Pale Moon

[TheMastersSon]

If anyone else is looking for a new web browser, so far I've not run into any problems accessing the Nexus or our other regular sites with Pale Moon. It's a software fork based on an older revision of Firefox, and the authors have done a great job at keeping it updated imo:

 

http://www.palemoon.org/

 

We were recently forced to find a new browser, at least for a few of our legimitate email sites, as Mozilla have now promoted themselves to supreme dictator over where Firefox users are permitted to go on the internet. If a site hasn't bothered updating certain certificate info, which quite a few (especially in non-U.S. countries) haven't in our experience, Firefox will no longer load the site. Period. No option to bypass, even in about:config. IMO we can look forward to much more of the same digital totalitarianism in the coming months and years, but in the meantime Pale Moon uses an older Firefox engine with a different library for certificate handling. This older library allows bypassing and adding exceptions etc while the new one doesn't.

 

Time will tell what happens, but currently there appears to be a race to see who can be first to get away with flat-out refusing to take internet users where they wish to go. This would be a necessary first step to reimposing last century's business models (forced advertising, limited site access, throttled bandwidth etc) on internet traffic. I never imagined Mozilla would beat our federal government, Facebook, Microsoft and even Google and our internet upstream providers to the finish line.

Edited February 2, 2017 by TheMastersSon

[montky]

@TheMastersSon

indeed, that was discussed hotly at T.W.i.T since october 2015,

and I've noticed several previous functionalities in Firefox have been put behind pay-walls or removed entirely.

ad-blockers and codecs have been surreptitiously over-written,

and the restore point or roll-back points removed.

Seemingly, still in compliance with 'defeated' CISPA, SOPA, TTP, TTIP, TPP and other supranational instruments...

 

interoperability with other protocols and languages has been declining,

especially for AGIXML/AIXML batching etc.

I used to be able to have my own AIXML and widgets for my 'dashboard',

and re-configure the visuals for my browser

to have more RSS live feeds, various google keyword alert as color coded ticker- etc.

I could also see when various turn-around decompiling would complete, which was GREAT

for collab stuff, as I could do it all from one firefox UI;

VOIP, "borg it", cross-reference, you name it. It was very amenable to multi-tasking and user-customisation.

This allowed me to post to multiple different places at once,

virtually simultaneously, though with different messages...

and to avoid lengthy cross-posting fatigue etc.

It was AWESOME!

 

Now, at present, if I were to attempt to do that,

and say, post across various languages and different sites simultaneously,

or scrape and cross-collate or cross-comparatively parse data;

the 'digital signatures' would indicate to third parties,

I would seem to be a 'spam-bot'. But, I'm clearly a person...

it's just I'm using similar techniques to eliminate cross-posting fatigue.

Imagine all that hassle of having to go to all those different sites manually,

physically log in to each one, load the pages,

type, check, type...

log out. check back...

 

thank you for putting palemoon on the horizon.

several other options are also emerging.

the non-"social media" ones are VERY appealing.

 

Pale Moon's UI doesn't look as friendly though,

and several key routines in AGIXML etc are not yet able to be implemented interoperably with

Pale Moon...

 

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to your tangent,

indeed, it seems a lot of folks are gearing towards a

pay-per-interval and pay-per-page system... from the OS level up.

on a "do it, or be bricked" basis.

want to read x,y,z document or mesh? safe assign and third parties will check that.

you know, for safety and infudgement purposes.

gotta pay per use on software, living agreements mean folks can't 'own' anything, and EULA's/ToS's a mile long...

with additional whitelisting and blacklisting etc...

 

I do very much appreciate the term "digital fascism".

this all makes openGNU and share-alike or other arrangements seem much more appealing.

As so much of our 'free time' selves are now digital-based,

restricting that or altering with that and delineating or demarcating that seems affronting.

 

anywho, I digress

I hope we'll discuss a lot of this more in futures!

thanks again Master's Son.

[Deleted2433418User]

I agree with the OP.. seems Censorship and all the other things aligned to Fascism is the "New Black" for I-net companies.. i use Opera.. it is fully compatible with any and all services on the net and to booth it has built in VPN.. i highly recommend it only problem i´ve had since closing all my Google and assorted "Social media" accounts is that debating online is downright impossible without either FB,Twitter or other assorted sites with a strict Censorship policy.. ah,well,it keeps the bloodpressure down ;-)