Crash on load if over level 1

[TheDrunkenMeditator]

For some reason, any time I try to load a save where I'm anywhere over level 1, Skyrim crashes mid-load. I can't make any meaningful progress and I've tried to test each individual mod and i still haven't found the issue.

Processor- Intel i5-6400 @ 2.70GHz Quadcore

RAM- 8GB

Video Card- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070

Using all DLC, and both NMM and LOOT.

Located in the default Steam Skyrim directory.

Launching through SKSE

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Falskaar.esm

7 7 ApachiiHair.esm

8 8 SkyMoMod.esm

9 9 MolagBalsInferno.esm

10 a JSwords.esm

11 b Simplycirclets.esm

12 c WM Flora Fixes.esp

13 d GeneralStores.esm

14 e SkyUI.esp

15 f Animated Dragon Wings.esp

16 10 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

17 11 Castle Draco's High Rrothgar Edition.esp

18 12 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

19 13 JKs Skyrim.esp

20 14 DBERRSanctuary.esp

21 15 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

22 16 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp

23 17 CastleVolkiharImmersive.esp

24 18 Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp

25 19 Dragon Falls Manor.esp

26 1a Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

27 1b CastleGrey.esp

28 1c RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp

29 1d BetterBreezehome.esp

30 1e Undeath.esp

31 1f Coins.esp

32 20 BetterJorrvaskr.esp

33 21 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

34 22 w2salem.esp

35 23 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

36 24 Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp

37 25 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

38 26 hearthfireextended.esp

39 27 Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp

40 28 I5K Treasure Hunt.esp

41 29 Skyrim Unbound.esp

42 2a Hunting in Skyrim.esp

43 2b Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp

44 2c SkullsOfSkyrimBlack.esp

45 2d UniqueSkullsDunlain.esp

46 2e SkullsOfSkyrimCollection.esp

47 2f Dr_Bandolier.esp

48 30 Better Vampires.esp

49 31 LBackpackAll.esp

50 32 Tower Of Skyrim 1.1.esp

51 33 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

52 34 Lightweight Potions and Poisons.esp

53 35 Schools of the Holds.esp

54 36 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

55 37 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp

56 38 DragonHideRobeArmor.esp

57 39 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp

58 3a HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp

59 3b PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

60 3c FableArmor.esp

61 3d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

62 3e OpenFaceHelmets.esp

63 3f imp_helm_legend.esp

64 40 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

65 41 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

66 42 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

67 43 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp

68 44 LightAndHeavyCirclets.esp

69 45 Magicka Sabers.esp

70 46 Masters of Death.esp

71 47 Thanatos Dragonx.esp

72 48 MikanEyes All in one.esp

73 49 Order My Items.esp

74 4a Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp

75 4b plate hoods pack-higher armor.esp

76 4c PS_StandingStones.esp

77 4d RichMerchants.esp

78 4e ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp

79 4f ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp

80 50 d2Helmets.esp

81 51 Essential Blades.esp

82 52 Grandmaster Delphine.esp

83 53 Kickass Esbern.esp

84 54 Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

85 55 retakrew7_soul_gems.esp

86 56 SwordsmansCoat.esp

87 57 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

88 58 Clockwork.esp

89 59 meadery.esp

90 5a TheFrontier.esp

91 5b Uniqueskullsofskyrimred.esp

92 5c Inigo.esp

93 5d SkaalHeavyArmor.esp

94 5e DragonmournInn.esp

95 5f Cloaks.esp

96 60 Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp

97 61 SkullsOfSkyrimGreen.esp

98 62 lakeviewdock1.2.esp

99 63 SilverDragonArmor.esp

100 64 TheDomain.esp

101 65 _pocketempirebuilder.esp

102 66 AdalMatar.esp

103 67 TGenhanced.esp

104 68 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

105 69 SimplyCircletsDistro.esp

106 6a Marriable Serana.esp

107 6b ScopedBows.esp

108 6c Marriable Serana HF.esp

109 6d Deathhound+Gargoyle.esp

110 6e werebeast+lurker+seeker+ashspawn+frostgiant.esp

111 6f Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp

112 70 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp

113 71 Dragon Horns and Tails.esp

114 72 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes_HighSpawn.esp

115 73 TDNEquipableHorns.esp

116 74 AgentOfRighteousMight.esp

117 75 xamnant.esp

118 76 Animated Enchantments.esp

119 77 Tame Beast.esp

120 78 OrsiniumMod.esp

