Just some help with and verification of Load Order

[MRELEKTRIK]

I haven't really modded since Oblivion and Morrowind days, and have tragically forgotten a lot of what I have learned about load order from chatting with modders like Brumbek, Vurt, and others many years ago now. So I have watched many videos on TES5Edit, TesLodgen, and Bodyslide, Cleaned my Skyrim Main files, and have begun modding. The game runs fine save for the first load CTD(1-2) on startup which I have read is fairly normal with ENB's which I am now switching to Vividian Weathers ENB since I really like it's compatible with COT5. Though have not installed it yet. Watching that video now. I was just hoping to post my Load order and see if people think it looks okay, cause it has seemed to work fine with my pc specs and setup(I will Post my pc specs as well) since I know all load orders will look a tiny bit different for others. So here it is.

 

Mod List Load Order:

 

 

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-Skyrim.esm
-Update.esm
-Dawnguard.esm
-HearthFires.esm
-Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp(NMM warning plugin file extension .esp, fileheader marks as .esm)
-Lanterns of Skyrim-All in One-Main.esm
-hdtHighHeel.esm
-ClimatesofTamriel.esm
-ClimatesofTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
-ClimatesofTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
-Brawl Bugs CE.esp
-SMIM-Merged-All.esp
-Vivid Landscapes.esp
-Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguar-Dragonborn.esp(not sure if I should uninstall this now that I am using a new enb, then install later if facing too dark of dungeons.)
-SkyUI.esp
-Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp
-FNIS.esp
-dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force-Realistic.esp
-XPMSE.esp
-FNISSexyMove.esp
-PrettyMotionMCM.esp
-ASX-Spells.esp(stupid and funny adult mod, but hey, who doesn't want test out animations)
-Dual Sheath Redux.esp
-RaceMenu.esp
-RaceMenuPlugin.esp
-RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
-AlyeidPalaceNew.esp
-Remodeled Armor-Vanilla Replacer.esp
-Remodeled Armor-Vanilla Replacer-Dawnguard.esp
-Remodeled Armor-Vanilla Replacer-Dragonborn.esp
-Remodeled Armor-Underwear.esp
-DragonPlateBrazen.esp
-Fachry Pandora Follower.esp
-Tanya.esp(follower)
-RosaFollower.esp
-TheEyesofBeauty.esp
-KS Hairdos-HDT.esp(I had no idea you create physics extensions, had to try them)
-Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
-Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
-Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
-Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

This has been configured by the LOOT tool and adjusted based on Mod Authors instructions and based on my previous knowledge of modding. Though that was a long time ago now. I am also installing Realistic Water Two and it's ENB textures, Vividian Weather and Lighting Enhancement 7 The ENB version as well as Vivid Clouds and Fogs. I was also going to use Skyrim Flora Overhaul and SFO Billboards but when I was using it last, some areas would give me infinite loading screens and I decided it might too intensive with all the other mods I have as well. If anyone could give me some advice on whether this looks like an okay Load Order and where I might want to place the Vividian esp's.I have tested the game with other ENB's and all the mods listed and everything seems to run fine( I played for at least 4 hours straight with no crashes except with the infinte load time of SFO I was experiencing) but I just wanted to be thorough and careful and get a second opinion on it.

 

My PC specs may not be important to too much of a degree but I wanted to be sure others thought it fully capable of running this setup since it's been a long time since I have modded a game.

 

Specs

 

 

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MotherBoard-Asus Sabertooth Z87
CPU-Core i7 4770k
Ram-G. Skills Trident 1866 32GB
GPU's-EVGA GTX 780 3GB in SLI
HDD- WD Velociraptor 1TB 10,000rpm

 

 

Only wondering cause all this stuff is 3 years old now and not really top tier anymore what with 1080's and SSD's, plus the Sabertooth only runs two gpu's @x8.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot how to hide things so I hid all the info into spoilers.

Edited February 21, 2017 by MRELEKTRIK

[MRELEKTRIK]

Also If someone thinks I might have issues, if need be I have two saves from the beginning of the game that are completely unmodded which I can switch back to.

[iXenite]

Did you use LOOT to sort your load order? If not - you should look into it as it will solve most peoples load orders just fine. That's assuming of course nothing is seriously wrong. I recall that the lanterns mod wants to be sorted above the Unofficial Patch due to some changes they make. Other than that, your load order isn't all that complicated so it seems like it will be okay to me.

 

LOOT:

https://loot.github.io/

[MRELEKTRIK]

I have used LOOt. Everything seems fine. I adjusted things a tiny bit based on my now somewhat limited knowledge from the old days. I just wanted to get some other opinions since it has been so long since I have done any modding.

[MRELEKTRIK]

I have made some changes to my load order based on the sticky thread on the support page, felt I should read that thoroughly and came out with a new load order. I also wanted to ask where animations and skeletons should fit into load order groups.

