DarkAnsem Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I wonder how many actually "named" items are associated with evil, and I'd like to know more. POSSIBLE SPOILER so far we have Grond: the Hammer of the Underworld, Morgoth's MaceIron Crown: Morgoth's Crown, once with the 3 Silmarils, now turned into his chainThe One Ring: well, no need to explain here :DMorgul Knife: the Witch-King's trademark weapon do you know more? please tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Are you asking about mods? I know there is a Witch-king helmet, a of Sauron armour, and a suit of nazgûl armour. Also, this should be in the General Mod Talk sub-forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoots7 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Are you asking about mods? I know there is a Witch-king helmet, a of Sauron armour, and a suit of nazgûl armour. Also, this should be in the General Mod Talk sub-forum.He's not talking about mods, he wants to discuss The Lord Of The Rings.One thing that comes to mind is that in the Silmarillion, the evil one (Mankor?) is dominant over the other ones in his song & though Tolkien says his stories are not allegory but this falls in line with the Biblical view of Satan being the Arch angel, related to music & song. That’s probably all I can say without crossing the line (no religious discussions rule).Moderators: Please accept my apologies & delete if you feel this does cross the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 He's not talking about mods, he wants to discuss The Lord Of The Rings.Oh, ok. Also, It's Melkor. In that case, there really aren't many weapons. The entire story had three main bad guys: Morgoth (Melkor), Sauron, and the Witch-king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris 07 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dont forget the evil white wizard Sauraman!!! :thumbsup: So i suppose his wand (or should i say staff?) and sword should be considered evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAnsem Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 saruman's sword? now that's new for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris 07 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 He has one, just doesnt use it. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Dont forget the evil white wizard Sauraman!!! :thumbsup: So i suppose his wand (or should i say staff?) and sword should be considered evil.I don't consider him a real villain. He never accomplished anything. Morgoth created evil, so he's quite obviously a great bad guy. Sauron got the closest to world domination (even though he was far less powerful then Morgoth; he just had more realistic goals), so he's in. Although he didn't do as much as Morgoth or Sauron, the Witch-king destroyed the great kingdom of Arnor which deserves some recognition. Saruman...what did he do? He failed to take Helms Deep, failed to defend Isengard, and to add insult to injury, he was killed by the second weakest character, Wormtongue (only Gollum is worse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris 07 Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 He's still an important icon in the evil side ninja...and he did manage to create a new evil race, and a big army of them too. Thats quite a feat. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoots7 Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Dont forget the evil white wizard Sauraman!!! :thumbsup: So i suppose his wand (or should i say staff?) and sword should be considered evil.I don't consider him a real villain. He never accomplished anything. Morgoth created evil, so he's quite obviously a great bad guy. Sauron got the closest to world domination (even though he was far less powerful then Morgoth; he just had more realistic goals), so he's in. Although he didn't do as much as Morgoth or Sauron, the Witch-king destroyed the great kingdom of Arnor which deserves some recognition. Saruman...what did he do? He failed to take Helms Deep, failed to defend Isengard, and to add insult to injury, he was killed by the second weakest character, Wormtongue (only Gollum is worse).Yea, I think you pretty much nailed it Ninja, loved what you said about Sauron “ he just had more realistic goals” lol.Hey I don't remember Saruman ever carrying a sword either.Gandalf had Glamdring but what was Saruman's sword called?EDIT:Saruman did have a knife that he stabbed Frodo (poor Frodo got stabbed a lot) with right before Worntongue turned on him & stabbed him dead @ the Shire.He's still an important icon in the evil side ninja...and he did manage to create a new evil race, and a big army of them too. Thats quite a feat. :thumbsup:Ok I'll give him that, but what did he do with them? He blew it.He even changed his name to Sharkey & couldn't even rule over the Shire, that's pitiful man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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