Crash on new game.

[jonsmith100]

I have tried removing all my esp's but that doesn't seem to work for me at all, my game loads fine just when a new game is started I get a glimpse of my starting location ie. Alt start mod just before crashing. And when removing esp's in such a way to remover them from least to greatest importance for assets, the game crashes faster than with all active either before loading even finishes or before it starts.
Heres my load order from loot all 172 mods.

 

00

Skyrim.esm

5E

Zim's Improved Dremora.esp

5F

TGNoToNocturnal.esp

60

AK- Cowl of the Grey Fox.esp

61

MainlandStalhrim.esp

62

Perk Point Awards.esp

63

Prometheus_Sovngarde_Gold.esp

64

Supreme Miraak.esp

65

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

66

SlavePackRiekling.esp

67

PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp

68

notice board.esp

69

Zim's Fortify Enchantments.esp

6A

moonpath.esp

6B

JRMoonpathPatch.esp

6C

Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

6D

Expanded Dawnguard Map Markers 1.1.esp

6E

More Map Markers.esp

6F

PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

70

magic of the magna-ge.esp

71

ThievesGuild+SSE.esp

72

dragonstrikebow.esp

73

Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

17

ShocksCookingSkillHF.esp

18

20 More Perk Points.esp

19

Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

1A

AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

1B

WDWP.esp

1C

50 More Perk Points.esp

1D

Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp

1E

Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp

1F

Unique Uniques.esp

20

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

21

ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp

22

ogSplendorDragons.esp

23

DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

24

Pruvan's Alchemy Overhaul.esp

25

DaedricArmor_wo_SpikyPauldrons.esp

26

Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp

27

Splendor-DDCse patch.esp

28

DurnehviirEnhanced.esp

29

undeadfx.esp

2A

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

2B

Skyrim Alchemy Fixed.esp

2C

hunterscarvedarsenal.esp

2D

goodbrother.esp

2E

Elemental Destruction.esp

2F

SAF - Summermyst.esp

30

Powerful Harkon.esp

31

DwemerColosseum.esp

32

ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp

33

bloodmoon.esp

34

UnlimitedWerewolfTransformations.esp

35

Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

36

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

37

Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp

38

Radiant quest reward perk point.esp

39

Marriage_All.esp

3A

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

3B

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

3C

ImmersivePerformance_Ordinator.esp

3D

OrdinatorJzargoDialogueFix.esp

3E

Elemental Destruction - Ordinator Patch.esp

3F

Multiple Enchantments - Ordinator Patch.esp

40

BattleAftermath.esp

41

Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

42

Point The Way.esp

43

marriagemod - alpha v3.esp

44

ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp

45

ImprovedDaedricArtifacts.esp

46

Better Vampires.esp

47

BVandSacrosanct_Patch.esp

48

imp_helm_legend.esp

49

MLU - Improved Closefaced Helmets.esp

4A

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

4B

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

4C

Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp

4D

Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp

4E

Volkihar Knight.esp

4F

Volkihar Knight - Better Vampires Patch.esp

50

Volkihar Knight - Sacrosanct Patch.esp

51

AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp

52

Simple Enchant Restriction Remover SE.esp

53

HaladoonsGlassStalhrim.esp

54

StalhrimExtraCrafting.esp

55

Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp

56

MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp

57

Higher Bounty Rewards.esp

58

aesbetterdbdreward.esp

59

Crimson Nirnroot.esp

5A

BonemoldWeapons.esp

5B

Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

5C

The Elder Scrolls Tomes - Skyrim Magic Addon.esp

5D

MagicUnlock.esp

5E

Zim's Improved Dremora.esp

5F

TGNoToNocturnal.esp

60

AK- Cowl of the Grey Fox.esp

61

MainlandStalhrim.esp

62

Perk Point Awards.esp

63

Prometheus_Sovngarde_Gold.esp

64

Supreme Miraak.esp

65

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

66

SlavePackRiekling.esp

67

PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp

68

notice board.esp

69

Zim's Fortify Enchantments.esp

6A

moonpath.esp

6B

JRMoonpathPatch.esp

6C

Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

6D

Expanded Dawnguard Map Markers 1.1.esp

6E

More Map Markers.esp

6F

PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

70

magic of the magna-ge.esp

71

ThievesGuild+SSE.esp

72

dragonstrikebow.esp

73

Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