 

New Load Order:

 

 

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm
7 7 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
10 a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
11 b Brawl Bugs CE.esp
12 c Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp
13 d SkyUI.esp
14 e Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp
15 f RaceMenu.esp
16 10 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
17 11 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
18 12 FNIS.esp
19 13 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
20 14 XPMSE.esp
21 15 FNISSexyMove.esp
22 16 ASX_Spells.esp
23 17 PrettyMotionMCM.esp
24 18 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
25 19 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
26 1a Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
27 1b SMIM-Merged-All.esp
28 1c Vivid Landscapes.esp
29 1d RealisticWaterTwo.esp
30 1e RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
31 1f AyleidPalaceNEW.esp
32 20 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
33 21 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
34 22 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
35 23 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
36 24 DragonPlateBrazen.esp
37 25 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
38 26 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
39 27 Fachry Pandora Follower.esp
40 28 Tanya.esp
41 29 RosaFollower.esp
42 2a TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
43 2b Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

[Algabar]

Hmm, so no Vividian? I don't use it anymore (switched to the "Vivid weathers" package by the same author), but if I remember right, Vividian has some esp files and compatibility patches (among others for "Lanterns of Skyrim"). Just wondering, because I don't see anything like that now.

 

I can't find anything obviously wrong with your load order. Only thing I'd recommend to change: FNIS and XPMSE should be as low as possible in your load order. AFAIK, the DS patch should come last, so I'd suggest FNIS, XPMSE, DS patch (in this order) as end of your load order. For "Wearable lanterns", I think there's a compatibility patch for SMIM. Maybe check this out?

 

As for SFO: The 2.5 versions seem to be very stable. So maybe worth giving it another try? It's definitely an excellent mod. If you install the billboards, you should rebuild your LOD objects. Easiest way is the "Lodgen" plugin for TES5Edit. If you want the deluxe version, try "Dyndolod". Looks fantastic - and isn't half as hard to hanlde, as many people think.

 

Anyway - good luck on your journeys through Skyrim!

Edited February 21, 2017 by Algabar

[MRELEKTRIK]

Should Realistic Ragdoll Force also go down in the load order with those? This is my Load Order since I have installed Vividian. I haven't adjusted anything else yet. Also I do have the SMIM patch for Wearable Lanterns installed but there doesn't seem to be an esp file in plugins for it. Is that normal?

 

 

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm
7 7 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
10 a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
11 b Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
12 c Brawl Bugs CE.esp
13 d Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp
14 e SkyUI.esp
15 f Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp
16 10 RaceMenu.esp
17 11 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
18 12 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
19 13 FNIS.esp
20 14 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
21 15 XPMSE.esp
22 16 FNISSexyMove.esp
23 17 ASX_Spells.esp
24 18 PrettyMotionMCM.esp
25 19 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
26 1a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
27 1b Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
28 1c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
29 1d RealisticWaterTwo.esp
30 1e RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
31 1f Vividian - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp
32 20 Vividian - Torches Preset.esp
33 21 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp
34 22 Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp
35 23 Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
36 24 Vivid Landscapes.esp
37 25 AyleidPalaceNEW.esp
38 26 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
39 27 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
40 28 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
41 29 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
42 2a DragonPlateBrazen.esp
43 2b Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
44 2c Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
45 2d Fachry Pandora Follower.esp
46 2e Tanya.esp
47 2f RosaFollower.esp
48 30 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
49 31 Vividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.esp
50 32 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

Edited February 21, 2017 by MRELEKTRIK

[Algabar]

  On 2/21/2017 at 4:52 PM, MRELEKTRIK said:

Should Realistic Ragdoll Force also go down in the load order with those? This is my Load Order since I have installed Vividian. I haven't adjusted anything else yet. Also I do have the SMIM patch for Wearable Lanterns installed but there doesn't seem to be an esp file in plugins for it. Is that normal?

You can leave Realistic Ragdoll Force, where it's now. Just move FNIS and XPMSE. The SMIM patch for "Wearable Lanterns" could be just a changed esp. TBH, I don't use "Wearbale Lanterns" ATM, so I can't check in my game. But if the patch is installed, it should be okay.

[MRELEKTRIK]

I have installed Vividian and now when I try to load my last save which was made before install, I get a warning saying this rave relies on Vividian extended weathers.esp even though I am using the CoT compatible version. I load up the game anyway thinking it may just be an error but the game crashes within a few seconds after loading in. I have a clean save to revert to if need be.

 

This is the load order with Vividian installed:

 

 

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm
7 7 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
10 a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
11 b Brawl Bugs CE.esp
12 c Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp
13 d SkyUI.esp
14 e Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp
15 f RaceMenu.esp
16 10 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
17 11 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
18 12 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
19 13 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
20 14 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
21 15 Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
22 16 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
23 17 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
24 18 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
25 19 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp
26 1a Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
27 1b Vivid Landscapes.esp
28 1c AyleidPalaceNEW.esp
29 1d Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
30 1e Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
31 1f Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
32 20 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
33 21 DragonPlateBrazen.esp
34 22 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
35 23 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
36 24 Fachry Pandora Follower.esp
37 25 Tanya.esp
38 26 RosaFollower.esp
39 27 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
40 28 Vividian - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp
41 29 Vividian - Torches Preset.esp
42 2a Vividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.esp
43 2b Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp
44 2c Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
45 2d FNIS.esp
46 2e XPMSE.esp
47 2f FNISSexyMove.esp
48 30 ASX_Spells.esp
49 31 PrettyMotionMCM.esp
50 32 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

[snelss0]

I would suggest you move your brawlbugs fix down lower and don't have any mods come after xpmse except Dual Sheath Redux Patch (unless LOOT sorts it there). Also, I'd suggest downloading Alternate Start. It can help you load in your game and is a nice tool for modding. If you want a vanilla start, you can do that through the mod.