vjan55 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Explain it to me i missed e3 due to in rl things but as far as i can tell the majority of the modding community hates it an make it look like its another attempt at making cash off mod's as well as the fear that all the big mod makers will go to the creation club an make things...less free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Explain it to me i missed e3 due to in rl things but as far as i can tell the majority of the modding community hates it an make it look like its another attempt at making cash off mod's as well as the fear that all the big mod makers will go to the creation club an make things...less freeCheck out the faq on Beths site. It is going to be a rather exclusive 'club', and you are not going to see a mass exodus of modders joining up. Mainly because you have to be ACCEPTED into the program. Basically, it just a way for beth to continuously turn out content for Skyrim/FO4. It isn't going to change free mods in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJoseCuervo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 It essentially the foundation for the monetization of mods. They are getting it ready for their next game so that's when the hammer falls on this community. Micro transactions are the future for Bethesda. But its not my future or most other peoples. Can't really blame them, they are a business but I do resent the modders in the community who gleefully support this. Blame them when free modding is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinlessorrow Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It essentially the foundation for the monetization of mods. They are getting it ready for their next game so that's when the hammer falls on this community. Micro transactions are the future for Bethesda. But its not my future or most other peoples. Can't really blame them, they are a business but I do resent the modders in the community who gleefully support this. Blame them when free modding is dead.Lord forbid anyone make money putting hundreds of hours to make a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJoseCuervo Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It essentially the foundation for the monetization of mods. They are getting it ready for their next game so that's when the hammer falls on this community. Micro transactions are the future for Bethesda. But its not my future or most other peoples. Can't really blame them, they are a business but I do resent the modders in the community who gleefully support this. Blame them when free modding is dead.Lord forbid anyone make money putting hundreds of hours to make a mod. Might I suggest this hobby if you want to make money: You can make as much money as you like without screwing over a community of your fellow hobbyists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMB92 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It essentially the foundation for the monetization of mods. They are getting it ready for their next game so that's when the hammer falls on this community. Micro transactions are the future for Bethesda. But its not my future or most other peoples. Can't really blame them, they are a business but I do resent the modders in the community who gleefully support this. Blame them when free modding is dead.Truer words have never been spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 It essentially the foundation for the monetization of mods. They are getting it ready for their next game so that's when the hammer falls on this community. Micro transactions are the future for Bethesda. But its not my future or most other peoples. Can't really blame them, they are a business but I do resent the modders in the community who gleefully support this. Blame them when free modding is dead.Lord forbid anyone make money putting hundreds of hours to make a mod. Might I suggest this hobby if you want to make money: You can make as much money as you like without screwing over a community of your fellow hobbyists. I understand this is pretty much a lost cause, as you have already formed your opinion, and no amount of logical, or rational arguments is going to change your mind..... but..... Just how is working with beth to create new official content "screwing over" anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyZ0G Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I understand this is pretty much a lost cause, as you have already formed your opinion, and no amount of logical, or rational arguments is going to change your mind..... but..... Just how is working with beth to create new official content "screwing over" anyone? that works both ways....but....the modding scene has always been a free community where those who were there at the start share their knowledge and discoveries with those who come along later. with the way Bethesda have dealt with stolen mods being uploaded to Beth.net without the original creator's permission, is it likely that those who are capable of that might use stolen mods on Beth.net as their resume for the CC? yes they still need an idea to pitch, but they also have Bethesda employees to do the heavy lifting on their new mod and ideas are easier than hard work. what will this do to the community when the majority of mod makers are PC users but the majority of CC customers will be console users and won't care about the origin of the mod as long as it gets on to PS4 or XBONE?I can see modders quitting and taking down their mods if that happened to them (I've seen it happen over mod theft in other communities and the flame wars were not pleasant on either side. add in real money and it can only get worse). there is also the current atmosphere in the gaming industry in general where modding is being actively stopped. Bethesda are shifting the mod community towards mini DLCs. once they have "the cream of the community" contracted to the CC, they don't need the modding community to provide the new content that keeps their games fresh. the modding community would be in direct competition with paid DLC. why pay $0.79 for a mudcrab backpack when you can download one for free? modding extends the life of a game but it doesn't really generate extra revenue.DLC extends the life of a game AND generates extra revenue. that is the bottom line as far as the accountants are concerned, and it doesn't matter how many people quit modding in protest, Bethesda can always find 3D artists and texture/materials artists to hire on freelance contracts to create DLC. they don't need a modding community specifically for Elder Scrolls or Fallout while there are people who make 3D models, etc, to create images for their Deviant Art portfolios. there is also the little problem that Bethesda have no control over free mods which add adult and/or offensive content. it only takes one mod to get the wrong media attention and shareholders start panicking. it isn't greedy modders who are screwing the community, it is Zenimax and Bethesda Softworks. look at Fallout Shelter to see Bethesda putting microtransactions into a FALLOUT game.in Christopher Weaver's own words "Bethesda has no finance or legal departments. that is handled by Zenimax. Bethesda Softworks is only the PR and publishing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffydd Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Watch your footing. There's a lot of slippery slope here, with some ad hominem thrown in to make the terrain treacherous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyZ0G Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 trusting that shareholders and accountants won't try to maximise profits is just as dangerous as imagining that they will chase after every last cent.the big difference between the two positions is in how they will feel if later proved wrong.the doom sayers will still have a modding community if they are wrong.those who think that nothing will change will have no free modding community if they are wrong. the problem is that no amount of discussion here will have have any effect on decisions made in zenimax's offices and board rooms, so all we can do is speculate on both sides. the one thing I think everyone can agree on is that whatever we think zenimax will do, we all hope that it won't have any effect on free modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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