Load order help!

[mellophonist]

Hey guys,

 

So I posted a couple of days ago about weird textures missing and I thought I solved my problem but I have continued to get seemingly random crashes. Just a few examples, I click a loading door and immediately crash, I walk around outside for more then 15 minutes and I crash, I 'm at my wits end trying to find the culprit. I've tried doing 5 mods at a time, I've done research for conflicting mods, I've used every tool available including LOOT to make sure my load order is correct. If anybody could take a look at my load order (in spoiler below) And see if they see anything I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm

5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm

6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

8 8 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm

9 9 HUDFramework.esm

10 a ArmorKeywords.esm

11 b SpringCleaning.esm

12 c Homemaker.esm

13 d BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp

14 e SkibsWeaponsMerged-AWKCR.esp

15 f 1942Weaponry.esp

16 10 BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp

17 11 Skibs223Pistol-AWKCR-ShopOnly.esp

18 12 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

19 13 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp

20 14 ARWCSM - 2 - Full - Vanilla Weights.esp

21 15 def_inv_scrap_en.esp

22 16 No more monochrome - Color setting for the Pipboy!.esp

23 17 Immersive HUD.esp

24 18 LooksMenu.esp

25 19 MiscHairstyle.esp

26 1a OWR_CraftableDecor.esp

27 1b OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp

28 1c More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp

29 1d PowerArmorDelivery.esp

30 1e Ellie remake.esp

31 1f Desdemona fidelity.esp

32 20 Cute Magnolia Crescent.esp

33 21 Cute Magnolia Vanilla.esp

34 22 DiverseChildren.esp

35 23 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp

36 24 THBrows.esp

37 25 HN66Fo4_MOONSIZE.esp

38 26 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp

39 27 dD - Small Splatter Size.esp

40 28 chem redux.esp

41 29 CBBE Furry Undergarments Fix.esp

42 2a CBBE.esp

43 2b RainofBrassPetals_Low.esp

44 2c ImmersiveVendors.esp

45 2d AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

46 2e KSHairdos.esp

47 2f VisibleWeapons.esp

48 30 FAR.esp

49 31 Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp

50 32 Glowing Animals Emit Light - Far Harbor.esp

51 33 D.E.C.A.Y.esp

52 34 EFF.esp

53 35 Mama Murphy Facemorph.esp

54 36 LovingCait.esp

55 37 WastelandFashionBandanasBlindfolds.esp

56 38 TheKite_CaitSet.esp

57 39 TheKite_Caitset_ReplacerAddon.esp

58 3a HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp

59 3b CROSS_Uni_BosUniform.esp

60 3c Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp

61 3d RadiantBirdsv05.esp

62 3e Adjustable UI Volume Sliders.esp

63 3f WestTekTacticalOptics.esp

64 40 WestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.esp

65 41 WastelandFashionAccessories.esp

66 42 slootySynthUniform.esp

67 43 Eli_AlecusRogueHD.esp

68 44 Coat Standalone.esp

69 45 Eli_ArmourCollection.esp

70 46 AsharaFO4Steampunk.esp

71 47 Armorsmith Extended.esp

72 48 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - V81.esp

73 49 Eli_MarlboroughHouse.esp

74 4a Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp

75 4b RRTV_GoodneighborCondo.esp

76 4c MaxwellsWorl.esp

77 4d Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp

78 4e Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp

79 4f Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp

80 50 Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp

81 51 DarkerNights.esp

82 52 DarkerNightsDetection.esp

83 53 RRTV_FizztopGrilleEnhancements.esp

84 54 Vivid Waters.esp

85 55 RRTV_HomesAndBunkers_Starlight.esp

86 56 MAGS.esp

87 57 We Are the Railroad (Railroad HQ overhaul).esp

88 58 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Railroad HQ.esp

89 59 RRTV_CambridgeBungalow.esp

90 5a Wastelanders XM2076 by giggity12345.esp

91 5b CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp

92 5c Scroungers Weekly.esp

93 5d ellen.esp

94 5e Binoculars.esp

95 5f ClassicSniper.esp

96 60 ClassicSniperVisibleWeap.esp

97 61 Rangergearnew.esp

98 62 AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp

99 63 TroublemakerOutfit.esp

100 64 Survivalist.esp

101 65 DelyteOutfits.esp

102 66 Crimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.esp

103 67 DX_Black_Widow.esp

104 68 AutomatronCountyCrossingFix.esp

105 69 OWR.esp

106 6a SatelliteWorldMap.esp

107 6b Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp

108 6c Armored General by Hothtrooper44.esp

109 6d Swinging Meat Bags.esp

110 6e OutfitSwitcher.esp

111 6f ARWCSM - OutfitSwitcher Patch.esp

112 70 TransferSettlements.esp

113 71 SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp

114 72 WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp

115 73 SSEX.esp

116 74 RepairSanctuary.esp

117 75 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp

118 76 SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp

119 77 DD_TRUMP_2016_MAKE_MODDING_GREAT_AGAIN.esp

120 78 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp

121 79 FunctionalDisplays.esp

122 7a FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp

123 7b MoBettaScrap.esp

124 7c CrazyEarlsScrapyard.esp

125 7d BusySettlersRug.esp

126 7e BusySettlers.esp

127 7f Business Settlements.esp

128 80 Ranger-Arm.esp

129 81 VatsOverThere_IncreasedVATSRange.esp

130 82 dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp

131 83 NoAffinityCooldown.esp

132 84 NoNegativeAffinity.esp

133 85 LongerRangeProjectiles.esp

134 86 LongerPowerLines3x.esp

135 87 LightDarkTwilight.esp

136 88 No Movement Fusion Core Drain.esp

137 89 We Are the Railroad (Railroad HQ overhaul) 00.esp

138 8a We Are the Railroad (Railroad HQ overhaul) Part 3.esp

139 8b We Are the Railroad (Railroad HQ overhaul) Part 5.esp

140 8c We Are the Railroad (Railroad HQ overhaul) Part 4.esp

141 8d We Are the Railroad (Railroad HQ overhaul)Part 6.esp

142 8e moreoiladdedweight.esp

143 8f Duct Tape Plus.esp

144 90 Craftable Animal Glue - Adhesive Recipes.esp

145 91 Thematic and Practical.esp

146 92 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp

147 93 BetterJunkFences.esp

148 94 OCDecorator - No Experience.esp

149 95 OCDecorator.esp

150 96 OCDecoratorDLC.esp

151 97 OCDispenser.esp

152 98 Movable Power Armor.esp

153 99 Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp

154 9a Lore Friendly Posters.esp

155 9b Fusebox Generator.esp

156 9c BobbleGirl.esp

157 9d FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp

158 9e FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp

159 9f dinoshelf.esp

160 a0 dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp

161 a1 DD_AIO_I_Hate_You_All.esp

162 a2 CREAtiveClutter.esp

163 a3 Eli_Crafting Shiz 9000.esp

164 a4 ModGoggles.esp

165 a5 FirstAidKit.esp

166 a6 Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp

167 a7 Craftable Armor Size.esp

168 a8 CraftableAmmo.esp

169 a9 CraftableAmmo_plus.esp

170 aa AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp

171 ab AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp

172 ac AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp

[Fonger]

experimentally remove vivid weather, we are the railroad, and OC decorator

 

not that I believe there is anything wrong with these mods

 

its more likely an issue with too many mods and/or too many large ones

 

so just take a nice stab in the dark

[mellophonist]

Thanks for the reply!

 

I'm going to leave OC Decorator as its a dependent for Boxcar settlement and I really want to take a look at that mod as the screenshots looked awesome but taking out we are the railroad seems like a an ok start. Its a shame that Vivid weathers might have to go cause I really liked it in Skyrim, but I'll give that a shot as well.

 

I'm about to do one more clean install and literally do 5 mods at a time per 2 hours of playtime and slowly build up the plugin list rather then installing everything off a clean install, which made finding the culprit impossible.

 

Hopefully doing that will allow me to pinpoint what mod it is that is crashing me and maybe it could help someone else, so I'll update with my progress.

 

Anyway thanks again for your suggestions!

[Fonger]

not expecting a "culprit"

 

expecting you hit a wall generated by your particular hardware

 

just remove some random large mods and see if it gets better

 

if it does - its likely the wall, not the mod that causes the issue

[mellophonist]

What do you mean by "wall"? I have a pretty beastly set up that could handle 200+ mods on Skyrim so I don't think its the hardware thats the problem.

 

My set up:

i7-5820K

16 gigs Dominator RAM DDR4

GTX 1080

and I run my modded games on my SSD for faster load times

[Zzyxzz]

Using and running tools, does not solve problems. They help but you still need to know what you install and what it does edit. If you run so many mods and only use loot to verfiy everything is "correct" you can expect such problems. Installing many mods at the same time is never a good idea. Install 2-3 mods test them see if they make problems and then continue. Normally you find out while what latest mods you installed cause issues.

If you have deleted mods from your save, this could be also the issue. Start a new game, check again. When the problem still exists, reinstall everything one by one and test it ingame.

 

Edit:

Fallout 4's engine is a bug itself. Skyrim was way more stable than this. Fallout 4 is known to slaugther beast Rigs

Edited March 20, 2017 by Zzyxzz

[Fonger]

What do you mean by "wall"?

a collection of stones artfully placed to block your progress