Politicians: a subspecies of the human race !/?

[Chesto]

Watching the former governor of the state of New York dragging his wife along to his mea culpas, I was , yet again, reminded of how politicians behave in ways that seem alien to the rest of us humans. Who else but a politician would have his wife standing mutely by while he spilled his guts to the world about his sexual shenanigans, and that didn't involve her?

 

Is there some kind of mutated gene that makes for 'politicians'? Or is it the fact that so many of them start out as lawyers, most ( arguable) of whom pretty well accepting that they will have to leave their basic human morality at the door as they work on behalf of clients with their own questionable moral baggage?

 

All good 'politician' and 'lawyer' jokes accepted here. And serious comment too, of course.

[WoogieMonster]

I came into this with the intent of making a joke, but as I typed, I realized that as a serviceman, I have a deep hatred of politicians. So much in fact, that I even felt my body begin to heat up with anger, and just two minutes ago I was in a fairly good mood.

Considering politicians treat soldiers as if we're produced in a factory like little green army men, and our lives are completely worthless, I really don't care when bad things happen to them, and when it's something this ironic, I absolutely love it.

The guy in charge of catching internet predators, is himself an online pedophile

The former DA who championed "moral crimes" like prostitution, is himself such a dedicated John that a hooker went WAY out of her area to see him

The biggest opponent of gay rights, was having sex with the teen intern boys

The biggest opponent of alternative life styles and gay marriage, busted for soliciting sex from a male cop on the toilet

The guy who said america's 9-11 terror attack was an act of god as punishment for gays, drugs, and a perverted society, turned out to be a married preacher who was busted for doing drugs with his gay lover.

 

After thinking about how they treat us, I absolutely love it when something happens to one of them. 99 percent of the time, it will be something so poetic that it makes me want to touch myself.

[Vagrant0]

I don't think subspecies would apply here. Subspecies would imply that they were born seperate, and cannot interbreed with humans (in this case). And his wife probably knew (or atleast suspected) it happening before any of us. And she's either had to listen to him practice the speach several times now, (which may lessen the pain) or may be more interested in how much she will be able to get from him once the devorce papers are put in. Since it was his fault, and he was governor (or something) at the time, that could be quite alot. Or maybe they wanted a devorce to begn with, and in that state (or within his religion) someone HAS to be found at fault with evidence for it to be approved. While losing your job would be an extreme casualty, it it's planned right, the damage can be lessened.

[Chesto]

Woogie...I didn't mean for anybody to brought low by this thread, 'course hypertension will always be a by-product when discussing politicians. At least you seem to find reasons to be cheerful by the end of your piece. Perhaps that is why Nature allowed them to evolve along with the human race: it makes us humans feel so gooood when they are brought low.

Politicians everywhere seem content to wrap themselves in the battle honours of the troops which they send gaily off to war, even though they themselves rarely have the guts to do the duty.

At least some of your pols do resign. Ours rarely do, these days. They just get shifted to some other ministry, leaving their whoopsies behind for another of their spawn to try to clean up, or , more likely, avoid doing so while blaming someone else.

 

Vagrant... is there any actual proof that pols do breed with humans? I mean... look at the governor's wife's behaviour. Is that the behaviour of a normal human woman whose husband has done the dirty on her, and then expects her to stand by his slimy side on prime- time? Don't think so.

Or maybe that was part of her settlement. Though I do like the conspiracy theory aspects of them doing the whole thing just to get out of being married to each other. Yet another example of sub-human behaviour.

As to this particular chap getting away with it... I think the Fibbies might have other ideas about that.

[Malchik]

They are of course a part of the human race - warts and all. They all have faults and maybe vices, they will have done things in their youth that they might wish they hadn't. Actually little of it ought to matter. Do we want a government made up of people who are NOT like the rest of the human race?

 

What always amazes me is how so many of them seem to be born arch-hypocrites. The examples Woogie gives emphasise the point but these are high profile. Routine taking of kick-backs in various forms while professing to stand against corruption. Believing that the law is for everyone except politicians. Finding everyway possible to 'milk' the system financially while proselytising the need to clamp down on fraud. It seems to be endemic. (There are I am sure honourable exceptions i.e. those who haven't been found out yet.)

 

As an actor I know that the best politicians have mastered many acting techniques. And one of these is of course pretending to be someone you are not very convincingly. The difference is that an actor knows he is playing a part, a politician can too easily forget it.

 

At the end of the day though is it entirely their fault? We should be able to accept people with faults provided they do not impact on their effectiveness and ability in the political arena. This need to have everybody 'squeaky clean' means they all have to lie and cover up reality. As the saying goes, every nation gets the politicians they deserve.

