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See the topic description for what happens. Here is my load odrer (I had to grab it with fallout mod manager because nexus mod manager doesn't have this function apparently) if load order isn't the issue could someone tell me what the issue is? I figured out how to make a merged patch and I used master update.

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

CALIBR.esm

CRAFT.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

NecronomiconExMortis 5.6.esm

Apocalypse Armory.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Companion Core.esm

RobCo Certified v2.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

SPECIAL Extended.esm

FOOK2 - Main.ESM

FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM

CRAFT - Workbench and Crafting Expansion combined.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

CRAFT - WCE FOOK+FWE Patch.esp

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

zetabugfix.esp

VATS Normal Weapon Degradation.esp

MaxLevelWorkaround-BS.esp

CASM.esp

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

UPP - Experience Perks.esp

goat_perks.esp

PowerArmorTraining.esp

MrLabTechnician.esp

BlackWolf Backpack.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

NightvisionGoggles(Powered).esp

rockopolisandabandonedtentmapmarker.esp

MaxLevelWorkaround-HP-BS.esp

WastelandMastery.esp

SkillCheck.esp

MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp

DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp

Meresti Metro Station Entrance.esp

MiniHideout.esp

Trophies- Tenpenny.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

Apocalypse Armory.esp

Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp

Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp

Apocalypse Armory - Optional Historical Names.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

Refurbishes [ALL].esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

Apocalypse Armory + WMK.esp

Wattz Laser Weapons Mod.esp

Wattz Laser Pistols Mod.esp

Wattz Laser Non Replacer Mod.esp

NAPA.esp

Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp

CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp

Improved Turret Hacking - BASE.esp

Improved Turret Hacking - BS.esp

Improved Turret Hacking - Pitt.esp

Improved Turret Hacking - PL.esp

Improved Turret Hacking - ALL.esp

Companion Core DLC Addon.esp

Item Descriptions Img.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

ACE2-0.esp

KillableChildren.esp

KillableChildren - MMM.esp

Owned!.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

LED pipboy light.esp

LED pipboy light extended.esp

LED pipboy light amber.esp

LED pipboy light green.esp

LED pipboy light green extended.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

CRAFT - WCE Warmonger Addon.esp

F3UmpaAnimation.esp

RobCo Certified v2 FWE.esp

RobCo Certified v2 Mechanist's Edition.esp

RobCo Certified v2 Zeta Addon.esp

Arwen_XPR.esp

LED pipboy light amber extended.esp

bridge update.esp

RecieveTenpennySuite.esp

Radiation Glow and Mutation 1 eng.esp

CTR Stealth PwrArmor.esp

CTR Stealth v2.1.esp

RWI - Creatures and NPCs.esp

RWI - DLC Addon.esp

RobcoCertified24SideMod.esp

yaDisguisesMod.esp

yaDisguises - FOOK+FWE DLC Patch.esp

yaDisguises - FOOK+FWE.esp

Portable Turrets.esp

SPECIAL Extension - Gun Accuracy.esp

SPECIAL Extension - Health.esp

SPECIAL Extension - Mobility.esp

FOOK2 - Main.esp

FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp

yaDisguisesMod-DLC-Anchorage.esp

yaDisguisesMod-DLC-BrokenSteel.esp

yaDisguisesMod-DLC-ThePitt.esp

MERGEDPATCH.esp

 

Total active plugins: 145

Total plugins: 161

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M48A5 Grand Master

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The main problem, as recounted numerous time in these and other forums, is that FOOK 2 is a very unstable mod. It does not play well with others and usually not at all with FWE. Choose one or the other (I tried FOOK and than went with FWE) than do your merged patch. You will also have to delete any other mods that would rely on the overhaul you delete.
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Agreed on the FOOK2/FWE bit. The two are completely incompatible with one another; you can have one or the other, but not both. As for pipboy lights, I don't think you're supposed to have more than one loaded. Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp, Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp, and Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp are unnecessary if you have Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp loaded. But if you choose to use FOOK2 instead of FWE, you'll need those and to disable the FWE patches.
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modified load order based on your suggestions and created a new merged patch and new master uppdate....but still same issue. Menu screen refuses to load. Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

NecronomiconExMortis 5.6.esm

Apocalypse Armory.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Companion Core.esm

RobCo Certified v2.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

SPECIAL Extended.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

zetabugfix.esp

VATS Normal Weapon Degradation.esp

MaxLevelWorkaround-BS.esp

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

UPP - Experience Perks.esp

goat_perks.esp

PowerArmorTraining.esp

MrLabTechnician.esp

BlackWolf Backpack.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

NightvisionGoggles(Powered).esp

rockopolisandabandonedtentmapmarker.esp

MaxLevelWorkaround-HP-BS.esp

WastelandMastery.esp

SkillCheck.esp

MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp

DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp

Meresti Metro Station Entrance.esp

MiniHideout.esp

Trophies- Tenpenny.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

Apocalypse Armory.esp

Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp

Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp

Apocalypse Armory - Optional Historical Names.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

Refurbishes [ALL].esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

Apocalypse Armory + WMK.esp

Improved Turret Hacking - ALL.esp

Companion Core DLC Addon.esp

RobCo Certified v2 Mechanist's Edition.esp

RobCo Certified v2 Zeta Addon.esp

Arwen_XPR.esp

bridge update.esp

RecieveTenpennySuite.esp

Radiation Glow and Mutation 1 eng.esp

CTR Stealth PwrArmor.esp

CTR Stealth v2.1.esp

Item Descriptions Img.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

ACE2-0.esp

RWI - Creatures and NPCs.esp

RWI - DLC Addon.esp

KillableChildren.esp

KillableChildren - MMM.esp

Owned!.esp

yaDisguisesMod.esp

Portable Turrets.esp

SPECIAL Extension - Gun Accuracy.esp

SPECIAL Extension - Health.esp

SPECIAL Extension - Mobility.esp

yaDisguisesMod-DLC-Anchorage.esp

yaDisguisesMod-DLC-BrokenSteel.esp

yaDisguisesMod-DLC-ThePitt.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

F3UmpaAnimation.esp

RobCo Certified v2 FWE.esp

merged3.esp

 

Total active plugins: 111

Total plugins: 164

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M48A5 Grand Master

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What are your system specs? It could be possible that your system can't run the game properly. Also, disable all your mods and try to start the game. If it runs, exit out and than enable your mods one at a time and see if the game runs. At some point you will come to a mod that crashes the game. This is time intensive, but you have nothing to lose since you can't run the game anyway.
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Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Please re-read Rua's post on these plugins:

 

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp, Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp, and Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp are unnecessary if you have Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp loaded. But if you choose to use FOOK2 instead of FWE, you'll need those and to disable the FWE patches.

By the way: What happens when you start Fo3Edit and let it load all your mods? Does it loads them all without giving any errors? If it does, 1 of your plugins is missing a master (.esm) file upon which it relies. It's the most common reason why Fo3 won't start.

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Missing master usually results in a CTD when starting the game. No main menu is probably an orphan record or a bad list. Example of an orphan record would be a compatibility patch that references a formid that is no longer in the master or has been retasked to a different formtype in the master. Example of a bad list is one that references an orphan record or a formlist with duplicates. My advice is to undo your masterupdate and delete your merged patch. Double-check your mod versions and compatibility patches. After doing that, load your mods one at a time until your main menu does not appear. Or start FO3Edit with your load order and do a check for errors on each. Sometimes this will show a orphaned record. Then start stepping through your lists using MK1 eyeball. Edited by blove
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