peertje Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Hey guys,I hope you guys can help me fix my game, I just spend a few hours downloading and installing mods.The main problem I have is that when I get close to the small ranch in springvale it first loads the cell fine but either straight up ctd's or starts stuttering often flicking between 2 frames.I've looked up other posts with people with the same problem but their fixes don't seem to work for me.Here is my load order, 0 0 Fallout3.esm 1 1 Anchorage.esm 2 2 ThePitt.esm 3 3 StreetLights.esm 4 4 BrokenSteel.esm 5 5 PointLookout.esm 6 6 Zeta.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm 7 7 DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm 8 8 Mart's Mutant Mod.esm 9 9 Project Beauty.esm 10 a EVE.esm 11 b ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm 12 c AWorldOfPainFO3.esm 13 d Alton, IL.esm Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm 14 e FCOMaster.esm 15 f CALIBR.esm 16 10 CRAFT.esm 17 11 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm 18 12 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp 19 13 Traits.esm 20 14 RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm 21 15 New Vegas Trait Pack.esp 22 16 Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp 23 17 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp 24 18 AltonAddon.esp 25 19 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp 26 1a Mart's Mutant Mod.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp 27 1b Fellout-Full.esp 28 1c WeaponModKits.esp 29 1d WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp 30 1e MoreMapMarkers.esp 31 1f FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp 32 20 Realistic Interior Lighting.esp 33 21 TiesThatBind.esp EVE - FWE Master Release.esp EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp 34 22 WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp 35 23 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp 36 24 RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp 37 25 WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp 38 26 Converted Trait Pack.esp 39 27 Fellout-pipboylight.esp 40 28 WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp 41 29 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp 42 2a Fellout-Zeta.esp 43 2b F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp 44 2c WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp 45 2d Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp 46 2e WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp 47 2f Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp 48 30 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp 49 31 bzArmour.esp 50 32 Merge_Patch_00.esp 51 33 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp 52 34 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp 53 35 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp 54 36 RH_FWE_Bridge.esp 55 37 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp 56 38 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp 57 39 RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp 58 3a Fellout-PointLookout.esp 59 3b RH_EVE_Bridge.esp 60 3c Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp 61 3d Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp 62 3e Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp 63 3f Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp 64 40 RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp 65 41 ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp 66 42 Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp 67 43 Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp 68 44 DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp 69 45 Fellout-Anchorage.esp Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp 70 46 FO3_WRP.esp 71 47 Flora Overhaul.esp 72 48 UPP - Pack 1.esp 73 49 UPP - Pack 2.esp 74 4a teslaPA -retextured.esp 75 4b Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp 76 4c Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp 77 4d Dree Perks.esp 78 4e Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp 79 4f DYNAVISION - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp 80 50 Dree Perks Anchorage.esp 81 51 Dree Perks Pitts.esp 82 52 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp 83 53 Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp 84 54 Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp 85 55 megalight.esp 86 56 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp 87 57 Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp 88 58 CALIBRxMerchant.esp 89 59 RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp 90 5a RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp 91 5b RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp 92 5c RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp 93 5d RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp 94 5e RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp I hope you guys can help me fix the problem! Edited January 30, 2017 by peertje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 FAllout3 sucked to mod...very finnicky. You can't just dump 90 mods on it and play. You gotta ease all those mods in there. Install, play, satisfied, next..Know what I mean? The DLCs caused me more headache than mods. Best bet=don't install mods until you are passed the tutorial stages of the beginning of the game.Once you have a nice solid save, begin installing mods, but do the installing in stages of 3-5 at a time rather than all 90 at once. Or you will be fighting the machine the whole way. Remember, the Fallout3 engine is basically the Oblivion engine only more brokeded. Might help to get the June 2012 dx9 web installer, the one with d3d_41 thru d3d_43 dlls for the dx client. (the XP to Vista to 7 dx9 drivers...or Dx10).Remember at all times that you are doing this for fun. Happy gaming. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 What you have posted as a load list looks more like a listing of the mods you have. There is almost nothing in the correct order. I suggest you first uninstall all your mods and start again.  The only one you can leave is StreetLights. That placement is correct.  Where you placed your merged patch is really strange. It should be the last .esp in your load order.  Why do you have a file that is supposed to make the game stable not activated? Why do you have inactive compatibility patches? You need to uninstall any of the inactive plugins. If the file is in the data folder, it will be loaded into memory. You will also need some compatibility patches. I recommend Blackened patches. But you must read the mod descriptions and instructions. This goes for all the mods you have installed.  This is a very good guide for modding Fallout3: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/652876-fallout-3-modding-and-you/ However, you must read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peertje Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Thanks guys, I seem to be going overboard with the modding lately, just installing and immediately modding the s#*! out of the game.In case of the weird load order, because I use so many mods i tend to take a shortcut and use LOOT to fix it, seems it may have some problems.Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017  Hey guys,I hope you guys can help me fix my game, I just spend a few hours downloading and installing mods.The main problem I have is that when I get close to the small ranch in springvale it first loads the cell fine but either straight up ctd's or starts stuttering often flicking between 2 frames.I've looked up other posts with people with the same problem but their fixes don't seem to work for me. Here is my load order, 0 0 Fallout3.esm1 1 Anchorage.esm2 2 ThePitt.esm3 3 StreetLights.esm4 4 BrokenSteel.esm5 5 PointLookout.esm6 6 Zeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm7 7 DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm8 8 Mart's Mutant Mod.esm9 9 Project Beauty.esm10 a EVE.esm11 b ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm12 c AWorldOfPainFO3.esm13 d Alton, IL.