[Chesto]

Malchik... it seems to me that you raise many points which tend to back up my question. No, of course they're not a subspecies. More of a subset, like a criminal class.

Think of generations of criminals being born to the same families. That kind of thing. A criminal mind set seems to be passed on as part of their cultural milieu. Politicians seem , with some few honourable exceptions, to be from the same mold. There seems to be a propensity for the activities you mention inbuilt into their make up.

Sure, we as normal humans are capable of all sorts of wrong doing and some of us give in to it. But I don't think that, other than in the professional criminal class I mentioned, the will to ... 'the wrong' ( I almost said 'sin' but that's too loaded with religious overtones) is quite so developed in people as much as it is in politicians.

 

Here is a personal example of what I'm trying, but probably failing, to get at. I was a Labour voter all my adult life. You could have called me white collar 'old Labour'. (I'm afraid this kind of minutae is going to leave our American friends scratching their heads...) I was, in effect, a gut lefty. (Fortunately, progressive hardening of the arteries has cured me of that 'affliction' and I'm as Right reactionary as almost anyone could desire, now.) I kept the 'faith' through out all the DARK TIME, believing what the left wing politicians , HM Opposition, were so eloquently telling me that they would do if only, if only....

 

One of my proudest boasts to myself is that I never voted for Blair. We'd decamped to Scotland by then, so I got to vote for another bunch who will also probably turn out to be charlattans in Office. I had begun to see through Blair and his new-labourites pretty early on. Not too hard to if one was paying attention. Tory lite at the time. Tory Heavy, when in office.

 

I'm getting to the point. Trust me.

 

Blair got his obscene majority. A goat could have had an obscene majority standing against the broken Tories, then. A goat would have had character. As it was, we got characterless, spineless sheep. Multitudes of Labour sheep. The same people who had made us believe that they would 'fight the good fight' for almost 20 years, that ' the New Jerusalem ' would dawn with a Labour victory, that most of the things that were so wrong with our Islands would be put right. All we had to do was ' trust' them. Believe that what they were telling us all those years was an approximation of the truth.

 

Sure, there were some labour rebels against Tony the Tory, Thatcher Lite, Bush's Poodle, The MegaCorp Board Room seat warmer... at least a dozen out of the hundreds who got in on the Lie. The rest, those battalions of sheep, just did what came naturally. They were politicians. They could call black, white. Up, down. A lie, the truth. Without batting an eye. And with never a blush. Over and over.

 

And this scenerio is repeated in every political party, in every country, in the world.

 

Do I care if a politician has a few personal blemishes? No. Does it matter as long as they do the job they were elected to do? No. Do we get the politicians we deserve? No.

 

No,we bloody well don't. For a start, they'd have to be human like the rest of us for us to deserve them.

[ninja_lord666]

Are politicians non-human? What a stupid question. Of course they're human! Humans have a certain biological makeup that we all share, and politicians have that same DNA. Being a moron/hypocrite/jerk/liar doesn't change one's DNA.

[xenxander]

We know they are human; this is a metaphor. I find the comedy when people say, “Nooooo, that makes no sense look!” It’s almost the preverbal face slap and the “I KNOW, you dumbass!”

 

Oh wait we can’t say “dumbass”, it’s not ‘politically correct’. We’re becoming far too politically correct and far too afraid to step on other people’s toes. Conjoining, politicians loose sight of their intended purposes. Case and point: “I can’t do anyone any good if I’m not here.” A typical line used during reelections, though they spend most of their time trying to keep their job and not actually doing it.

 

I knew from the start when I had to read the constitution for American Government, that there was as problem. There is a term limit set for the President, but no term limit set for Congress. Reality check! Why the hell not? If one were to limit the term of a “House” member to six years and a Senate limit to twelve (three terms and two terms respectively), there would be less focus on keeping their job and more on actually accomplishing things. Old crusties who have been in the “business” for decades have lost vision and sight (power corrupts; it’s a plain and simple fact of human nature). But what do I know, yes? I’m just an analysis, a realist, and analytical.

[freddycashmercury]

Politicians..... Oh my. Of course, we've all heard the old joke. "Politics- Poli meaning many and Tics meaning bloodsucking creatures." I believe that the joke accurately describes the majority of politicians. I also believe, however, that there are a few people who honestly want to help. I can't really point them out at the moment, but I believe they exist. Or at least, I hope they do.

 

As for lawyers..... I aspire to be one. Hehehehehe.....

[freddycashmercury]

:wallbash: Honestly, I really dislike this line of thinking :wallbash:

 

I mean, to be honest, do you think you coud do better? It is IMPPOSSIBLE t orun a countery well.

 

Yes. I think a sack of rabid chimps would do a better job. And it is not impossible to run a country well. What is impossible is to make everyone happy.