darksoldier217 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I posted here a few weeks ago... someone told me to use BOSS to try sorting load order and to clean my mods, and it worked beautifully!!! for a time. Now, not sure what is different or what happened in the background, but the choppiness is back, and I haven't so much as touched the mods since I got it working again. Attached, please see my load order and tell me what I'm doing wrong; please! Why does this keep happening?! Any ideas? Similar problems? Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 GTAesgaard_2.esm 02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 03 CM Partners.esm 04 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36] 05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.4a] 06 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36] 07 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 08 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.8] 0B All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36] 0C Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 0D OblivionReloaded.esp 0E WindowLightingSystem.esp 0F Blackmarket.esp 10 AddMapMarkers.esp 11 DLCHorseArmor.esp 12 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 13 DLCOrrery.esp 14 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 15 DLCVileLair.esp 16 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 17 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 18 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 19 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp [Version 1.0] 1A DLCSpellTomes.esp 1B DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 1C Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp 1D Immersive Weapons.esp 1E Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp 1F LevelerCheat.esp 20 DLCThievesDen.esp 21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.14] 22 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13] 23 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp [Version 1.0] 24 Arena Girl.esp 25 Dalls_Merchant.esp 26 Gianna.esp 27 goldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.esp 28 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0] 29 Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp 2A Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp 2B GTAesgaard.esp [Version 1.3] 2C GTAesgaard_2.esp 2D Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0] 2E One Stop Armors.esp 2F Sno_DarkClub.esp [Version 1.0] 30 Tamriel Rare Traders.esp 31 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4.1] 32 24hourArena.esp [Version 1.1] 33 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 34 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 35 DLCFrostcrag.esp 36 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 37 TOTF.esp 38 HoarfrostCastle.esp 39 MannimarcoComplete.esp 3A DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.2.6] 3B HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.5] 3C Sounds of Cyrodiil - HOTD Add-on.esp [Version 1.0] 3D Better Dungeons.esp 3E GMArcheryRebalance.esp [Version 1.0] 3F HideHelms.esp 40 ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 41 StrongerAllies.esp 42 Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp 43 Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp 44 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] 45 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0] 46 Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0] 47 Encumbrance100.esp 48 EnchantmentMastery.esp 49 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b] 4A SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90] 4B SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90] 4C MidasSpells.esp 4D FasterArrows150.esp 4E Magicka Regen x4.esp 4F EnchantmentRestore.esp 50 Faster Level Up x4.esp 51 JCN_AV Uncap.esp [Version 1.01] 52 All+5AttributeModifiers.esp 53 Faster Magic Levelling.esp 54 CreeperJones.esp 55 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] 56 All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp 57 1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp 58 300ft crime detection-7319.esp 59 Improved Athletics Leveling X25.esp 5A ALAWEN ESSENTIAL.esp 5B DKTrainingGuide.esp 5C Magic Skill Perks.esp 5D Unlimited Training.esp 5E No weapon or armor decay.esp 5F Arcane university access cheat-2328.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Make sure you are running BOSS from within Wrye Bash (icon is in the lower left corner of the Wrye Bash window). Also, where is your bashed patch? What is WB reporting for your percent towards A-Bomb for your latest save? How many saves do you have currently in your saves folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoldier217 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I don't have a bashed patch... I never really understood what they did, and I always got warning boxes afterward and couldn't figure out what was going on. Could that be my issue? When I make a bashed patch, do I turn off the patches that were combined and only run the bashed patch instead of say the ten it came from? My A-Bomb percentage is only about 3.4%. I have roughly 64 files in my save folder (32 separate saves)... maybe excessive there too? Lol, thank you so much for your input... