Frequent CTD's with modded game and I can't seem to fix it.

[MedicinalFoetus]

Obviously crashes come with the territory of modding and you should expect that going into it as did I but the issue is that everything had been running perfectly fine (frame drops aside) until I installed the Morrowind Acoustic Overhaul mod (http://download.fliggerty.com/download-76-1045) which made my game crash every five feet however after uninstalling the mod it still continued to crash almost constantly, I figured it best to delete my Morrowind game folder and begin using a backup instead but I'm still experiencing frequent crashes on cell change or saving which leads me to believe that the issue wasn't with MAO (admittedly making that part of the story redundant) but with some other mod/s in my load order.

Only issue is I wouldn't know where to begin looking as as I said before I'd not been having any issues with playing the game before installing the mod which I've just removed (I also reverted to a save that existed prior to installing MAO as well as starting a new save altogether, frequent crashes still)

 

I was wondering if anyone more knowledgeable of Morrowind Modding than myself could take a look at my load order and tell me what's going wrong as I just can't figure it. As well I've noted whether or not I've cleaned the mods with tes3cmd as I know that there's some mods which you aren't supposed to clean or something like that but bugger me if I know how I'm to differentiate.

 

I am using MGSO but I've installed the latest versions of MWSE, MGE XE and MCP (or rather version 2.2 of it because I'd been having issues with the installation of 2.3)

_001_ Morrowind.esm

_002_ Tribunal.esm

_003_ Bloodmoon.esm

_004_ Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm

_005_ abotWaterLife.esm

_006_ Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm

_007_ Texture Fix 2.0.esm

_008_ Tamriel_Data.esm

_009_ Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm

_010_ GDR_MasterFile.esm

_011_ TR_Mainland.esm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_012_ MRM.esm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_013_ wl_SolstheimOverhaul_v1.esm ------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_014_ SirLuthor-Tools.esp

_015_ Meteor.esp

_016_ Unique Banners and Signs.esp

_017_ Better Bodies.esp

_018_ Windows Glow.esp

_019_ abotGuars.esp

_020_ abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp

_021_ Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp

_022_ JEB_muffin_fix.esp

_023_ Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp

_024_ Mournhold Overhaul v2.0 - WG + NPC's.esp -------------------------------------- Cleaned

_025_ Sotha Sil Expanded.esp ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_026_ werewolfrealism-moononly_changeatwill.esp -------------------------------------- Cleaned

_027_ Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp

_028_ Fair Magicka Regen 2.0b.esp

_029_ WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP

_030_ Better Skulls.ESP

_031_ Particle Arrow Replacer.esp

_032_ Psy_VGR_Armour.esp

_033_ MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp

_034_ Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp

_035_ AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp

_036_ abotWindowsGlow.esp

_037_ Mills of Morrowind.esp

_038_ Statue Replacer - Normal.esp

_039_ bones.esp

_040_ Shieldfx.esp

_041_ Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp

_042_ Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp

_043_ Fliggerty's Almanac.esp

_044_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp

_045_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp

_046_ NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp

_047_ Neo's Unique Creatures.esp

_048_ Keening_Reforged_v2.0.ESP

_049_ BetterClothesForTB.esp

_050_ correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp

_051_ Bloated Caves.esp

_052_ ExcellentMagicSounds.esp

_053_ almalexia armor.esp

_054_ More Better Clothes.ESP

_055_ Golden Gold.esp

_056_ OTR_Coast_Variety.esp

_057_ Animated Morrowind.esp

_058_ New Voices.esp

_059_ Sleepers, Awake!.esp

_060_ guarskin_drum_replacer.esp

_061_ LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp

_062_ Face of the Hortator.esp

_063_ The Doors - Caldera,Walls 1.3.esp

_064_ UniqueFinery.esp

_065_ BIG_BALMORA.ESP

_066_ Epic_SadrithMora.esp

_067_ SpeechcraftBalance.ESP

_068_ Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp

_069_ True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp

_070_ wl_sol_neverhallspatch.ESP

_071_ wl_sol_millsofmorrowindpatch.ESP

_072_ Clean MCFC_1.0.esp

_073_ imperial chain fix.esp

_074_ Tower Vos.ESP

_075_ UF_HortRobeF001.esp

_076_ Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp

_077_ DB_Attack_Mod.esp

_078_ New Bodies - Clean.esp

_079_ Epic Dagon Fel.esp

_080_ Holidays Across Tamriel - Vvardenfell - RR Holamayan mod.esp

_081_ Live Free.esp

_082_ Female Armor - Complete.esp

_083_ The Neverhalls.esp

_084_ sm_ForgottenHalls.esp ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_085_ Better Weapons and Armors.esp

