Crashing often under specific circumstances

[Hondur]

Hello,

so, I crash quite frequently, and at times I've definitely noticed patterns, but these patterns are so seemingly random that I can't understand what exactly keeps crashing my game.

 

Some patterns in crashing:

1. Whenever I exit the Imperial City and fast travel to somewhere (I'm still on City Isle), I pretty much always crash. However, if I save before fast traveling, and then reload that save, and then fast travel, I pretty much never crash. City Isle is generally a very crash-prone area for me.

2. Once I was trying to fast travel from the waterfront district to Brina Cross Inn, I saved before traveling. I crashed, and when I reloaded the save I kept crashing when attempting to fast travel. I also crashed when trying to fast travel to Whitmond Farm. However, when I from the same location attempted to fast travel to Bleak Flats Cave (North of Skingrad), I didn't crash.

3. Generally, when exploring on a horse, I generally crash a lot more. I was exploring around Anvil and County Kvatch, on a horse (I was riding one of Zira's Horse Mod horses), I crashed a lot more than on foot.

4. In the town mod Rathunas, when I was resting outside of the Priory of Kynareth,I kept crashing. When I was resting INSIDE of it, it went fine.

5. I frequently, but not always, crash when fast traveling to Cheydinhal for some reason.

6. I kept on crashing when resting outside of Leyawiin, in the newly-added docks area by Better Cities.

7. When Exploring in Elsweyr Anequina, I kept crashing by the border. I had to circumvent it, taking a long route off the road, to not crash. I also kept crashing a LOT in the "first part" of the city of Orcrest.

8. I almost never crash inside buildings.

 

So, a summary:

I crash mainly when exploring in the wilderness, especially City Isle.
I crash very often when fast traveling, but if I reload to a time right before fast traveling, and repeat the fast travel, it generally works out.
I crash at times when resting, and reloading and repeating the resting doesn't help.

I rarely, if ever, crash inside.

 

Also, I pretty much always crash when trying to mount a horse with Ruined Tail following me. This "patch" for it seems to make me only crash sometimes (but still pretty often) rather than literally all the time. For now I'm just avoiding to take him with me when I travel by horse.

Another note, I have cleaned the mods that needed cleaning. I don't think it helped much, unfortunately.

 

My load order:

Oblivion.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

CM Partners.esm

Bab.esm

Knights - Revelation.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

Underwater.esp

Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp

AliveWaters.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

Quest Log Manager.esp

Enhanced Hotkeys.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

Bab.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

UAP.esp

Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp

Zira's Horse Modpack - Heavy Legion Horses.esp

Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp

Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp

Zira's Horse Modpack - Extra Horses.esp

Zira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.esp

AncientTowers.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

BabShop.esp

Ivellon.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp

Kragenir's Death Quest.esp

KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp

Malevolent.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp

FrostcragRebornCobl.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights - Revelation.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

TOTF.esp

RTT.esp

RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

AFK_Weye.esp

MannimarcoRevisited.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp

ReclaimSancreTor.esp

HeartOftheDead.esp

ShezriesTownsMaster.esp

LostSpires+PellsGate Patch.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp

RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp

AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp

Kragenir'sDeathQuest-RST-CliffsofAnvil Patch.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

AncientTowers-EasternPeaks patch.esp

RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp

Better Cities - House price patch.esp

Better Dungeons.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

ATakesAll.esp

Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

spelliconreplace.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Rathunas-MidasMagic.esp

Rathunas01.esp

X.Races.Comp.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

IntegrationTheStrandedLight-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp

IntegrationIntegratedTheStrandedLight-EasternPeaks patch.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp

RTT_Unofficial_Patch.esp

xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp

Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp

Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp

Better Cities Chorrol - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp

Better Cities IC Arena - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp

Better Cities Skingrad - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp

Better Cities IC Arboretum - Kragenir's Death Quest.esp

Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

RTT-horse-patch.esp

Edited January 21, 2017 by Hondur

[bevilex]

Probably crashes are related to memory usage. With all the mods you have (Better Citties, UL, Rathunas), Oblivion is running out of memory very fast. This can explain why when you reload Oblivion before fast traveling it doesn't crash.

