27 1b CL Nettlebane.esp
28 1c CL BladeofSacrifice.esp
29 1d CL Ebonyblade.esp
30 1e CL BladeofWoe.esp
31 1f CL Chillrend.esp
32 20 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
33 21 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
34 22 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
35 23 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
36 24 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
37 25 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
38 26 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
39 27 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
40 28 beltfastenedquivers.esp
41 29 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
42 2a RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp
43 2b Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
44 2c Elemental Destruction.esp
45 2d YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
46 2e MoreBanditCamps(SSE Explorer'sEdition).esp
47 2f Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
48 30 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
49 31 Morrowloot.esp
50 32 Eli_Breezehome.esp
51 33 Man Those Borders!.esp
52 34 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
53 35 OpulentThievesGuild.esp
54 36 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
55 37 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
56 38 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
57 39 SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
58 3a Laundry.esp
59 3b JKs Whiterun.esp
60 3c Artifacts.esp
61 3d JK's Riverwood.esp
62 3e Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
63 3f Run For Your Lives.esp
64 40 Tel Mithryn.esp
65 41 Inigo.esp
66 42 Immersive Patrols II.esp
67 43 Darkwater Crossing.esp
68 44 Dolmen Ruins.esp
69 45 Shor's Stone.esp
70 46 Skyshards.esp
71 47 Immersive Followers.esp
72 48 Ivarstead.esp
73 49 Helarchen Creek.esp
74 4a Kynesgrove.esp
75 4b Whistling Mine.esp
76 4c Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
77 4d Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
78 4e Karthwasten.esp
79 4f RealisticWaterTwo.esp
80 50 Eli_Routa.esp
81 51 Storefront.esp
82 52 ElysiumEstate.esp
83 53 ForgottenCity.esp
84 54 draugrweap_repl_en.esp
85 55 ApotheosisDemo.esp
86 56 Legendaries Forever - Apophysis DP Mask Patch.esp
87 57 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
88 58 mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp
89 59 Better Harvesting.esp
90 5a Ars Metallica.esp
91 5b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
92 5c Faction Crossbows.esp
93 5d Dr_Bandolier.esp
94 5e Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
95 5f 1nivWICCloaks.esp
96 60 WetandCold.esp
97 61 KS_Hairdo's_Lite.esp
98 62 Simple AUA.esp
99 63 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
100 64 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
101 65 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
102 66 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
103 67 Skyrim Sizes.esp
104 68 ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
105 69 JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
106 6a Beards.esp
107 6b NB-Scars.esp
108 6c Equippable Tomes.esp
109 6d Gildergreen Regrown.esp
110 6e ISC Morrowloot Patch.esp
111 6f SkyrimRecycling.esp
112 70 crimsonquestmarkers.esp
113 71 HearthfireMultiKid.esp
114 72 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
115 73 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
116 74 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp
117 75 YOT - Campfire.esp
118 76 YOT - iNeed.esp
119 77 Potions.esp
120 78 Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
121 79 Aesthetic Elisif.esp
122 7a Killable Children.esp
123 7b RSChildren - Complete.esp
124 7c RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp
125 7d SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
126 7e Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
127 7f Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
128 80 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
129 81 FireBurns.esp
130 82 ElementalArrows.esp
131 83 LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp
132 84 JZBai_PracticalFemaleArmors.esp
133 85 Unique Uniques.esp
134 86 Legendaries Forever Unique Uniques Compatibility Patch.esp
135 87 Better_Male_Presets.esp
136 88 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
137 89 MLU.esp
138 8a Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
139 8b Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
140 8c Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

[pathtopower]

This can have multiple interpretations.

 

1. Have you installed ANY mods from old skyrim that has BSA FILES from old skyrim mods? This means did you went and downloaded mods from the old skyrim nexus or from the adult website you gotta google to get them adults mods? Running old bsa files that did not get converted into script files into the new edition format will cause this very issue.
2. Did you install any mods that requires running bodyslide before you start the game and got the right squeleton for said armor mods that needs xpms + hdt high heels? This will also cause a crash at start.
3. Did you run loot to notice if you lack any mods to make another mod work in the first place? This also can cause a ctd at start.