74

Map Markers Complete.esp

75

Vampirelordroyal.esp

76

BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp

77

PerkTomes.esp

78

HBetterBows.esp

79

SignusCaveOverhaul.esp

7A

Shadowmarks.esp

7B

FNISspells.esp

7C

Tainted_Blood.esp

7D

Convenient Horses.esp

7E

Follower Map Marker Beacon SSE.esp

7F

Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp

80

MBW Dragon Souls to Perk Points.esp

81

DGE_PCIorLSC_Patch.esp

82

Convenient Horses Bruma Patch.esp

83

AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp

84

ISD_Dragonspear.esp

85

Gray Fox Cowl - Alternative Start.esp

86

EzEWorldMapSE.esp

87

DBRewards.esp

88

Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp

89

AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp

8A

SPFixed Stone of Barenziah places.esp

8B

Veezara.esp

8C

marriagemod - hf.esp

8D

Penitus Oculatus in Dragonbridge.esp

8E

WeightlessGold.esp

8F

GetBothRewardsSeries.esp

90

modseptim001.esp

91

ArgonianVampireFemaleAnimFix.esp

92

TailRemovalKit.esp

93

MammothHide.esp

94

Voice.esp

95

ArgonianFins.esp

96

HornsAreForever.esp

97

Bald Head.esp

98

Beards.esp

99

Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

9A

Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

9B

Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

9C

Drachis Argonian Eyes.esp

9D

Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

9E

Tainted_Blood_Imperious_Compatibility_Patch.esp

9F

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

A0

MLU.esp

A1

MLU - Remove Tempering Nerf.esp

A2

MLU - Summermyst.esp

A3

MLU - AAE Ultimate Edition.esp

A4

MLU - Unique Uniques Patch.esp

A5

MLU - Immersive Armors.esp

A6

MLU - Mainland Stalhrim.esp

A7

LSC_MLU Patch.esp

A8

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

A9

Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

AA

Bruma - Alternate Start.esp

AB

DBM_RelicHunter.esp

Anyways I'd greatly appreciate help with this, I have school in 30mins of writing this so I will be back to the forum later on. Thanks in advance.

[WastelandAssassin]

well , this is a mess to even look at , with this huge list

however , seeing a mod like Supreme Miraak , when you don't have Dragonborn active , means you should expect crashes and problems

I would suppose that there are many mods that you have installed , where you may not have the requirements

do check each one of the mods you have , and get the basics like the unofficial patch and mods that increase stability and such , unless you want the game to run badly

look up basic modding tutorials , like the videos by Gopher . these at least cover some of the basics you should install

[wfandrews]

At a quick glance some of your mods require the DLC's to be active, as WastelandAssassin noted. Is there a reason that the DLC's are not active in your load order?

 

I would recommend activating the DLC's, Downloading and installing USEEP, running LOOT, and then creating a Bash patch, and try again on a new game.

 

If you do not understand some of what I have recommended then you should definitely do as WastelandAssassin said and look up some basic modding tutorials. Having a basic understanding of modding and the tools required to effectively mod your game is essential for a stable modded game.

[jonsmith100]

At a quick glance some of your mods require the DLC's to be active, as WastelandAssassin noted. Is there a reason that the DLC's are not active in your load order?

 

I would recommend activating the DLC's, Downloading and installing USEEP, running LOOT, and then creating a Bash patch, and try again on a new game.

 

If you do not understand some of what I have recommended then you should definitely do as WastelandAssassin said and look up some basic modding tutorials. Having a basic understanding of modding and the tools required to effectively mod your game is essential for a stable modded game.

 

well , this is a mess to even look at , with this huge list

however , seeing a mod like Supreme Miraak , when you don't have Dragonborn active , means you should expect crashes and problems

I would suppose that there are many mods that you have installed , where you may not have the requirements

do check each one of the mods you have , and get the basics like the unofficial patch and mods that increase stability and such , unless you want the game to run badly

look up basic modding tutorials , like the videos by Gopher . these at least cover some of the basics you should install

That's the load order from loot, it only displays mods and main file Skyrim SE comes with all DLC. And NMM won't allow you to disable them or the main Skyrim esp. loot just doesn't list them, however, I assure you that none of my mods are missing DLC assets. I do understand how to do basic modding, but Wrye bash patches are out of my league and I can understand how it seemed like I didn't have DLC active.

