Game Crash at or Near Imperial Pale Camp

[solaries275]

I have quite a few mods installed and before this started I think I may have had about 3 CTD's in my total of 100+ hours of play time. Which is pretty darn good considering how other Bethesda games crashed even un-modded.

 

I started a new game, with all the same mods installed and active. I was able to get to the same camp, and there was no CTD. But on my main save game I cannot even get close to this camp.

 

I also tried turning off all my mods, loaded the save I am having a problem with, waited 30 days and then tried to get back to the camp. I can fast travel to the ship wreck north of the Pale camp...but when I get close to it, I crash. Obviously there is something the game cannot load properly. Anyone else had a similar problem?

 

Here is my load order:

 

 

DeadlyDragons.esm

EagleEyePerk_defStamina.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

HeadsmansAxeFixed.esp

Magnus100.esp

Magnus20.esp

Magnus50.esp

Shadow Striping Fix.esp

Shrine of Azura LOD Fix.esp

Warmer Magic Lights v2 - White.esp

Unmarked Places - Player Homes.esp

Raven Set v1.4.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Weapons and Armor Fixes.esp

Weapons and Armor Fixes - Hacks.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp

PISE-Increased Level Scales.esp

PISE-Increased Spawns Only.esp

PISE-Encounter Zones Only.esp

PISE-NPC Tweaks and Potions.esp

PISE-Loot Tweaks Only.esp

PISE-AI Tweaks Only.esp

PISE-Vendor Tweaks Only.esp

PISE-Dragon weighting only.esp

PISE-NPC Equipment Tweaks Only.esp

DeadlyDragonsHard.esp

DeadlyDragonsCraft.esp

GoldenVendors.esp

MorokeiCirclet.esp

AdvancedKillMoves.esp

TCG.esp

VariousGuardReplacer.esp

Werewolf Enhancer - Optional - Jump 15pct.esp

Werewolf Enhancer - 2x Speed.esp

Balanced_Alteraton.esp

Balanced_Conjuration.esp

Balanced_Destruction.esp

Balanced_Illusion.esp

Balanced_Magic_Novice.esp

Balanced_Restoration.esp

ApachiiHair.esp

MTOH.esp

Companion Followers.esp

Lets Get Psiijical.esp

KatanaCrafting.esp

[taattis]

Weird, I have exactly the same problem, glancing at your mods it seems like the only same mods we have are:

 

Weapons and Armor Fixes.esp

Weapons and Armor Fixes - Hacks.esp

Balanced_Destruction.esp

 

Will be trying later.

[LittleBuddy84]

I'm having this problem too. Any solutions?

[solaries275]

I started a new game and I moved that save file to another folder for future troubleshooting.

[taattis]

By turning off AI and combat AI with console commands "tai" and "tcai" I have finally been able to reach the camp. Turning them on at the camp crashes the game instantly. This is most puzzling indeed!

 

edit. there still seems to be something near the main two tents that causes game to crash if I get too close.

 

Does anyone know how to interact with Legate Rikke with the AI turned off? I can choose the reporting for duty dialogue but with the AI off absolutely nothing happens. If I move Rikke to a safe distance where I can turn the AI back on she has no dialogue options for advancing the civil war questline.

Edited March 12, 2012 by taattis

[taattis]

After about bjazillion crashes with AI off I am quite certain that it is not the Imperial camp that is causing the crash but the dragon burial dome just southwest of the camp. I have now tested this with mods, without a single mod and waiting for 32+ days indoors for both.

[Jeoiwai]

Same thing happen here,

I try to go to the camp in early save without any problem.

But in the main save crash every time.

[Jeoiwai]

Hi again,

It seems before the quest "Message to whiterun", no problem to discover or go near the camp.

Edited March 13, 2012 by Jeoiwai

[Jeoiwai]

By turning off AI and combat AI with console commands "tai" and "tcai" I have finally been able to reach the camp. Turning them on at the camp crashes the game instantly. This is most puzzling indeed!

 

edit. there still seems to be something near the main two tents that causes game to crash if I get too close.

 

Does anyone know how to interact with Legate Rikke with the AI turned off? I can choose the reporting for duty dialogue but with the AI off absolutely nothing happens. If I move Rikke to a safe distance where I can turn the AI back on she has no dialogue options for advancing the civil war questline.

Thanks for your tip!

Now I can reach the camp, and continue the quest.

First I discover the camp then save immediately,

then turn on AI and combat AI with console commands "tai" and "tcai", which will jump to the desktop.

Finally start the game again and talk to Legate Rikke.

 

Hope this help!

Edited March 13, 2012 by Jeoiwai

[taattis]

By turning off AI and combat AI with console commands "tai" and "tcai" I have finally been able to reach the camp. Turning them on at the camp crashes the game instantly. This is most puzzling indeed!

 

edit. there still seems to be something near the main two tents that causes game to crash if I get too close.

 

Does anyone know how to interact with Legate Rikke with the AI turned off? I can choose the reporting for duty dialogue but with the AI off absolutely nothing happens. If I move Rikke to a safe distance where I can turn the AI back on she has no dialogue options for advancing the civil war questline.

Thanks for your tip!

Now I can reach the camp, and continue the quest.

First I discover the camp then save immediately,

then turn on AI and combat AI with console commands "tai" and "tcai", which will jump to the desktop.

Finally start the game again and talk to Legate Rikke.

 

Hope this help!

 

It did indeed, thanks a ton, was able to continue on with the civil war questline.

 

The second I loaded I saw a dragon pop up just beyond the hills east of the camp and after killing it I went to check out the dragon dome and yep, it was empty. solaries275 was right when he told me it might be the dragon dome causing the crashing and I am pretty damn sure now that it indeed is.

Edited March 13, 2012 by taattis