Alright those are 3 possibles scenario's. This is the best method to fix those issues.

 

First you turn off all of your mods, but keep alternative start. Start a new game and make a clean save. Turn on 1 or several mods. Make a list of all the mods you activated and keep doing so till you crash. Once you found the guilty mod. Do some research in said mod. See if the mod author in his nexus page mentionned if it had any patches or wrote that it had compatibility issues and see if you got mods that are part of said list. Remove said mod and use clean save to ensure your save is cleaned from any orphan scripts.

Edited December 23, 2016 by pathtopower

[JordanJ]

Thank you for your help. :) I think I'm making some progress by checking my mods 5 at a time.

 

I did run LOOT, and as said no conflicts were detected. I run it whenever I make any changes to my mods, and if there are problems I solve them to the best of my ability. I'm not very good with this kind of stuff.

 

As for adult mods, I only installed a nude mod that I found on the Special Edition site on the Nexus. I didn't install any from old Skyrim mods, or from websites other than the Nexus. I may have installed some Oldrim mods by accident, hopefully I managed to catch them this time.

 

I did not run any mods that require bodyslide, as far as I'm aware.

[JordanJ]

Hm, strange. I have hours of flawless gameplay when playing as a default male Nord, but when I made a male Orc character I barely made it out of character creation before I got CTDs. That was the same problem I had when I made this thread (I first tried playing as a male Orc).

 

This is my load order now. I will continue debugging tomorrow but it's late and I've been trying all day. Meanwhile if anyone has any idea what might be causing my problem, I would appreciate help!

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Campfire.esm
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 Sneak Tools.esp
8 8 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm
10 a Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
11 b Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
12 c Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
13 d Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
14 e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
15 f ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
16 10 Race Scale Remover.esp
17 11 DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp
18 12 Legendaries Forever.esp
19 13 Unique Uniques.esp
20 14 Legendaries Forever Unique Uniques Compatibility Patch.esp
21 15 MLU.esp
22 16 MLU - Unique Uniques Patch.esp
23 17 Ars Metallica.esp
24 18 Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
25 19 Legendaries Forever - Apophysis DP Mask Patch.esp
26 1a Legendaries Forever USSEP Compatibility Patch.esp
27 1b Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
28 1c Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
29 1d Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
30 1e Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
31 1f Frostfall.esp
32 20 MLU - Ars Metallica Patch.esp
33 21 Inigo.esp
34 22 MLU - Inigo.esp
35 23 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
36 24 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
37 25 MLU - Immersive Armors.esp
38 26 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
39 27 Volkihar Knight.esp
40 28 Volkihar Knight - Sacrosanct Patch.esp
41 29 JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
42 2a Beards.esp
43 2b Better_Male_Presets.esp
44 2c KS_Hairdo's_Lite.esp
45 2d NB-Scars.esp
46 2e True Eyes SE desaturated.esp
47 2f Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
48 30 Simple AUA.esp
49 31 Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
50 32 Elemental Destruction.esp
51 33 Tel Mithryn.esp
52 34 Darkwater Crossing.esp
53 35 Helarchen Creek.esp
54 36 Ivarstead.esp
55 37 JK's Riverwood.esp
56 38 JKs Whiterun.esp
57 39 Karthwasten.esp
58 3a Kynesgrove.esp
59 3b Shor's Stone.esp
60 3c Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
61 3d Whistling Mine.esp
62 3e Dr_Bandolier.esp
63 3f Equippable Tomes.esp
64 40 1nivWICCloaks.esp
65 41 Immersive Jewelry.esp
66 42 Skyshards.esp
67 43 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
68 44 SkyrimRecycling.esp
69 45 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
70 46 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
71 47 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
72 48 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
73 49 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
74 4a Immersive Followers.esp
75 4b Dolmen Ruins.esp
76 4c crimsonquestmarkers.esp
77 4d Cutting Room Floor.esp
78 4e HearthfireMultiKid.esp
79 4f HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
80 50 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
81 51 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp
82 52 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
83 53 Run For Your Lives.esp
84 54 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
85 55 mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp
86 56 When Vampires Attack.esp
87 57 MagicalCollegeOfWinterhold.esp
88 58 OpulentThievesGuild.esp
89 59 Better Harvesting.esp
90 5a BetterQuestObjectives.esp
91 5b Gildergreen Regrown.esp
92 5c Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
93 5d Laundry.esp
94 5e Immersive Patrols II.esp
95 5f iNeed.esp
96 60 iNeed - Extended.esp
97 61 LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp
98 62 Man Those Borders!.esp
99 63 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
100 64 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
101 65 WetandCold.esp
102 66 YOT - Campfire.esp
103 67 YOT - iNeed.esp
104 68 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
105 69 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
106 6a Potions.esp
107 6b SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
108 6c MoreBanditCamps(SSE Explorer'sEdition).esp
109 6d AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
110 6e Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
111 6f InnCredible.esp
112 70 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp
113 71 Storefront.esp
114 72 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
115 73 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
116 74 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
117 75 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
118 76 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
119 77 Aesthetic Elisif.esp
120 78 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
121 79 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
122 7a Skyrim Sizes.esp
123 7b Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
124 7c Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
125 7d Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Weathers.esp
126 7e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
127 7f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
128 80 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
129 81 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
130 82 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp
131 83 Eli_Breezehome.esp
132 84 ElysiumEstate.esp
133 85 Eli_Routa.esp
134 86 ApotheosisDemo.esp
135 87 Rigmor.esp
136 88 ForgottenCity.esp
137 89 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
138 8a Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
139 8b Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
140 8c Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
141 8d Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
142 8e icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
143 8f Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
144 90 FireBurns.esp
145 91 FemArmorOverhaul.esp
146 92 beltfastenedquivers.esp
147 93 CL BladeofWoe.esp
148 94 CL Chillrend.esp
149 95 CL Ebonyblade.esp
150 96 CL BladeofSacrifice.esp
151 97 CL Nettlebane.esp
152 98 draugrweap_repl_en.esp
153 99 ElementalArrows.esp
154 9a Faction Crossbows.esp
155 9b skyforgedWeapons.esp
156 9c Artifacts.esp
157 9d mrbs-unique artifacts-se.esp
158 9e Aetherial Veins.esp
159 9f WICO - Immersive Character.esp
160 a0 WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
161 a1 WICO - Immersive People.esp
162 a2 WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp
163 a3 RSChildren - Complete.esp
164 a4 RSChildren - PlayableHairPatch.esp
165 a5 RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp

[JordanJ]

Still having issues. Also, is there a mod that re-enables achievements for a modded game?

[JordanJ]

I've managed to get the game to run and play smoothly, but now I'm having a strange problem with being stuck in conversations. Sometimes when I talk to someone, the game won't allow me to tab out of the conversation. Any ideas?

[Kroekr]

When you sorted with LOOT did you clean your masters with TesVEdit as LOOT suggested?

[Anya29]

3rd or 4th time I have answered the same problem.

 

Disable Rigmor until Immersive Armours has finish loading and initialising for the first time. They do not work immediately together and you have to play a few minutes for your new game to initialise everything. Then activate Rigmor.

 

That is the reason for the new game CTD.

Edited December 27, 2016 by Anya29

[JordanJ]

Oh my gosh, thank you. <3

[JordanJ]

OK, my game is playable now but I'm still having a few persistent bugs, and overall poor performance (lots of lag, occasionally freezing and forcing me to restart my computer).

 

The two bugs that frustrate me the most are getting stuck in combat and getting stuck in conversations. Sometimes the game will behave as though I'm still in combat, even if every enemy in the immediate vicinity is dead. My follower will behave as though he's in combat and I'm unable to wait, sit, or interact with objects. My best guess is that there's an enemy SOMEWHERE on the map causing this, but I've never been able to find the source of the problem. So far the only fix I've found is reloading an earlier save.

 

I sometimes also am unable to tab out of conversations with NPCs or end them in any way. This forces me to restart the game.

 

I've also noticed that music and sounds sometimes play up, like music not stopping when it's supposed to. This forced me to uninstall The Forgotten City as the custom music wouldn't stop playing.

 

Concerning performance I've tried just about everything - I've locked the framerate at 60fps, turned off vertical sync, updated my drivers, etc. etc. Nothing seems to work. Please help.