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoldier217 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 UPDATE: I looked up a youtube video about how to create a bashed patch and made one, but not really any significant performance difference. I also reset my A Bomb counter to 0 and deleted a majority of the saves in the folder (backing them up first, of course). Last time, this seemed to have been solved purely by load order rearrangement, but I'm almost certain I haven't touched anything since I got it working last time (didn't want to endure this frustration again ARGH). Here is the youtube video I watched to make sure it wasn't bad info... Also, my "new" load order is down below. BOSS says I don't really have dirty edits (I scrubbed every mod last time this happened) and I trust it's sorting; I used LOOT a while back and that royally messed up everything. My only other thought is maybe Oblivion Reloaded? I've been playing with the .ini to make my game look better (and to get rid of some of the features I wasn't keen on), but I don't see why it would cause such a performance hit (even my mouse is slowed down on the title screen and main menu). Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 GTAesgaard_2.esm 02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 03 CM Partners.esm 04 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36] 05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.4a] 06 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36] 07 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 08 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.8] 0B All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36] 0C Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 0D OblivionReloaded.esp 0E WindowLightingSystem.esp 0F Blackmarket.esp 10 AddMapMarkers.esp 11 DLCHorseArmor.esp 12 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 13 DLCOrrery.esp 14 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 15 DLCVileLair.esp 16 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 17 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 18 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 19 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp [Version 1.0] 1A DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 1B Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp 1C Immersive Weapons.esp 1D Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp 1E LevelerCheat.esp 1F DLCThievesDen.esp 20 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.14] 21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13] 22 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp [Version 1.0] 23 Arena Girl.esp 24 Dalls_Merchant.esp 25 Gianna.esp 26 goldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.esp 27 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0] 28 Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp 29 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp 2A GTAesgaard.esp [Version 1.3] 2B GTAesgaard_2.esp 2C Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0] 2D One Stop Armors.esp 2E Sno_DarkClub.esp [Version 1.0] 2F Tamriel Rare Traders.esp 30 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4.1] 31 24hourArena.esp [Version 1.1] 32 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 33 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 34 DLCFrostcrag.esp 35 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 36 Knights.esp ** Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] 37 TOTF.esp 38 HoarfrostCastle.esp 39 MannimarcoComplete.esp 3A DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.2.6] 3B HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.5] 3C Sounds of Cyrodiil - HOTD Add-on.esp [Version 1.0] 3D Better Dungeons.esp 3E GMArcheryRebalance.esp [Version 1.0] 3F HideHelms.esp ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 40 StrongerAllies.esp ++ Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp ++ Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp 41 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] 42 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0] ++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0] 43 Encumbrance100.esp 44 EnchantmentMastery.esp 45 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b] 46 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90] 47 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90] 48 MidasSpells.esp 49 FasterArrows150.esp 4A Magicka Regen x4.esp 4B