diamonddragoniori Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Legion all the way....if what the bards sing is right in "the age of aggression"...the imperials are the good guys..... besides windhelm is a pit of racism and paranoia....so are the stormcloaks.....and with the exception of a certain obnoxious jarl...all the imperial jarls who replace the other jarls at the end of the empire's quest...are all the proof you need to join the legion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajuukkhar9000 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) I would defiantly go with The Empire -Better Jarls for Skyrim-A more unified Tamriel to fight The Dominion-A more racially tolerant skyrim. Edited January 15, 2012 by sajuukkhar9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terzho Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Talos is also worshipped in Cryodill, so its not that they sold out Skyrim, but considered it a necessary evil for getting peace when they were on the losing side of the war. Actually very little is given about true intentions and workings of the Thalmor. I have noticed in the many arguments between imperials and stormcloaks that many people have brushed off the banning of talos as something that was unimportant and how the nords should of just dealt with it. However these people fail to realise that Talos worship is the main religion for them. It would be like a foreign power going into the U.S and banning Christianity. So yes the Empire did sell out Skyrim and no the Stormcloaks are not being naive in being angry about their religion getting banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajuukkhar9000 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) I have noticed in the many arguments between imperials and stormcloaks that many people have brushed off the banning of talos as something that was unimportant and how the nords should of just dealt with it. However these people fail to realise that Talos worship is the main religion for them. It would be like a foreign power going into the U.S and banning Christianity. So yes the Empire did sell out Skyrim and no the Stormcloaks are not being naive in being angry about their religion getting banned. Talos worship ISN'T the "main" religion for them. The Nords worship the Nine Divines, they just revere Talos more then most. Their entire religion wasn't banned only one of the 9 gods they worshiped. Edited January 15, 2012 by sajuukkhar9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyclawolf Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Its like this Stormcloaks are the Sons and Daughters of Skyrim. Its true because their cause of waging battle to Imperials is To save Nords from losing their traditions and their pure blood and doings of a Nord and reclaiming Skyrim only for the Nords to rule over. Problem is their government is Barbaric, of course because they are Nords. Their is something more in order on Imperials than Stormcloaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faifh Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Talos is also worshipped in Cryodill, so its not that they sold out Skyrim, but considered it a necessary evil for getting peace when they were on the losing side of the war. Actually very little is given about true intentions and workings of the Thalmor. I have noticed in the many arguments between imperials and stormcloaks that many people have brushed off the banning of talos as something that was unimportant and how the nords should of just dealt with it. However these people fail to realise that Talos worship is the main religion for them. It would be like a foreign power going into the U.S and banning Christianity. So yes the Empire did sell out Skyrim and no the Stormcloaks are not being naive in being angry about their religion getting banned. In Oblivion Cryodill also mentions serveral times they worshipped Talos as well, it was just as well an necessary evil to get peace. The Nord and specifically the Stormcloaks just got their pants more easily in a twist about this than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorak Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) I have noticed in the many arguments between imperials and stormcloaks that many people have brushed off the banning of talos as something that was unimportant and how the nords should of just dealt with it. However these people fail to realise that Talos worship is the main religion for them. It would be like a foreign power going into the U.S and banning Christianity. So yes the Empire did sell out Skyrim and no the Stormcloaks are not being naive in being angry about their religion getting banned. Talos worship ISN'T the "main" religion for them. The Nords worship the Nine Divines, they just revere Talos more then most. Their entire religion wasn't banned only one of the 9 gods they worshiped. This is like saying, "We only banned Mohammad, they've still got Allah. What's their problem?" It's ludicrously naive. Banning Talos most certainly is an absolutely massive deal for Nords. Especially when you also let Thalmor snatch squads roam around the countryside murdering anyone they please. To take the previous idea of putting it into modern context....the US defeats Iran, and in the peace negotiations it bans Mohammad. Then, US killteams roam around the place summarily executing anyone who mentions Mohammad in his religious Islamic context. If you think this is something the locals should "just put up with", then you really need to see a psychologist. Edited January 15, 2012 by Khorak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajuukkhar9000 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) This is like saying, "We only banned Mohammad, they've still got Allah. What's their problem?" It's ludicrously naive. Banning Talos most certainly is an absolutely massive deal for Nords. Especially when you also let Thalmor snatch squads roam around the countryside murdering anyone they please. I suggest you do back and pay attention to what people say in the game. The "ban" on Talos worship was not upheld in practice. Several Jarls, Legates, and countless other people were known to practice Talos worship, and nothing happened to them. It wasn't until Ulfirc started the war that The Thalmor actually had a reason to go to Skyrim and started snatching people. Edited January 15, 2012 by sajuukkhar9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorak Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 This is like saying, "We only banned Mohammad, they've still got Allah. What's their problem?" It's ludicrously naive. Banning Talos most certainly is an absolutely massive deal for Nords. Especially when you also let Thalmor snatch squads roam around the countryside murdering anyone they please. I suggest you do back and pay attention to what people say in the game. The "ban" on Talos worship was not upheld in practice. Several Jarls, Legates, and countless other people were known to practice Talos worship. It wasn't until Ulfirc started the war that The Thalmor actually started snatching people. Again, this is another apologetically naive and insulting argument to make. To refer to my scenario above, it isn't somehow acceptable for the US to have banned Mohammad, because the local Islamic government is trying not to bother enforcing it. Even if people are still secretly worshipping Talos and getting away with it with a wink and a nod, the fact still remains that these people can no longer publically practise their religion. They cannot worship Talos in the open and their temples have been closed. They have been banned. Failure to understand this just reeks of a complete lack of any form of empathy or understanding. Take it out of religious context, and it's a case of homosexuality being illegal. Oh sure, we let people be gay and turn a blind eye, but regardless, every single day any homosexual has to hide away who they are and can only meet with other gay people in the freaking wilderness so they don't get caught. If you can't work out why that's just not acceptable.....well there's no point arguing. You'll watch Fox News and vote right wing every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faifh Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Legion all the way....if what the bards sing is right in "the age of aggression"...the imperials are the good guys..... To be fair there a two versions of this song sung in Skyrim. Here a side by side comparison. The Age of Oppression The Age of Aggression =============================== ================================ We drink to our youth, We drink to our youth, and to days come and gone. to days come and gone. For the age of oppression For the age of aggression is now nearly done. is just about done. We´ll drive out the Empire We´ll drive out the Stormcloaks from this land that we own. and restore what we own. With our blood and our steel With our blood and our steel we will take back our home. we´ll take back our home. All hail to Ulfric! Down with Ulfric You are the High King! the killer of kings. In your great honor On the day of your death we drink and we sing. we´ll drink and we´ll sing. We´re the children of Skyrim, We´re the children of Skyrim, and we fight all our lives. and we fight all our lives. And when Sovngarde beckons, And when Sovngarde beckons, every one of us dies! every one of us dies! But this land is ours But this land is ours and we´ll see it wiped clean. and we´ll see it wiped clean. Of the scourge that has sullied Of the scourge that has sullied our hopes and our dreams. our hopes and our dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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