_086_ Graphic Herbalism TotSP.esp

_087_ Pool of Forgetfulness.ESP

_088_ COI.esp ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_089_ Dramatic Vivec.esp

_090_ New Gnaar Mok.ESP

_091_ Immersive Seyda Neen.ESP

_092_ STA_guides_replacer.esp

_093_ TR_Preview.esp

_094_ Graphic Herbalism Tamriel_Data.esp

_095_ Better_Sounds.esp

_096_ RR_Danke's_Cephalopod_Armor_Eng.esp

_097_ The Doors - Ald-Ruhn 1.4.esp

_098_ swole swits.ESP

_099_ OfficialMods_v5.esp -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_100_ TR_Travels.esp -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_101_ Atmospheric Plazas - WG.esp -------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_102_ The Doors of Oblivion 1.0.esp -------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_103_ The Doors of Oblivion 1.3sound changes.esp ------------------------------------ Cleaned

_104_ Erengard Mines.esp -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_105_ Farmer Mod v4.3.esp ------------------------------------------------------------------ Cleaned

_106_ Import Business; the Merchant of Vvardenfell.esp ------------------------------- Cleaned

_107_ DreamersExpansion.ESP

_108_ Undead arise from death 3.5.esp ---------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_109_ Wayfarer's Rest v1.21.esp ------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_110_ Welcome to the Arena! v6.6.esp ------------------------------------------------------ Cleaned

_111_ RR_Holamayan_Eng.esp --------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_112_ Cavernes Overhaul -Eng.esp ---------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_113_ RR_Melchior's_Silt_Strider_Armor_Eng.esp ---------------------------------------- Cleaned

_114_ Graphic Herbalism.esp ------------------------------------------------------------------ Cleaned, also not using the version that was packaged with MGSO as I heard that one has script issues.

_115_ Pelagiad Renewed001.esp ------------------------------------------------------------- Cleaned

_116_ multipatch.esp

Sorry if this seems like what it is, which is to say that it seems like I'm dropping my issues on other people and asking that they fix it but again I just genuinely don't even know where to begin, any help would be greatly appreciated.

[ReverendFelix]

All I can say for sure is "Excellent magic sounds" causes some scripts to not function. I had to remove it.

[Dragon32]

Update mlox and run that, the version included in MGSO is years out of date.

 

[Edit: Also Morrowind Overhaul - Sounds & Graphics 3.0 Thread #7 read the fixes bit here]

Edited April 18, 2017 by Dragon32

[MedicinalFoetus]

Oh cock, I knew I was overlooking something. Thank you ever so much Dragon32 I don't know that I would've thought to do that elsewise.

[MedicinalFoetus]

All I can say for sure is "Excellent magic sounds" causes some scripts to not function. I had to remove it.

Yeah I think I recall seeing that elsewhere on the forums, something about mods that use scripted magic spells not functioning properly with sound replacers due to them using the sound to run the script or something or other to that effect.

I don't know that I'm using any mods that are using such scripted spells myself but it could be worth disabling it all the same.

[Dragon32]

IIRC, there's a "no sounds" version for just that: using it with mods which use GetSoundPlaying to work out a particular spell is being cast.

[MedicinalFoetus]

I installed the newest version of mlox, ran through all the conflicts and issues it gave me, ensured they were all properly dealt with and my game is still properly buggered. It may be best for me to just make a fresh install and take a more measured approach to modding it.

[ReverendFelix]

Dragon32 "IIRC, there's a "no sounds" version for just that: using it with mods which use GetSoundPlaying to work out a particular spell is being cast."

 

???

[Dragon32]

Got confused. Was thinking about Arkann's "Magic Diversity", that's the one with a No Sounds version. Having a sound mod with no sounds would be... odd :smile:

 

It was early for me.

[ReverendFelix]

Oh... No worries.