EnchantmentRestore.esp ++ EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp ++ Faster Level Up x4.esp 4C JCN_AV Uncap.esp [Version 1.01] 4D All+5AttributeModifiers.esp ++ Faster Magic Levelling.esp 4E CreeperJones.esp 4F Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] 50 All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp 51 1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp 52 300ft crime detection-7319.esp ++ Improved Athletics Leveling X2.esp ++ Improved Athletics Leveling X3.esp ++ Improved Athletics Leveling X5.esp ++ Improved Athletics Leveling X10.esp ++ Improved Athletics Leveling X25.esp ++ ALAWEN ESSENTIAL.esp 53 DKTrainingGuide.esp 54 Magic Skill Perks.esp 55 Unlimited Training.esp 56 No weapon or armor decay.esp 57 Arcane university access cheat-2328.esp 58 Bashed Patch, 0.esp === Current Bash Tags: * Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp * From Description: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats * Result: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats * All Natural.esp * From Description: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * Result: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp * From Description: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats * Result: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats * All Natural - SI.esp * From Description: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * Result: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp * From Description: Sound * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Sound * Result: Sound * DLCHorseArmor.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Scripts * Result: Scripts * DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp * From Description: C.Owner * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: C.Owner * Result: C.Owner * DLCOrrery.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.AIPackages * Result: Actors.AIPackages * DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp * From Description: Graphics * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Graphics * Result: Graphics * DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp * From Description: Delev, Invent, Relev * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Delev, Invent, Relev * Result: Delev, Invent, Relev * DLCSpellTomes.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Relev * Result: Relev * DLCThievesDen.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Name * Result: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Name * DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp * From Description: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev * Result: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev * Kvatch Rebuilt.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.AIPackages, Invent * Result: Actors.AIPackages, Invent * Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp * From Description: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * Result: C.Climate, MustBeActiveIfImported * DLCFrostcrag.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions * Result: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions * DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp * From Description: Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.ACBS, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood * Result: Actors.ACBS, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood * Knights.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations * Result: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations * Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp * From Description: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations * Result: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations * HoarfrostCastle.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Hair * Result: Hair * DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp * From Description: Actors.AIPackages * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.AIPackages * Result: Actors.AIPackages * HeartOftheDead.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Actors.AIPackages, Hair * Result: Actors.AIPackages, Hair * Better Dungeons.esp * From Description: C.Light, C.Water * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: C.Light, C.Water * Result: C.Light, C.Water * StrongerAllies.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Invent * Result: Invent * SupremeMagicka.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Graphics, Names * Result: Graphics, Names * MidasSpells.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Invent * Result: Invent * Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp * From LOOT Masterlist and or userlist: Eyes, NpcFaces, R.Head, R.Mouth * Result: Eyes, NpcFaces, R.Head, R.Mouth Oblivion Reloaded ini, just in case. ; Keycodes. Use the "Dec" value from the list below. ; Hex Dec Button ; 0x01 1 Escape ; 0x02 2 1 ; 0x03 3 2 ; 0x04 4 3 ; 0x05 5 4 ; 0x06 6 5 ; 0x07 7 6 ; 0x08 8 7 ; 0x09 9 8 ; 0x0A 10 9 ; 0x0B 11 0 ; 0x0C 12 Minus ; 0x0D 13 Equals ; 0x0E 14 Backspace ; 0x0F 15 Tab ; 0x10 16 Q ; 0x11 17 W ; 0x12 18 E ; 0x13 19 R ; 0x14 20 T ; 0x15 21 Y ; 0x16 22 U ; 0x17 23 I ; 0x18 24 O ; 0x19 25 P ; 0x1A 26 Left Bracket ; 0x1B 27 Right Bracket ; 0x1C 28 Enter ; 0x1D 29 Left Control ; 0x1E 30 A ; 0x1F 31 S ; 0x20 32 D ; 0x21 33 F ; 0x22 34 G ; 0x23 35 H ; 0x24 36 J ; 0x25 37 K ; 0x26 38 L ; 0x27 39 Semicolon ; 0x28 40 Apostrophe ; 0x29 41 ~ (Console) ; 0x2A 42 Left Shift ; 0x2B 43 Back Slash ; 0x2C 44 Z ; 0x2D 45 X ; 0x2E 46 C ; 0x2F 47 V ; 0x30 48 B ; 0x31 49 N ; 0x32 50 M ; 0x33 51 Comma ; 0x34 52 Period ; 0x35 53 Forward Slash ; 0x36 54 Right Shift ; 0x37 55 NUM* ; 0x38 56 Left Alt ; 0x39 57 Spacebar ; 0x3A 58 Caps Lock ; 0x3B 59 F1 ; 0x3C 60 F2 ; 0x3D 61 F3 ; 0x3E 62 F4 ; 0x3F 63 F5 ; 0x40 64 F6 ; 0x41 65 F7 ; 0x42 66 F8 ; 0x43 67 F9 ; 0x44 68 F10 ; 0x45 69 Num Lock ; 0x46 70 Scroll Lock ; 0x47 71 NUM7 ; 0x48 72 NUM8 ; 0x49 73 NUM9 ; 0x4A 74 NUM- ; 0x4B 75 NUM4 ; 0x4C 76 NUM5 ; 0x4D 77 NUM6 ; 0x4E 78 NUM+ ; 0x4F 79 NUM1 ; 0x50 80 NUM2 ; 0x51 81 NUM3 ; 0x52 82 NUM0 ; 0x53 83 NUM. ; 0x57 87 F11 ; 0x58 88 F12 ; 0x9C 156 NUM Enter ; 0x9D 157 Right Control ; 0xB5 181 NUM/ ; 0xB8 184 Right Alt ; 0xC7 199 Home ; 0xC8 200 Up Arrow ; 0xC9 201 PgUp ; 0xCB 203 Left Arrow ; 0xCD 205 Right Arrow ; 0xCF 207 End ; 0xD0 208 Down Arrow ; 0xD1 209 PgDown ; 0xD2 210 Insert ; 0xD3 211 Delete ; 0x100 256 Left Mouse Button ; 0x101 257 Right Mouse Button ; 0x102 258 Middle/Wheel Mouse Button ; 0x103 259 Mouse Button 3 ; 0x104 260 Mouse Button 4 ; 0x105 261 Mouse Button 5 ; 0x106 262 Mouse Button 6 ; 0x107 263 Mouse Button 7 ; 0x108 264 Mouse Wheel Up ; 0x109 265 Mouse Wheel Down [Main] FoV = 90.0 WaterReflectionMapSize = 512 WaterManagement = 1 AnisotropicFilter = 8 FarPlaneDistance = 283840.0 ScreenshotPath = \Screenshots ScreenshotType = 1 ScreenshotKey = 87 FPSOverlay = 0 ShaderProfile = 7 CustomEffects = 0 FrameRate = 1 SaveSettings = 0 CombatMode = 0 CameraMode = 0 EquipmentMode = 0 SleepingMode = 0 GrassMode = 1 [FrameRate] Average = 30 Gap = 3 Delay = 10 FadeStep = 0.5 FadeMinObjects = 10 FadeMinActors = 15 GridStep = 2 GridMin = 5 [CameraMode] HUDReticle = 2 ChasingFirst = 0 ChasingThird = 0 OffsetX = 0.0 OffsetY = 15.0 OffsetZ = 4.0 NearDistanceFirst = 2.0 NearDistanceThird = 10.0 DialogFirst = 1 DialogThird = 2 DialogOffsetX = 50.0 DialogOffsetY = -10.0 DialogOffsetZ = 10.0 [EquipmentMode] ShieldOnBackPosX = -10.0 ShieldOnBackPosY = 0.0 ShieldOnBackPosZ = -20.0 ShieldOnBackRotX = 0.0 ShieldOnBackRotY = 270.0 ShieldOnBackRotZ = 30.0 WeaponOnBackPosX = 6.0 WeaponOnBackPosY = -30.0 WeaponOnBackPosZ = 2.0 WeaponOnBackRotX = 15.0 WeaponOnBackRotY = 5.0 WeaponOnBackRotZ = 0.0 [SleepingMode] Rest = 0 RestMessage = You must be in a bed to rest. [Shaders] EnableWater = 0 EnableGrass = 1 EnablePrecipitations = 0 EnableHDR = 1 EnablePOM = 1 EnableSkin = 1 EnableTerrain = 1 EnableBlood = 0 EnableShadows = 1 EnableNightEye = 0 [Effects] EnableUnderwater = 1 EnableWaterLens = 1 EnableGodRays = 0 EnableDepthOfField = 0 EnableAmbientOcclusion = 1 EnableColoring = 0 EnableCinema = 0 EnableBloom = 1 EnableSnowAccumulation = 1 EnableBloodLens = 1 EnableMotionBlur = 0 EnableLowHF = 0 EnableWetWorld = 0 EnableSharpening = 0 EnableSMAA = 0 [Menu] Font = Calibri TextColorNormal = 180,180,180 TextShadowColorNormal = 50,50,50 TextColorSelected = 255,255,255 TextShadowColorSelected = 50,50,50 TextColorEditing = 255,100,50 TextShadowColorEditing = 50,50,50 TextSize = 22 TitleX = 60 TitleY = 120 TitleRect = 800 X = 80 Y = 160 Rect = 250 ExtraRect = 50 RowSpace = 4 RowsPerPage = 30 KeyEnable = 24 KeyUp = 200 KeyDown = 208 KeyLeft = 203 KeyRight = 205 KeyPageUp = 201 KeyPageDown = 209 KeyAdd = 78 KeySubtract = 74 KeySave = 28 KeyEditing = 156 StepValue = 0.1 Decimals = 4 [LowHFSound] EnableHealth = 1 EnableFatigue = 1 HealthCoeff = 0.5 FatigueCoeff = 0.5 [Purger] Enabled = 1 Time = 300 PurgeTextures = 1 PurgeCells = 1 Key = 88 [Develop] CompileShaders = 0 CompileEffects = 0 TraceShaders = 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) The only points I'd like to comment on about the video on are I personally like to have Lock Load Order turned on in Wrye Bash, as it makes life easier for me as I also create/edit mods using the Construction Set, which will change my load order when I save my edits to mods using the CS. Oblivion uses a simple system of file date and time to control load order. When the game starts it uses the date and time on all the ESMs and loads them from oldest to newest, and then loads all the ESPs the same way, from oldest to newest. BOSS just assigns file dates and times according to the order it has in it's master list, and WB displays your load order the same way