vfrench2012 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Im getting ctd on start up basically, with no error script or auto crash log etc. Its not a hardware problem, my hardware is well able to play lol. Here my load order with LOOT. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 SkyMoMod.esm 6 6 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 7 7 RSkyrimChildren.esm 8 8 SkyUI.esp 9 9 RaceMenu.esp 10 a RaceMenuPlugin.esp 11 b UIExtensions.esp 12 c AddItemMenu2.esp 13 d RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp 14 e Footprints.esp 15 f FNIS.esp 16 10 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 17 11 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 18 12 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 19 13 HitStop.esp 20 14 TKRecoil.esp 21 15 TKDodge.esp 22 16 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 23 17 UltimateDragons.esp 24 18 Beards.esp 25 19 Brows.esp 26 1a KS Hairdo's.esp 27 1b NB-Scars.esp 28 1c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 29 1d All Geared Up.esp 30 1e HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp 31 1f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 32 20 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 33 21 WetandCold.esp 34 22 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 35 23 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 36 24 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp 37 25 mintylightningmod.esp 38 26 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp 39 27 Vivid Snow Physical.esp 40 28 AOS.esp 41 29 IceBreaker's Improved Reverb v0.025.esp 42 2a dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 43 2b dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 44 2c dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 45 2d Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp 46 2e CoT-WeatherPatch.esp 47 2f Vividian - Extended Groundfogs - CoT.esp 48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp 49 31 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp 50 32 Supreme Fog - CoT.esp 51 33 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 52 34 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 53 35 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 54 36 SoS - The Wilds.esp 55 37 SoS - Civilization.esp 56 38 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 57 39 dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch v4.esp 58 3a SoS - The Dungeons.esp 59 3b TKcombat.esp 60 3c ELFX - Weathers.esp 61 3d IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 62 3e aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 63 3f Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 64 40 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 65 41 Random Alternate Start.esp 66 42 Vigilant.esp 67 43 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 68 44 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 69 45 BlockSparkles.esp 70 46 Equipping Overhaul.esp 71 47 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 72 48 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 73 49 UltimateCombat.esp 74 4a attack commitment movement speed fluid 3.esp 75 4b FNISspells.esp 76 4c Immersive Weapons.esp 77 4d Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 78 4e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 79 4f AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 80 50 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 81 51 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 82 52 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp 83 53 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 84 54 AOS2_IWIE Patch.esp 85 55 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 86 56 Differently Ebony.esp 87 57 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 88 58 PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp 89 59 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 90 5a PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 91 5b RSChildren - Complete.esp 92 5c SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchSPO.esp SoS - The Dungeons-PatchSPO.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchSPO.esp 93 5d Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 94 5e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 95 5f RealisticWaterTwo.esp 96 60 ELFXEnhancer.esp 97 61 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 98 62 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 99 63 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp100 64 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp101 65 AOS_Reduced_Reverb_Addon.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymf331 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 one thing i can see is that your plugins are in the wrong order. loot tends to do that with perma and a few others. the page for all the perma patches has an example of the right order for that. you're also using a bunch of plugins that won't work together, such as realistic water two - legendary and also the normal plugin with the dlc (dawnguard's up in the middle of the list). also, i see that you're using cot and elfx weathers, which i'd assume probably are not compatible. probably sounds of skyrim and audio overhaul skyrim aren't compatible. the best advice i can give is to find some good modding guides, reading the stickied post on this forum regarding forest fires, and maybe starting over. it's really necessary to take your time and get everything right if you want the game to work. loot's an easy tool to use but it's no replacement for a solid base of reading both guides and mod descriptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfrench2012 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 one thing i can see is that your plugins are in the wrong order. loot tends to do that with perma and a few others. the page for all the perma patches has an example of the right order for that. you're also using a bunch of plugins that won't work together, such as realistic water two - legendary and also the normal plugin with the dlc (dawnguard's up in the middle of the list). also, i see that you're using cot and elfx weathers, which i'd assume probably are not compatible. probably sounds of skyrim and audio overhaul skyrim aren't compatible. the best advice i can give is to find some good modding guides, reading the stickied post on this forum regarding forest fires, and maybe starting over. it's really necessary to take your time and get everything right if you want the game to work. loot's an easy tool to use but it's no replacement for a solid base of reading both guides and mod descriptions.Thanks for the tips, i eventually found the problem with simple elimination after trying your suggestions. For some odd reason the esp "RAS - Riverwood CharGen" was causing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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