Linsolv Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Can I point out that in Windhelm, there is one guy (two if you count exactly one conversation where he was playing yes-man to the Stone-Fist) who picks on dark elves? Compare to Morrowind, where just about every dark elf wanted you to know how much of an N'wah or Swit you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanusForbeare Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes that's true. But when faced with the fact that at least the empire does not judge you for your race. When did you last see an Elf, Argonian or Khajit face in the Imperial ranks? There's an Altmer captain in the Imperial legion. He can be found in the camp in the Rift before the war... and I thought he was in Morthal after the Imperial victory, but I could be mistaken on that. Anyways, some elves do serve in the legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes that's true. But when faced with the fact that at least the empire does not judge you for your race. When did you last see an Elf, Argonian or Khajit face in the Imperial ranks? There's an Altmer captain in the Imperial legion. He can be found in the camp in the Rift before the war... and I thought he was in Morthal after the Imperial victory, but I could be mistaken on that. Anyways, some elves do serve in the legion. I actually met a Bosmer while walking around the road between Windhelm and Dawnstar, he said he was going to Solitude to join the Legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubjectProphet Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Pretty sure I glitched, but a High Elf was saying that he was going to Windhelm to join the Stormcloaks. I was VERY confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanoro Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 How do you know the Empire's politicians/citizens don't abide by the Concordat? That's just conjecture based on nothing, really. As for Tullius we all want to believe he's a good guy doing his job and trying to bring peace but there isn't even a line of dialogue of his where he says "by the way, I think the Concordat was a bad treaty and I'm only enforcing it cause I'm ordered to". As for not reporting Talos worshippers that is true of Rikke but it seems Tullius has no problem letting regular Nords rot in jail. In other words he might be protecting his own soldiers a bit but he's certainly letting the Thalmor roam free in Skyrim. Oh and remember, the Stormcloak Gray-Mane that you have to rescue was extradited to the Thalmor BY TULLIUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terzho Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Let recap...Imperials and High Elves Kidnap, Torture and Execute people without trials based on a persons Race. Have you seen any other Race other than Nords being Executed? being Kidnapped? Tortured? With no trial and no evidence of anything. Heck you even have 2 Men Taunting and Old Women because her son choose to join the Stormcloaks in Whiterun. Saying he deserved Death.Ulfric has a bunch of Dark Elf refugees living in his city. Granted he is apathetic towards them but they aint living in a Thalmor Prison or on the Tundra. And Ulfric is the bad guy? The Imperials do not capture, torture, or execute anyone, that is SOLELY a Thalmor operation. Secondly several high ranking Imperial people including General Tullis know Talos worshipers and don't report them, because not even the Empire's own soldiers and politicians follow the White-Gold concordant. Um, where were you at the beginning of the game cause it's kind of hard to miss the bit where you're about to get your head cut off. Also at the start of the game when you are escaping Helgen. You have to go through a torture chamber. You see stormcloaks locked in cells, torture devices and a torturer that says he tortured them. So yes, the imperials do capture, torture and execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajuukkhar9000 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Um, where were you at the beginning of the game cause it's kind of hard to miss the bit where you're about to get your head cut off. Also at the start of the game when you are escaping Helgen. You have to go through a torture chamber. You see stormcloaks locked in cells, torture devices and a torturer that says he tortured them. So yes, the imperials do capture, torture and execute. 1. You were captured for crossing the border illegally, not Talos worship.2. The Stormcloaks were captured because its a WAR and they are fighting/killing Imperial citizens, not because they are Talos worshipers.3. The ONLY people who hunt down, imprison, and torture Talos worshipers are the Thalmor.4. Don't warp words next time to try to make people say things they didn't. It is rude, and makes you look very silly. Edited January 19, 2012 by sajuukkhar9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terzho Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Um, where were you at the beginning of the game cause it's kind of hard to miss the bit where you're about to get your head cut off. Also at the start of the game when you are escaping Helgen. You have to go through a torture chamber. You see stormcloaks locked in cells, torture devices and a torturer that says he tortured them. So yes, the imperials do capture, torture and execute. 1. You were captured for crossing the border illegally, not Talos worship.2. The Stormcloaks were captured because its a WAR and they are fighting/killing Imperial citizens, not because they are Talos worshipers.3. The ONLY people who hunt down, imprison, and torture Talos worshipers are the Thalmor.4. Don't warp words next time to try to make people say things they didn't. It is rude, and makes you look very silly. How was I warping words? You said that Imperials don't capture, execute or torture ANYONE which clearly isn't true as the torturer at the start of the game is obviously Imperial and you were obviously about to be executed. We're not just talking about Talos worshippers here. In fact in your original post you didn't even mentio Talos worshippers so I don't know why you're bringing them up. Don't reply if you haven't read the post properlly. It is rude, and makes you look very silly. Edited January 19, 2012 by terzho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terzho Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Let recap...Imperials and High Elves Kidnap, Torture and Execute people without trials based on a persons Race. Have you seen any other Race other than Nords being Executed? being Kidnapped? Tortured? With no trial and no evidence of anything. Heck you even have 2 Men Taunting and Old Women because her son choose to join the Stormcloaks in Whiterun. Saying he deserved Death.Ulfric has a bunch of Dark Elf refugees living in his city. Granted he is apathetic towards them but they aint living in a Thalmor Prison or on the Tundra. And Ulfric is the bad guy? The Imperials do not capture, torture, or execute anyone, that is SOLELY a Thalmor operation. Secondly several high ranking Imperial people including General Tullis know Talos worshipers and don't report them, because not even the Empire's own soldiers and politicians follow the White-Gold concordant. Sorry for the double post but, ^^^ This was your original post was it not? If you would read the one I quoted you will note that no changes have been made. These are your words not mine. Just because you think your argument is bad does not mean you can accuse me of "Warping". Edited January 19, 2012 by terzho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajuukkhar9000 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) The conversation was about The Thalmor taking people, had you been paying attention to the conversation you would have known that is what I was referring to, which leaves us with two possible outcomes. 1. You weren't following the conversation and just replied to a random post by taking out of context meaning you unintentionally warped someones words.2. You were following the conversation and chose to ignore it and thus warped words on purpose. Either way you still warped words. Edited January 19, 2012 by sajuukkhar9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts