Frostcrag is now "Bruma Tester House" HELP!

[Alaisiagae]

Okay, here's something odd. I fast travel to Frostcrag (the original DLC), and the metal door has been renamed to "Metal Door to Bruma Tester House." Inside, the lighting is very, very dark, as if Darker Dungeons applied itself to Frostcrag. The inner portals that lead to the bedroom area and vault have both been renamed to "Portal to BrumaTesterHouseMid" (or something like that). CTD occurance within Frostcrag has increased (it is almost a guarantee that I'll CTD somewhere in there). I go to the bedroom area, and the lighting there is also very dark.

 

I've tried loading Darker Dungeons before Frostcrag, but the problem persists. I tried loading Frostcrag at the very end of my load order, but the problem continues.

 

I also noticed, and perhaps this is related to the Frostcrag problem, that the Smuggler's Cave (Dunbarrow Cove) also had a wierd renaming and lighting thing: the lighting inside is the cave (not the entrance cave with all the crates and the Nirnroot) is very, very dark. The water has disappeared entirely from the floor of the cave, leaving the ship hight and dry. When I view the door that leads from the entryway cave (the one with all the crates and the Nirnroot) the name for the door is "Door to Paradise Cave." Is this Darker Dungeon's fault? :confused:

 

Here's my load order, just in case:

 

Oblivion.esm
AWS-Core.esm
bookplacing.esm
Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Dark Dungeons.esp
Dark Dungeons -  SI.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
300_Lore Dialogue.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
AmbientTownSounds.esp
Better Bell Sounds.esp
AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp
Rainbows.esp
Short Grass V3.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest[Containers].esp
Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp
DB_Disguise_100.esp
Dark BrotherHood Hood Replacer V1.4.esp
Dark Brotherhood merchant fix.esp
LifeDetect Shader.esp
ArrowVelocity.esp
Diverse Effect Icons.esp
Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp
sr_birthsigns_nomax.esp
Chameleon-NoRefraction-2411.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
doofdillas_potions_recolored_sorted_v0_3_1.esp
VAs Better Gold with no Menu Icon.esp
Ethereal - Armor Imperial Legion Edition AR.esp
BBM_DarkScales.esp
Better ring of grey.esp
Shadowhunt Unnerfed.esp
EnchantedArchMageRobes.esp
kal_legiondragon_fcuirass.esp
SIA Assault Alert.esp
SIA Fame Alert.esp
SIA Infamy Alert.esp
SIA Murder Alert.esp
Reset Your Status Page.esp
Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp
Light Elven Weapons and Mithril Armor.esp
Light Glass Weapons and Armor.esp
Slayer_Goodsfix.esp
CombatAlarm.esp
LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp
CrystalCalendarAlternateEdition.esp
Less Creepy Guild Porters.esp
DarkAltars.esp
Creeper.esp
JADICMothPriests.esp
Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp
Dirtier Waterfront.esp
Thievery_Easy_Thrill.esp
Archmage Chest Ingredients Addon 2.0.esp
Egress.esp
FathisFix.esp
Imperial City Temple Clean.esp
Robes Upper Body Only .esp
Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
Slof's Dogs.esp
LL_grave_eng.esp
NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp
No More Annoying Comments.esp
Krystina's Adjusted IngredWeight.esp
Krystina's EnchantTweakAndPotionConsumption.esp
Krystina's MiscTweaks.esp
SSEE.esp
Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp
Essential_Trainers-8374.esp
All normal clothes buyable.esp
Cliff_BetterLetters.esp
BEER! for Oblivion.esp
HB Crude Glass Knife.esp
Saviour's Armor.esp
Cryos Ordinator Lite.esp
Daedric Lord Armor.esp
Tamrielic_Ingredients.esp
Salmo The Baker v2.0.esp
CyrilliansStaff.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
JQ-Amulets.esp
MerryBellInn.esp
PinePeakLodge.esp
SingingStablehandInn.esp
SleepyCatInn.esp
Brighter_Benirus.esp
Bruma_House__Fireplace_with_Fire-2800.esp
Elder Council Plugin 1.1.esp
M'aiq the still.esp
NoDaedraTurrets.esp
Shining Flame Atronachs.esp
Shining Flame Atronachs_DLCFrostcrag.esp
Female Armour Change.esp
Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
Ceremonial Replicas.esp
Levelled Spell Names.esp
NoObsoleteEnemies.esp
NoObsoleteLoot.esp
tag_NaturalWildlife.esp
Mud Crabs!.esp
SPARTAN VIs Diverse City Guards v1 2.esp
FCC-IC-ElvenGarden.esp
FCC-IC-TalosPlaza.esp
JADImperialApartments01Temple.esp
JADImperialApartments02Temple.esp
JADImperialApartments03Temple.esp
TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp
TamrielTravellers.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp
Knights - AWS Patch.esp
Thieves Highway.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - Full Additions.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Imperial City Waterfront Tunnel Entrance v2.1.esp
ICEXPAND.esp
Sno_DarkClub.esp
More_Skingrad-2481.esp
300 Arcane University.esp
Arrow Enchanter.esp
Mystic Archives Expanded v1.1.esp
Leviathan Soulgems.esp
JGhasta_Training_Room-8969.esp
Real Lava 1.3.esp
BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp
RealisticMagicForceLow.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
Diverse Voices.esp
ElaborateEyes.esp
ScenicLoadscreens_v1.0.esp
Parchments.esp
nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp

[dyfed99]

Are you using 'Frostcrag Reborn'?

[Eolath]

Well, we all know Bruma Test house is in the same cell like Frostcrag spire - How it got at the frostcrag reborn, I don't know.

I'd say it has to be one of your mods, try and disabling and enabling them all.

Also, Bruma_House__Fireplace_with_Fire-2800.esp what is this ought to do?

[Aliro]

I had this problem, as well. I downloaded a mod called 'Better Frostcrag Spire Lighting', and the problem went away. I load my mods in this order:

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Frostcrag_Spire_to_ArchMages_Quarters_Portals-3822.esp

DLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.esp

Stuff_at_Frostcrag_Spire-8194.esp

Better_Frostcrag_Spire_Lighting-6682.esp

 

This fixed things for me. Obviously one of the other mods I am using (it is a looong list :biggrin: ) broke something, and 'Better Frostcrag Spire Lighting' put it back to normal. Kudos to the author of that one. :thanks:

 

I hope this can help you, as well.

 

--Aliro

[Alaisiagae]

I had this problem, as well. I downloaded a mod called 'Better Frostcrag Spire Lighting', and the problem went away. I load my mods in this order:

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Frostcrag_Spire_to_ArchMages_Quarters_Portals-3822.esp

DLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.esp

Stuff_at_Frostcrag_Spire-8194.esp

Better_Frostcrag_Spire_Lighting-6682.esp

 

This fixed things for me. Obviously one of the other mods I am using (it is a looong list :biggrin: ) broke something, and 'Better Frostcrag Spire Lighting' put it back to normal. Kudos to the author of that one. :thanks:

 

I hope this can help you, as well.

 

--Aliro

Hey, thanks, that worked! I did use Frostcrag Better Lighting in the past with a different character, but I wasn't using it for my current (or, rather, older) character. It does make Frostcrag "Frostcrag" again, not Bruma Tester House. I did notice that the better lighting effects weren't taking place (if I recall correctly, the mod is supposed to add many candles/candelabra to the wizard's tower), so I'm going to try using the mod Frostcrag Disannoyed, which also improves the lighting. Hopefully, Frostcrag won't spontaneously revert to Bruma Tester House; if it does, I've backed up a copy of the original mod and its BSA archive. I'll also keep Better Frostcrag Spire lighting at the bottom of my load order. Again, thank you for your help!

 

If anyone still has any insights into the Bruma Tester House problem, please continue to post, I'm still curious as to what might have originally caused the problem to appear.

[dyfed99]

I had it until this evening. Then I ran TES4View and I found various conflicts, especially with 'Real Lights' mod, which renamed its cells as 'BrumaTesterHouse' too. So I've put it near the end in the load order and after 'Real Light' and now no more dark rooms and 'BrumaTesterwhatnot'..

[Arthmoor]

Okay, here's something odd. I fast travel to Frostcrag (the original DLC), and the metal door has been renamed to "Metal Door to Bruma Tester House." Inside, the lighting is very, very dark, as if Darker Dungeons applied itself to Frostcrag. The inner portals that lead to the bedroom area and vault have both been renamed to "Portal to BrumaTesterHouseMid" (or something like that). CTD occurance within Frostcrag has increased (it is almost a guarantee that I'll CTD somewhere in there). I go to the bedroom area, and the lighting there is also very dark.

 

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Here's my load order, just in case:

 

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nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp

 

For me, this black screen fix turned out to be why Frostcrag had suddenly turned super dark and had strange door names. It's because the person who made the esp file unnecessarily changes the "fog near" value in several test cells that are normally not accessible by the player. But Bethesda got lazy and reused some of those for Frostcrag, so the black screen fix ends up overriding it. I fixed it in my configuration by editing the black screen fix for that area to match what Frostcrag wanted the settings to be and that solved the problem.

[Aliro]

Hmmm, I use the nVidia screen fix mod on my computer, too. This bears looking into. Thanks for the tip. The more I learn about TESCS, the more I come to think every game should come with such a program, if only for troubleshooting the inevitable bugs!

 

--Aliro

[Avelon]

I'm using both Frostcrag Reborn and nVidia Black Screen Fix. I have this problem as well, and I'm not quite sure why.

 

scalonhulk, if you could release your fixed nBSF.esp or just e-mail it to me ([email protected]), I'd be very grateful.

 

Otherwise, no more discussion about FR was had here - does it cause the BrumaTestHouse bug on its own, or is it that when FR conflicts with something it goes wonky?

[dlcooper]

Hi,

I had the same problem and it's the load order. Move the DLCFrostcrag mod down as far as you can in your load order. Loading it as one of the last mods should work.

 

Doug