Edited September 27, 2017 by jonsmith100

[sopmac45]

 

At a quick glance some of your mods require the DLC's to be active, as WastelandAssassin noted. Is there a reason that the DLC's are not active in your load order?

 

I would recommend activating the DLC's, Downloading and installing USEEP, running LOOT, and then creating a Bash patch, and try again on a new game.

 

If you do not understand some of what I have recommended then you should definitely do as WastelandAssassin said and look up some basic modding tutorials. Having a basic understanding of modding and the tools required to effectively mod your game is essential for a stable modded game.

 

well , this is a mess to even look at , with this huge list

however , seeing a mod like Supreme Miraak , when you don't have Dragonborn active , means you should expect crashes and problems

I would suppose that there are many mods that you have installed , where you may not have the requirements

do check each one of the mods you have , and get the basics like the unofficial patch and mods that increase stability and such , unless you want the game to run badly

look up basic modding tutorials , like the videos by Gopher . these at least cover some of the basics you should install

That's the load order from loot, it only displays mods and main file Skyrim SE comes with all DLC. And NMM won't allow you to disable them or the main Skyrim esp. loot just doesn't list them, however, I assure you that none of my mods are missing DLC assets. I do understand how to do basic modding, but Wrye bash patches are out of my league and I can understand how it seemed like I didn't have DLC active.

 

 

 

... but you are missing the unofficial patch which is a "must have mod" ... have you read the mod description of each one of them and looking for proper load order and compatibility ( from author's recommendations ) ? Have you read the posts of each mod that you have downloaded ? By doing that, you will find out what issues other players have encountered and how they fixed them.

 

Question : did you download all the mods at the same time and started a new game ? This could be a problem .. unless you know for sure ( based on preciouses play through with those mods ) that the mods are not conflicting with each other. If this is your first play through, definitely, you should go nuke, restart the whole thing and just download 5 mods at a time, play for an hour and see what happens. Problem ? Deactivate/delete whichever is causing the problem, go back to your saved game ( before you downloaded the mods ) and add more and repeat that loop till you are sure everything is ok.

 

Bash patches are also out of my league but I do recommend you to watch the video located in Fallout 4 War of the Commonwealth mod ( middle of the mod description ). This video apply for both Fallout 3 and Skyrim and will teach you some information that you probably do not know. You won't be able to patch your game after you watch the video but at least will give a better understanding about modding a game which is something not that simple. Trust me, I thought it was so simple till I watched that video.

 

Also, I do not have any CTD ( after more than a year playing Skyrim and started it from scratch several times ) now because I have been learning step by step and because the mods that I am running, are well known mods ( most endorsed and most downloaded ) by the community, so they have been tested by thousands of players and because I have read all mod descriptions and their posts, used LOOT and respected what the authors have said about load order and compatibility. I do not recognize a lot of mods in your load order and I did not know they even existed. I am not saying they are bad mods but you are using mods that have not been probably endorsed the most by the community and that says something, don't you think ?

 

Regardless, if you want to use them, go for, but probably they need to be patched out and if you do not know how to do that, my recommendation is either run the game with them and take a risk or simply do not use them and go with other mods well recognized and used by thousands of players. There are hundreds of modders but not all of them are very good modders. Keep that in mind.

 

Also realize that you can get the same effect provided by a mod by just typing a console command. This way, you would not have the need to have that mod at all. One less mod in your load order will help not to over stress your video card. For example, In my Fallout 4 game I do not have a mod that allow merchants to have more caps because I just simply type a command that allow me to have millions of caps, so why I should have a mod that is not necessary ? You can call me cheater but my point is to have what it is necessary for your game to play according to your play style and have in mind something very important : simplicity ! The more mods you have, the more chances for your game to crash and the most difficult for you to find out which mod is causing the problem ..... AGAIN ... unless you know how to patch the game via xEdit, keep it simple.