when you select to have it display by load order. Without Lock Load Order set in WB if I edit a mod then it will automatically move to the very bottom of my load order because it will now have today's date and time from when I saved my edits. That means I'll need to run BOSS before I can rebuild my bashed patch. With Lock Load Order turned on in WB after I edit a mod and start WB it will reset the edited mod's date and time to what was assigned by BOSS the last time I ran BOSS, so I can immediately move on to rebuilding my bashed patch (so it saves me one step in each edit mod/test mod cycle). The other point is in changing the options for rebuilding your bashed patch. The video author mentions it, but I'd like to reinforce the message ... use the defaults for the bashed patch settings except for specific things you need to change for your own particular situation. Before you customize the bashed patch options make sure you understand what and why you are changing. Also a good idea to keep notes so you know exactly what to change back when/if you muck things up. Don't use Oblivion Reloaded myself because my machine won't handle it (in my opinion ... quite possible that certain pieces of OR would work fine but I have no burning need to devote the time and energy required to find out what can and can't work). I have a 3.0 GHz Core 2 Duo CPU (should be more than adequate) but I'm hobbled with a video card that only has 896 MB video RAM and a meager 2 GB RAM (which was all fine and great when I built the machine a decade ago, but is lacking for today's Oblivion modding). What I would do is turn off everything in OR, see what my performance was like then, and then turn things back on in OR one at a time and test thoroughly in between. You will gain a good understanding of how each piece of OR affects your own performance. It will take time, but nothing comes for free. Edited March 14, 2017 by Striker879 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoldier217 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Hey, thank you again for all your replies :smile: So i rebuild the Bashed patch with only default settings like you suggested, and I just flat out turned off Oblivion Reloaded. No improvements :-/ I did keep the "lock load order" checked before BOSS sorted my stuff and I just moved them manually; LOOT tried to reorganize my oblivion once and it was a total mess. No idea why this is happening... even watching the mouse is move is like its moving through mud... EDIT: I resorted with LOOT just to absolutely try everything.... NO improvement :( I'm legitimately out of ideas at this point... I've done everything from last time this happened and nothing has gotten better... Crud. Edited March 15, 2017 by darksoldier217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Did you have anything like an automatic video driver update (you need to watch that Microsoft doesn't try to slip something like that in with their security updates)? Ya ... I'm getting to the grasping at straws stage too. Lock Load Order in WB works just fine as long as you run BOSS from the icon in WB (down on the lower left toolbar). If you run BOSS from the desktop icon then start WB it will revert to the load order you had when you last ran BOSS from within WB (or turn Lock Load Order off ... it really doesn't offer you much if you never edit ESPs with the Construction Set). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoldier217 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 I put the task manager on in the background after I quit and once or twice, windows was doing... something that took a lot of disk and cpu power, but when it ended, the problems persisted. I really appreciate all your help (both times!), I think I'm just gonna play skyrim for a while until I have time in a few months to really dig in... My only other thought could be that I'm doing something wrong that's really basic, like launching it using the wrong launcher or accidentally turned off some absolute n00b setting (like how in the Fallout 4 ini you have to type 'enable mods' or whatever, as an example). But, from everything I've read and tried in the past, this doesn't quite add up :( But I really do appreciate all your help :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoldier217 Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 SOLVED There was a virus on my PC that was hogging both my hard drives' resources; the impact was most noticeable with oblivion vs other games for some reason. The viruses were destroyed and now the game plays amazingly again; better than ever I'd daresay! :D So, for anyone out there experiencing similar jerky slowdowns and you've tried everything in-game to fix it, consider doing deep scans in your registry files for hidden viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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