Syco21 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 You have to be online to activate the game and if you were not in offline nice when you shut down, you can't go into offline mode until you sign and restart. Thus is all part out the DRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 You have to be online to activate the game and if you were not in offline nice when you shut down, you can't go into offline mode until you sign and restart. Thus is all part out the DRMWell you have to be online to download it also, what is your point? I don't get why that is a problem. You can't be online for like five minutes to activate a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurielius Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 You have to be online to activate the game and if you were not in offline nice when you shut down, you can't go into offline mode until you sign and restart. Thus is all part out the DRMLook I hate Steam with a passion also but it's the only option if you want to play Skyrim even if you own a non Steam CD, so activate the damn game on line and stay off line as soon as you have downloaded updates that you want. It does not have any hit on my machine to play in off line mode and only takes a second or two to verify my steam account on first start up, it only does that once during any period that your machine is consistently on.. either that or don't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syco21 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 You have to be online to activate the game and if you were not in offline nice when you shut down, you can't go into offline mode until you sign and restart. Thus is all part out the DRMWell you have to be online to download it also, what is your point? I don't get why that is a problem. You can't be online for like five minutes to activate a game?No. Not always. I don't have wired internet. I only have net through my phone, it is finicky and slow at best. I am not the only one. Less than 30% of the U.S. has broadband access, or about 7% worldwide. And I'm willing to bet that a large chunk of those people (in the U.S.) either have lowest tier DSL, which isn't worth crap, or worse they have the highest tier satellite. Which is about equal to the lowest tier DSL and ridiculously small caps to boot. That zero day patch took over three hours to download and install. The last patch took over 2 hours. Yes, there are people out there that cannot be online for 5 minutes to activate the game, and even more people that do not have internet service capable of downloading the updates are forced upon you in any sort of timely manner whatsoever. There is absolutely no way to get around it when you activate or launch Steam into online mode. You can not launch Steam into offline mode without first going online. Leaving your computer on 24/7 is foolish. Yes, I'm fully aware that if I sing and dance, make a sacrifice at the Alter of Gabe and beg for the mercy of the Steam Gods, it is possible to play offline. But that's just it. I should not have to do that. I should be able to stick my game in the drive, install it and play. There is no excuse for this BS, and I will not take it lying down. I have a voice and I will use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 You are telling me that PC gamers can afford gaming rigs and 60 dollar games but can't get a fairly decent internet connection? If you don't have a internet connection at all I really don't understand how. You can get a internet connection anywhere in the US. Five minutes is nothing. Even with a connection through your phone it isn't a problem. Steam doesn't take much to work. It is completely possible to disable automatic updates if that is your problem. Also hate to break it to you but games will be fully digital in the future. Internet speeds will be better over time when it benefits the companies to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 You are telling me that PC gamers can afford gaming rigs and 60 dollar games but can't get a fairly decent internet connection? If you don't have a internet connection at all I really don't understand how. You can get a internet connection anywhere in the US. Five minutes is nothing. Even with a connection through your phone it isn't a problem. Steam doesn't take much to work. It is completely possible to disable automatic updates if that is your problem. Also hate to break it to you but games will be fully digital in the future. Internet speeds will be better over time when it benefits the companies to do so. I don't care if games are fully digital in the future. I can always burn the installer to disk, and be done with it. What I DO object to, is forcing me to run some third party software to play the damn game. Activate it once, and be done with it. Don't make me waste processor power on some app that I don't want/need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 @marharth, I am reliably informed my friends who live in rural parts of the USA that the internet connection can be very flakey, it isn't a matter of what you can afford or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) @marharth, I am reliably informed my friends who live in rural parts of the USA that the internet connection can be very flakey, it isn't a matter of what you can afford or not.You are telling me their internet disconnects every few minutes? I live in the middle of nowhere and my internet is fine. Not every rural area has bad internet speeds. Edited February 5, 2012 by marharth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurielius Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 @marharth, I am reliably informed my friends who live in rural parts of the USA that the internet connection can be very flakey, it isn't a matter of what you can afford or not.So right Ginny, have friends in rural Texas and New Mexico that have to depend on Satellite connections because there is no such thing as cable or fiber optics available out where they live and it's very dicey some nights. There are people that cannot afford even that and must rely on the old stand by of dial up. Money and proximity to urban areas is not something that all have available to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Lets recap shall we? First off some of you are saying that in rural areas you will have bad internet. That is not true. Some rural areas might have bad internet but not every single rural area does. Also it seems a bit strange that you would have a nearby game store but not a decent internet connection. Second off some of you are claiming money is a factor. You can afford expensive gaming rigs and 60 dollar games but not an internet connection? Really? Third, even if all rural areas have bad connections and money is a problem, that doesn't mean you can't connect to steam for five minutes. Even on a dial up connection you can login to steam for a few minutes without much problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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