CTD When trying to enter pinepeak cavern

[andronis]

Hello i have been trying to get a huge amount of mods working for a while and i finally got a pretty good game going. My issue is that whenever i try to enter pinepeak cavern i crash. I am useng ultimate skyrim by belmot boy as a base then adding a bunch of quest mods. This is my load order. Thanks in advance

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

TKChildren.esm

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

Campfire.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

notice board.esp

daymoyl.esm

WM Flora Fixes.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

EFFCore.esm

arnima.esm

ORS_SolitudeGate.esm

Gray Fox Cowl.esm

ORS_MorthalPain.esm

mannyDragonhead.esm

mannyBlackRock.esm

MolagBalsInferno.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esp

CMWoodenBows.esp

Dragon Stalking Fix.esp

FISS.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

SkyUI.esp

Customizable Camera.esp

iHUD.esp

FNIS.esp

TheAzureTree.esp

Rigmor.esp

LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

DBM_UnofficialFix_Patch.esp

MIHAILDAGON.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

RealShelter.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

TradeRoutes.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

RealisticRoomRental.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

RealShelter_ETAC14.esp

Solitude A City Of Trade.esp

Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp

RiftenBetterDocks.esp

DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp

Dawn Of Series RS Patch.esp

Nightingale Hall.esp

Sanctuary Reborn.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp

ELFX - NoHjerim.esp

ELFX - NoHoneyside.esp

ELFX - NoProudspireManor.esp

VHTNF.esp

HSTNF.esp

hjerimtnf.esp

BHTNF.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Holidays.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

Undeath.esp

Point The Way.esp

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

Demonika.esp

ESFCompanions.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Wyrmstooth - Craftable Sets.esp

Wyrmstooth - Realistic Ownership.esp

Wyrmstooth - Notice Board - RO Comp.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

AKSkyrimUnderground.esp

Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.esp

Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp

Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp

SkyrimSewers.esp

ScopedBows.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

UIExtensions.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

SmartCast_1_0.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

SleepTight.esp

Randomized Word Walls.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp

KWTelescope.esp

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

WondersofWeather.esp

honedmetal.esp

ImprovedFishBASIC.esp

Falskaar - Notice Board.esp

SimplyKnock.esp

escutcheonredwave.esp

Faction Crossbows.esp

More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp

DBM_MIL+OAP_Patch.esp

Cloaks.esp

Volundr.esp

DBM_HA+IW+IA_Patch.esp

NorthernCardinal.esp

konahrik_accoutrements.esp

AgentOfRighteousMight.esp

Agent of Righteous Might - Chapel + Fixes.esp

DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp

Dreamborne Islands.esp

Vigilant.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

TradeBarter.esp

MzarkWonders.esp

HHoS Subterranean Hot Spring.esp

FishingInSkyrim.esp

imp_helm_legend.esp

HHoS Ancient Shrine.esp

iNeed.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Frostfall.esp

Bounty Gold.esp

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

Grass On Steroids.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

xamnant.esp

Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

DFB - Random Encounters.esp

Realistic-Voice.esp

Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp

TKChildren.esp

HeljarchenFarm.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp

ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp

Immersive Merchandising.esp

SpellResearch.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

CFTO.esp

AHZmoreHUD.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

Requiem.esp

Requiem - Legendary Bugsmasher Edition.esp

Fozars_Dragonborn_-_Requiem_Patch.esp

Undeath Immersive Lichdom V3.esp

KFR-Kryptopyr'sFixesReqtified.esp

COR-CraftingOverhaulReqtified.esp

Requiem - Behind the Curtain.esp

CAR-ContentAddonReqtified.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Requiem - Vigilant.esp

Requiem_Minor_Arcana.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

CollegeApplication.esp

College of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Khajiit Speak).esp

College of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Normal).esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