121 79 LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esp

122 7a CaranthirTowerReborn.esp

123 7b SnowElfCompGuild.esp

124 7c RavenCastle.esp

125 7d ForgottenCity.esp

126 7e WheelsOfLull.esp

127 7f Very High Hrothgar - Hardcore.esp

128 80 atticpale.esp

129 81 attichjaarmarch.esp

130 82 DeadlyMutilation.esp

131 83 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

132 84 Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp

133 85 TheEggOfTime.esp

134 86 SNDsoftheNorth.esp

135 87 Honour of the orcs.esp

136 88 atticlakeview.esp

137 89 BooksOfSkyrim.esp

138 8a FalkreathSkyscraper.esp

139 8b ColdharbourDaedra.esp

140 8c summersetisles.esp

141 8d Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

142 8e My Home Is Your Home.esp

143 8f Dwemer Certified.esp

144 90 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

145 91 Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp

146 92 Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp

147 93 DwarvenCenturionCompanion.esp

148 94 FalmerCompanion.esp

149 95 VampireHeavyArmor.esp

150 96 GuildStarter.esp

151 97 Soulmaster Unlimited.esp

152 98 Angelic_Demonic.esp

153 99 Coldharbour.esp

154 9a Eld-combinePotions.esp

155 9b DaedricCrownCraftable.esp

156 9c DragonCrownCraftable.esp

157 9d DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp

158 9e EbonyCrownCraftable.esp

159 9f ElvenCrownCraftable.esp

160 a0 GlassCrownCraftable.esp

161 a1 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp

162 a2 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

163 a3 Dragon Bone Mage Armor.esp

164 a4 DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp

165 a5 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

166 a6 RaceMenu.esp

167 a7 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

[LeddBate]

My first impulse is that you're most likely missing a patch for one or more mods. The mod reaches out for the master file the patch provides and when it doesn't find it, boom, ctd.

 

However, let's try some basic troubleshooting.

 

Make sure your SKSE is up-to-date.

 

Clean mods with TES5Edit. Note: Some mods have intentional dirty edits and "cleaning" them will actually break the mod. Read each mod's description carefully before cleaning.

 

No luck? Let's move on to more advanced troubleshooting. Note: The following is advice from Darstyler. Please give him a kudo if anything here works for you.

 

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Here is a list of things you may do to stabilize your game :

/// Useful informations :

• Dangerous mods list.

• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit very usefull informations concerning CTDs...

• Verify gamecache.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins buttons".

• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.

• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists

/// Settings / memory :

• Have you installed the skse patch ? >> memory blocks log.

• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\Utilisateur\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems.: Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page.
  Start Tes5edit, simply untick everything, (right-click/select none) and add only a tick to the esm/esp you want to check + update.esm, Tesedit knows what to do and will load all the dependencies automatically.
  - Begin with loading only Skyrim + update, ITM / UDR + save ctrl +s and close.
  - Then load Skyrim + update + Dawnguard, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.
  - Then load Skyrim + update + Hearthfire, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.
  - Then load Skyrim + update + Dragonborn, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.

• The method above can be used to clean mods. If I'm correct LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may load all your mods with Tes5edit and use the (right-click in the left pane) apply filter to show conflict losers. Wait till Tes5edit has finished. Caution : don't try to modify anything while using this filter, it's not intended for.

• In the left pane, Expand the subsections and examine conflicts. Once an entry is expanded to the bottom and selected, the right pane shows which mods modify the entry. The last one on the right is the last loaded in your load order and the conflict winner.

• Expand the following subsections, depending on where the problems occur. Cells for CTDs inside buildings, grottos, etc... and worldspace for exterior. The goal is to target mods that edit the same places and conflict. Open the bloc note and write those mods.

• Once done, close Tes5edit and open each mod with Tesedit, one by one and use the UDR cleaning procedure (Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page) to ensure all the deleted references will be transformed in disabled references = no CTDs from this point.