 

- Did you use the 4GB patch? It can help to reduce them.

 

- What are your system specs? You should try to install ENBoost, you can get rid definitely of these kind of crashes if you have enough RAM and VRAM.

 

- MoreHeap also can help.

 

- Do you have Oblivion Stutter Remover? Show me your ini.

 

- A mod which purges the memory (PCB mods) can also help you a lot to keep the memory clean.

Edited January 21, 2017 by bevilex

[marob307]

Also, did you install texture mod like QTP3 improved tree an d flora. If you don't have great machine, you remove them as me. I have a similar mod list and no crashing.

 

Also, you should use BOSS and Wrye bash to help.

 

Ruined tales is Ruined game because you will crash a lot during his quest.

[Hondur]

Probably crashes are related to memory usage. With all the mods you have (Better Citties, UL, Rathunas), Oblivion is running out of memory very fast. This can explain why when you reload Oblivion before fast traveling it doesn't crash.

 

- Did you use the 4GB patch? It can help to reduce them.

 

- What are your system specs? You should try to install ENBoost, you can get rid definitely of these kind of crashes if you have enough RAM and VRAM.

 

- MoreHeap also can help.

 

- Do you have Oblivion Stutter Remover? Show me your ini.

 

- A mod which purges the memory (PCB mods) can also help you a lot to keep the memory clean.

 

1. I did patch my Oblivion to 4GB

2. My system specs are as follows:

- GPU: 3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti

- Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K

- RAM: 8GB

I have downloaded ENBoost and MoreHeap, I¨ll see how that goes.

3. Which INI would you like me to show, my OSR one or the Oblivion one? In any case, here's both:

Oblivion ini: http://pastebin.com/Bp97cAT7

OSR ini: http://pastebin.com/tbjEJGFA

4. Is there any PCB mod in particular you can recommend me?

Thank you so much for your help!

Edited January 23, 2017 by Hondur

[Hondur]

Also, did you install texture mod like QTP3 improved tree an d flora. If you don't have great machine, you remove them as me. I have a similar mod list and no crashing.

 

Also, you should use BOSS and Wrye bash to help.

 

Ruined tales is Ruined game because you will crash a lot during his quest.

I use both of them, yes. How is it others can use these and not crash so frequently? I listed my specs in my post above, and for Oblivion my specs are quite good?

[bevilex]

Yes your specs are good for Oblivion.

 

I suggest you to change in your OSR.ini:

 

bReplaceHeap = 1

 

 

iHeapSize = 768

 

With ENBoost and your 8GB of RAM you should normally have less crashes. Keep in mind you can't use ENB graphics with ENBoost. If you use ENB you'll have to choose between ENB or ENBoost.

You don't even need a PCB mod with the amount of RAM you have + ENBoost. If you still want one this mod is good:

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/27009/?

[Hondur]

Yes your specs are good for Oblivion.

 

I suggest you to change in your OSR.ini:

 

bReplaceHeap = 1

 

 

iHeapSize = 768

 

With ENBoost and your 8GB of RAM you should normally have less crashes. Keep in mind you can't use ENB graphics with ENBoost. If you use ENB you'll have to choose between ENB or ENBoost.

You don't even need a PCB mod with the amount of RAM you have + ENBoost. If you still want one this mod is good:

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/27009/?

Thank you so much for your suggestions!

I haven't had time to properly sit down and play Oblivion yet, so I can't say for sure if it's a lot more stable or not yet. However, I will report that there's an increase in FPS for me! :D

 

I will report on whether or not stability has improved or not in a couple of days. I did fly around with my dragon mount around the Cheydinhal area, and didn't crash a single time!

[marob307]

If not, you have to remove improved texture and maesh. (qtp3, improved flora etc)

 

even better cities don't use QTP3. I never crash since I did that.

[Hondur]

Hello again,

I can report with great joy that one of the fixes has indeed worked! I will admit, I did try every fix in one go, so I can't pinpoint which one exactly, but my intuition tells me it's changing my OSR.ini. Thank you so much people for helping me out! :)