 

There are a lot of players that have 250 mods ( max in Skyrim I guess - I've never had more than 120 though - ) but they know how to patch their game to the point that they can play their game without any CTD. If you do not know how to create a patch, then my friend, I guess you have no choice than to stick to well known mods and follow some important basic rules. Good luck.

[jonsmith100]

 

 

At a quick glance some of your mods require the DLC's to be active, as WastelandAssassin noted. Is there a reason that the DLC's are not active in your load order?

 

I would recommend activating the DLC's, Downloading and installing USEEP, running LOOT, and then creating a Bash patch, and try again on a new game.

 

If you do not understand some of what I have recommended then you should definitely do as WastelandAssassin said and look up some basic modding tutorials. Having a basic understanding of modding and the tools required to effectively mod your game is essential for a stable modded game.

 

well , this is a mess to even look at , with this huge list

however , seeing a mod like Supreme Miraak , when you don't have Dragonborn active , means you should expect crashes and problems

I would suppose that there are many mods that you have installed , where you may not have the requirements

do check each one of the mods you have , and get the basics like the unofficial patch and mods that increase stability and such , unless you want the game to run badly

look up basic modding tutorials , like the videos by Gopher . these at least cover some of the basics you should install

That's the load order from loot, it only displays mods and main file Skyrim SE comes with all DLC. And NMM won't allow you to disable them or the main Skyrim esp. loot just doesn't list them, however, I assure you that none of my mods are missing DLC assets. I do understand how to do basic modding, but Wrye bash patches are out of my league and I can understand how it seemed like I didn't have DLC active.

 

 

 

... but you are missing the unofficial patch which is a "must have mod" ... have you read the mod description of each one of them and looking for proper load order and compatibility ( from author's recommendations ) ? Have you read the posts of each mod that you have downloaded ? By doing that, you will find out what issues other players have encountered and how they fixed them.

 

Question : did you download all the mods at the same time and started a new game ? This could be a problem .. unless you know for sure ( based on preciouses play through with those mods ) that the mods are not conflicting with each other. If this is your first play through, definitely, you should go nuke, restart the whole thing and just download 5 mods at a time, play for an hour and see what happens. Problem ? Deactivate/delete whichever is causing the problem, go back to your saved game ( before you downloaded the mods ) and add more and repeat that loop till you are sure everything is ok.

 

Bash patches are also out of my league but I do recommend you to watch the video located in Fallout 4 War of the Commonwealth mod ( middle of the mod description ). This video apply for both Fallout 3 and Skyrim and will teach you some information that you probably do not know. You won't be able to patch your game after you watch the video but at least will give a better understanding about modding a game which is something not that simple. Trust me, I thought it was so simple till I watched that video.

 

Also, I do not have any CTD ( after more than a year playing Skyrim and started it from scratch several times ) now because I have been learning step by step and because the mods that I am running, are well known mods ( most endorsed and most downloaded ) by the community, so they have been tested by thousands of players and because I have read all mod descriptions and their posts, used LOOT and respected what the authors have said about load order and compatibility. I do not recognize a lot of mods in your load order and I did not know they even existed. I am not saying they are bad mods but you are using mods that have not been probably endorsed the most by the community and that says something, don't you think ?

 

Regardless, if you want to use them, go for, but probably they need to be patched out and if you do not know how to do that, my recommendation is either run the game with them and take a risk or simply do not use them and go with other mods well recognized and used by thousands of players. There are hundreds of modders but not all of them are very good modders. Keep that in mind.

 

Also realize that you can get the same effect provided by a mod by just typing a console command. This way, you would not have the need to have that mod at all. One less mod in your load order will help not to over stress your video card. For example, In my Fallout 4 game I do not have a mod that allow merchants to have more caps because I just simply type a command that allow me to have millions of caps, so why I should have a mod that is not necessary ? You can call me cheater but my point is to have what it is necessary for your game to play according to your play style and have in mind something very important : simplicity ! The more mods you have, the more chances for your game to crash and the most difficult for you to find out which mod is causing the problem ..... AGAIN ... unless you know how to patch the game via xEdit, keep it simple.

 

There are a lot of players that have 250 mods ( max in Skyrim I guess - I've never had more than 120 though - ) but they know how to patch their game to the point that they can play their game without any CTD. If you do not know how to create a patch, then my friend, I guess you have no choice than to stick to well known mods and follow some important basic rules. Good luck.