• If you suspect a mod in particular, using the conflict looser / winner method above, you can decide to change its load order or uninstall it.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

[TheDrunkenMeditator]

...I'm trying to understand, but...what? A lot of this stuff is going way over my head.

[snelss0]

Leddbate is giving you a generalized post on how to properly care for your Skyrim. It contains a wealth of information, that if you follow, will likely increase the stability of your game. He thinks primarily that there is a missing patch for one of your mods. Many mods have patches they use to help with compatibility for other mods. Sometimes these are listed on the main page of the mod under the compatibility section, or sometimes it is under the Required section. However, there are times when this isn't the case and it isn't so obvious if you don't read. Expanded Towns and Cities for example, there are a ton of patches on his forum page, but if you didn't carefully read his main page that they were there, you would never know. Perhaps this has happened with one or more of your mods.

 

What I suggest you do, is navigate to the mod page for each of your mods. Make sure on that mod page, you read the required, recommended, compatibility, install sections, as well as briefly look at the Posts and Forums tabs to see if there are any mods that aren't compatible or that there isn't anything extra you need to do with your mods. I'll take a once over your mods and see if I see any irregularities.

[snelss0]

1. My first main concern is your Legacy of the Dragonborn. This mod spiders into just about every aspect of the game. It is a great mod, but it also can conflict with many things. Read very carefully each parcel of information on the mod page. Make sure you have installed the LotDB update file as is needed, and any patches. Make sure you view the compatibility page and don't have any mods that aren't compatible installed.
2. JK's Skyrim is not compatible with NPC overhauling mods. These may include undeath, immersive creatures, and some other of your mods that mess with NPCs. There are youtube videos on how to use TES5edit to find conflicts. I suggest you watch those and see if there is anything conflicting between your worldspaces and those mods.
3. Make sure that your breezehome mod is compatible with JK's Skyrim if you have the whiterun edits from that mod.
4. I'm not sure what Master's of Death is, as I don't use it, but make sure it's compatible with Undeath.
5. I would suggest getting and using Ragdolls and Force, as well as XP32 Maximum Skeleton extended, particularly if using Immersive Creatures. Some mods do not mention that they were created with this skeleton in mind and can cause Crashes. It's always just better to have it installed. XPMSE should go at the bottom of your load order.
6. I suggest getting and using Alternate Start LAL, it not only can let you have the vanilla intro, but can also help your scripts run at starting sequence. This is beneficial not only for stability, but if you need to use the mod for testing such as when you have an issue like you are having, it's good to not repeatably have to sit through the intro over and over.

If none of these changes help you on a new game and your problem persists, I suggest performing a clean install as something may have become corrupted. Here is how to do that: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/906390-cleaning-skyrim-for-fresh-install/

[LeddBate]

Leddbate is giving you a generalized post on how to properly care for your Skyrim. It contains a wealth of information, that if you follow, will likely increase the stability of your game.

 

Thanks, snelss0. Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have hit him with all that right off the bat. Sorry about that TheDrukenMediator. Still, copy that info I gave you from Darstyler and save it as a text file. You can explore the links at your leisure later. It's good advice for advanced troubleshooting and proactively protecting your game against issues.

 

 

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6. I suggest getting and using Alternate Start LAL, it not only can let you have the vanilla intro, but can also help your scripts run at starting sequence. This is beneficial not only for stability, but if you need to use the mod for testing such as when you have an issue like you are having, it's good to not repeatably have to sit through the intro over and over.

 

THIS!

 

Not only is LAL good for troubleshooting, If you have a large (starting) mod list, you're likely to CTD multiple times during the Helgen intro. This is primarily due to it being a heavily scripted sequence. All those mods trying to fire up (especially the script heavy ones) can overload your engine.

 

When using LAL, if you WANT the vanilla intro (so that you create your character first and don't get that jarring interruption to do it during the execution scene) then don't enable your entire mod list. Install, yes. But leave the majority of the mods un-checked in the plug-in tab. Once you complete "Unbound", save, then check all the remaining mods. Load in and give the game several minutes to fire up any and all scripts that the mods introduce. You'll often get notices as it happens (Sounds of Skyrim for example.)

Edited January 23, 2017 by LeddBate