Dr_BandolierDG.esp

Mortal Enemies - Requiem - No Movement Tweaks.esp

DSerHorsesRevamped.esp

getSnowy.esp

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp

NRM Falskaar - Requiem Patch.esp

NRM Wyrmstooth - Requiem Patch.esp

Requiem - SIC Patch.esp

Requiem - SIC Patch - DLC2.esp

NRM Undeath - Requiem Patch.esp

Racial Body Morphs.esp

Realistic AI Detection Lite.esp

RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp

Requiem - Minor Arcana - USLEEP patch.esp

Requiem - Telescope.esp

SpectacularNightEye.esp

SPR - Smithing Perks Reqtified.esp

TrueStorms.esp

Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp

Wyrmstooth - Follower Tweaks.esp

Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks - No Increased Level.esp

Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp

DBM_Requiem+MIL+OAP_Patch.esp

CaranthirTowerReborn.esp

DBM_MAS_Patch.esp

ForgottenCity.esp

WheelsOfLull.esp

balfer.esp

ApotheosisDemo.esp

DBM_WAF_CCF_CCOR_Patch.esp

DBM_CRF_Patch.esp

RabbitHole.esp

darkproject.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp

AoRM - ETaC Complete (Ivarstead) Comp Patch.esp

konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp

ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp

konahrik_accoutrements_dpe.esp

konahrik_accoutrements_Requiem.esp

konahrik_accoutrements_db_Requiem.esp

DBM_Arnima_Patch.esp

DBM_ArtifactsOfBoethiah_Patch.esp

MoonAndStar_Requiem_compat.esp

summersetisles.esp

MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp

HjakhtraevarrTomb.esp

Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp

DBM_DBR_Patch.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

DBM_DPA_Patch.esp

DBM_DPE_Patch.esp

DBM_ESFCompanions_Patch.esp

DBM_ISC_Patch.esp

DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp

Requiem - SIC Patch - ARMOR .esp

Requiem - Rigmor Patch.esp

Requiem - Wheels of Lull.esp

Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp

Moirai - SummersetIsles - CoT Patch.esp

PP_WindcallerPass.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

da_alternate_start_extension.esp

Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Hunters Not Bandits.esp

mslVampiricThirst.esp

mslVampiricThirst - Requiem.esp

VTRFR - Vampiric Thirst Redone For Requiem.esp

Immersive Merchandising - Requiem Patch.esp

hearthfireextended.esp

Immersive Horses.esp

Craftable Horse Barding.esp

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

WWNightEye.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

UltimateSkyrim.esp

UltimateSkyrimBugsmasher.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - Book Covers Skyrim.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - CoT + True Storms.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - Dawn of Skyrim.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - Extensible Follower Framework.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - Racial Body Morphs.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - Solitude City of Trade.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - Wyrmstooth.esp

Ultimate Skyrim - Expanded Towns and Cities.esp

AOS.esp

RSPatch.esp

Darkend.esp

DBM_AOS_Patch.esp

DBM_ImmersiveHorses_Patch.esp

Requiem - Darkend Patch.esp

TreaclemanDarkendPatch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Automatic Variants.esp

Requiem for the Indifferent.esp

[ymf331]

i've answered a lot of crash/load order questions in the past. sometimes i saw something in the list that i'd seen before to be a problem, and every now and then questions get answered that way. unfortunately, i've seen a lot of questions like this fade down into the endless abyss of similar ones far more often. the likelihood that someone's going to stumble in and recognize your specific problem, being that you have a pretty long list of plugins there, is pretty slim.

 

the only real way to have a crash-free game is to be really careful each and every time you add a mod. you might not even have a crash for many hours after installing a new mod, but because of one specific conflict your game is toast after logging all that gameplay. reading the descriptions carefully and making sure to download all the patches is good practice, but it won't make 100 mods work together without crashing at some point.

 

so how do you fix your crash, and make sure that it (probably) won't happen again? first of all, every one of these things will help... skse memory patch, enboost, crash fixes, bug fixes, project optimization... also, cleaned dlc masters. there are a lot of instructions online for all of those solutions. if you're sure you have all that stuff, the next step is painful. it's a lot easier to do from the beginning than after you have a hundred plugins. that said, it's better than playing the game for a month and having it just stop working. honestly, it's the only way to know what your mods even change.

 

the answer is to learn how to do manual conflict resolution. basically, you load all those plugins into tesvedit, then right-click in the left pane and 'apply filter'. in the next box that pops up, there will be a bunch of checkboxes in the upper-left corner. uncheck (as in keep all the other ones checked) the first and fourth boxes that say 'single record' and 'override without conflict'. then click the button that says 'filter' and wait for the filter to be applied. from here it gets a lot more overwhelming.

 

in a nutshell, you'll want to go through all those mods and systematically check for conflicts and resolve them. you start on one end and just start working your way through the records. you don't just want to merge everything, either, because that can also break the game. i strongly recommend looking at a few patches first and seeing what kinds of things they overwrote, and then browsing some records to get a feel for what they look like. also, some conflicts can be resolved by just changing the load order, and in fact this is the best way to order plugins. you don't really need to ever run loot and, in fact, it can destroy your load order.

 

now, how to make a patch? well, first you pick which record you want to base it off of. in the right pane where you see all the parameters, right-click the name at the top and 'copy as override into...' and a box will pop up. sometimes you want to copy into an existing plugin (like if you're adding to an already existing patch), but when you first make the patch tick the box that says <new file>. then click 'ok' and decide on a name for your new plugin. something like 'broke_mod_superfix' or whathave you. it'll pop up at the end, overwriting the rest of the plugins. change whatever needs changing, and when you close the program, be sure to save the new plugin.

 

i know this is a pain, because it's how i fixed the problems i had with modding. even if you know exactly what to look for and what you need to patch, it's literally gonna' take a full day (as in maybe 24 hours) if you start with that many plugins and do a thorough job. the best advice i can give is to make separate patches. i made the mistake of putting all my fixes in one plugin before, and i regretted it when i decided to get rid of a mod it depended on.

Edited May 26, 2017 by ymf331