Whenever I try to reconfigure my controls ingame my game crashes

[globiumz]

Ok, so I will need Wrye Bash, TESTool or somethign else to merge files then? Which files should I merge anyway? I also reorganized my load order ot this:

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

Now the unofficial patches are right behind the mods they overwrite.

[bben46]

Reinstalling tutorial

 

When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling.

 

I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information.

 

Reinstalling Oblivion

 

My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different.

 

For a full reinstall, first you should try to preserve your mods and save games. The easiest way is to rename the data folder where your mods are stored C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data to something else such as \olddata. Then rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file.

 

Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall.

 

After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion.

 

This would be a good time to do a file clean up and defragment your hard drive.

 

Now, again using the original CD, reinstall Oblivion.

 

Before adding any mods, patches or Shivering Isles, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized.

 

Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included.

 

Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash.

 

NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk.

 

If you use Shivering Isles, DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English

 

Now, again start the game and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)

 

Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves.

 

Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder.

 

Now rename the \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata. Then rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file.

 

If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can rename the files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again.

 

Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished.

[globiumz]

Wow, that looks good. I'm definitely gonna try it and when I'm done I will reply back here. ;)

[bben46]

Thanks, I appreciate any feedback, good and bad.

[globiumz]

Well, this seems to have solved the problem for me. I don't get any crashes while reconfiguring the controls anymore. Thanks a lot.

[dyfed99]

I would include not just FCOM in your load order (rather it's obligatory as well as Wrye Bash and the Bashing Patch) but I would redo it from scratch! All those UL esps just after the UOP.. I'm getting a serious headache just for them.. And, as it is, your load order will need hours to correct it online..

[globiumz]

I have screwed up and reformated + reinstalled so many times now, so I won't install FCOM. I'm willing to my fix my load order though, along with Wrye Bashing stuff. Thing is, I don't know where to begin, how to do it, what I need to merge, or the correct load order. If there's any good load order guides around like the one I linked to then I will definitely change it.....

 

Ben, I have already said this, but that was an excellent guide. Much more covinient than reformat + reinstall.

[nosisab]

I have screwed up and reformated + reinstalled so many times now, so I won't install FCOM. I'm willing to my fix my load order though, along with Wrye Bashing stuff. Thing is, I don't know where to begin, how to do it, what I need to merge, or the correct load order. If there's any good load order guides around like the one I linked to then I will definitely change it.....

 

Ben, I have already said this, but that was an excellent guide. Much more covinient than reformat + reinstall.

Gobliumz, you are missing a point, FCOM is not one more mod in normal sense. Its function is merge already existent mods known as conflicting (trying to modify the same things) and so some work must be done to solve those conflicts the best possible.

Without FCOM such mods will not match well and you will lose something in the experiences they would give you, even if they seems to 'work' without visible problems.

 

Edit: In some situations you can even discover too late that something important was missed.

[globiumz]

Well, ok, I'm getting tons of crashes again so I wil definitely add FCOm if that helps. Since I'm already adding that, I think I'm gonna add OOO too. I will also remove a lot of the UL mods, since I rarely explore anyway. I never saw much of the vanilla terrain either so I won't see much difference between UL and vanilla terrain. The only UL terrain I have seen is the dark forest.

 

Even with FCOM, there are some mods I will need to merge my self with Wrye Bash, right? It would be nice if someone could link to a site that explains this whole Wrye Bash, bashed patch, + merging thing.....