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm14 e FCOMaster.esm15 f CALIBR.esm16 10 CRAFT.esm17 11 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm18 12 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp19 13 Traits.esm20 14 RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm21 15 New Vegas Trait Pack.esp22 16 Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp23 17 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp24 18 AltonAddon.esp25 19 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp26 1a Mart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp27 1b Fellout-Full.esp28 1c WeaponModKits.esp29 1d WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp30 1e MoreMapMarkers.esp31 1f FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp32 20 Realistic Interior Lighting.esp33 21 TiesThatBind.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp34 22 WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp35 23 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp36 24 RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp37 25 WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp38 26 Converted Trait Pack.esp39 27 Fellout-pipboylight.esp40 28 WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp41 29 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp42 2a Fellout-Zeta.esp43 2b F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp44 2c WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp45 2d Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp46 2e WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp47 2f Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp48 30 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp49 31 bzArmour.esp50 32 Merge_Patch_00.esp51 33 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp52 34 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp53 35 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp54 36 RH_FWE_Bridge.esp55 37 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp56 38 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp57 39 RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp58 3a Fellout-PointLookout.esp59 3b RH_EVE_Bridge.esp60 3c Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp61 3d Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp62 3e Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp63 3f Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp64 40 RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp65 41 ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp66 42 Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp67 43 Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp68 44 DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp69 45 Fellout-Anchorage.espEnhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp70 46 FO3_WRP.esp71 47 Flora Overhaul.esp72 48 UPP - Pack 1.esp73 49 UPP - Pack 2.esp74 4a teslaPA -retextured.esp75 4b Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp76 4c Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp77 4d Dree Perks.esp78 4e Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp79 4f DYNAVISION - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp80 50 Dree Perks Anchorage.esp81 51 Dree Perks Pitts.esp82 52 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp83 53 Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp84 54 Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp85 55 megalight.esp86 56 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp87 57 Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp88 58 CALIBRxMerchant.esp89 59 RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp90 5a RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp91 5b RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp92 5c RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp93 5d RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp94 5e RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp I hope you guys can help me fix the problem! This load out / order is truthfully Bizarre. :ermm:I guess it's Nmm that is used? and Loot too?Some of the packages contain data meant for use on The mod "fook" there are better ways to do this and still have all you want, and have the tools needs to show you beforehand whats wrong.But I'll wait and see what takes place here. kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) I went ahead and put together "My recommended Tools" for use for this game. It's a list thrown together. I took the opportunity to view your other posts and discovered you have had the same issues in Fo4 as well. But for this game, and I included a a timed download for the sorting templates for Fo3's data base which will expire in an hour. Please take advantage of it.  http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/ajax/downloadfile?id=1000155444http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/ajax/downloadfile?id=1000020909http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/ajax/downloadfile?id=1000012566http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/ajax/downloadfile?id=55885  (https://mega.nz/#!PIgljJZK!e1FazkpJb4rU-6EuzUfwZPrw_zOlpWGqcN-c4IAkS1s) Kitty Black. Edited January 30, 2017 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peertje Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 I went ahead and put together "My recommended Tools" for use for this game. It's a list thrown together. I took the opportunity to view your other posts and discovered you have had the same issues in Fo4 as well. But for this game, and I included a a timed download for the sorting templates for Fo3's data base which will expire in an hour. Please take advantage of it.  http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/ajax/downloadfile?id=1000155444 http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/ajax/downloadfile?id=1000020909 http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/ajax/downloadfile?id=1000012566 http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/ajax/downloadfile?id=55885    (https://mega.nz/#!PIgljJZK!e1FazkpJb4rU-6EuzUfwZPrw_zOlpWGqcN-c4IAkS1s) Kitty Black.Thanks for the tools!I'll see what I can do with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The templates go into the folder Fomm creates in the game folder called "Install Info" , the purpose is to remove the fault of an update search, it will not complain and update it's self correctly. Fomm will then sort your data correctly. If you now have all the tools, I'll remove the link now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peertje Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 The templates go into the folder Fomm creates in the game folder called "Install Info" , the purpose is to remove the fault of an update search, it will not complain and update it's self correctly. Fomm will then sort your data correctly. If you now have all the tools, I'll remove the link now.You can go ahead, I was only missing Mod Organizer.Thanks again, I reinstalled the game and added some of the basic mods using the tools, so thanks again for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017  The templates go into the folder Fomm creates in the game folder called "Install Info" , the purpose is to remove the fault of an update search, it will not complain and update it's self correctly. Fomm will then sort your data correctly. If you now have all the tools, I'll remove the link now.You can go ahead, I was only missing Mod Organizer.Thanks again, I reinstalled the game and added some of the basic mods using the tools, so thanks again for the help. You are most welcome, please Enjoy the game and mods. Kitty Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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