 

I fixed the crash on new game, still not sure which mod crashed it but I have all the mods and patches for each (including USSEP). But when I started a new game and chose 'Where my new life shall begin...' I picked left for dead and I have had few crashes without any obvious reason like the occasional sudden CTD without anything seeming to provoke it. I'm also crashing when I open a specific book that I'm pretty sure my mods don't affect which is the 'Wolf Queen V4 book'. I tried removing any and all mods related to books which were one or two (perk books (with BV and ordinator patches) and Book covers-Desaturated version) and it still crashes. I know I can just ignore the book and see what happens but I would like to resolve the issue if possible. I know that I should make another topic question post, but I think I should be all good if I get it fixed. I also can't find anyone else who encountered this problem.

Edited September 29, 2017 by jonsmith100

[jonsmith100]

 

 

 

At a quick glance some of your mods require the DLC's to be active, as WastelandAssassin noted. Is there a reason that the DLC's are not active in your load order?

 

I would recommend activating the DLC's, Downloading and installing USEEP, running LOOT, and then creating a Bash patch, and try again on a new game.

 

If you do not understand some of what I have recommended then you should definitely do as WastelandAssassin said and look up some basic modding tutorials. Having a basic understanding of modding and the tools required to effectively mod your game is essential for a stable modded game.

 

well , this is a mess to even look at , with this huge list

however , seeing a mod like Supreme Miraak , when you don't have Dragonborn active , means you should expect crashes and problems

I would suppose that there are many mods that you have installed , where you may not have the requirements

do check each one of the mods you have , and get the basics like the unofficial patch and mods that increase stability and such , unless you want the game to run badly

look up basic modding tutorials , like the videos by Gopher . these at least cover some of the basics you should install

That's the load order from loot, it only displays mods and main file Skyrim SE comes with all DLC. And NMM won't allow you to disable them or the main Skyrim esp. loot just doesn't list them, however, I assure you that none of my mods are missing DLC assets. I do understand how to do basic modding, but Wrye bash patches are out of my league and I can understand how it seemed like I didn't have DLC active.

 

 

 

... but you are missing the unofficial patch which is a "must have mod" ... have you read the mod description of each one of them and looking for proper load order and compatibility ( from author's recommendations ) ? Have you read the posts of each mod that you have downloaded ? By doing that, you will find out what issues other players have encountered and how they fixed them.

 

Question : did you download all the mods at the same time and started a new game ? This could be a problem .. unless you know for sure ( based on preciouses play through with those mods ) that the mods are not conflicting with each other. If this is your first play through, definitely, you should go nuke, restart the whole thing and just download 5 mods at a time, play for an hour and see what happens. Problem ? Deactivate/delete whichever is causing the problem, go back to your saved game ( before you downloaded the mods ) and add more and repeat that loop till you are sure everything is ok.

 

Bash patches are also out of my league but I do recommend you to watch the video located in Fallout 4 War of the Commonwealth mod ( middle of the mod description ). This video apply for both Fallout 3 and Skyrim and will teach you some information that you probably do not know. You won't be able to patch your game after you watch the video but at least will give a better understanding about modding a game which is something not that simple. Trust me, I thought it was so simple till I watched that video.

 

Also, I do not have any CTD ( after more than a year playing Skyrim and started it from scratch several times ) now because I have been learning step by step and because the mods that I am running, are well known mods ( most endorsed and most downloaded ) by the community, so they have been tested by thousands of players and because I have read all mod descriptions and their posts, used LOOT and respected what the authors have said about load order and compatibility. I do not recognize a lot of mods in your load order and I did not know they even existed. I am not saying they are bad mods but you are using mods that have not been probably endorsed the most by the community and that says something, don't you think ?

 

Regardless, if you want to use them, go for, but probably they need to be patched out and if you do not know how to do that, my recommendation is either run the game with them and take a risk or simply do not use them and go with other mods well recognized and used by thousands of players. There are hundreds of modders but not all of them are very good modders. Keep that in mind.

 

Also realize that you can get the same effect provided by a mod by just typing a console command. This way, you would not have the need to have that mod at all. One less mod in your load order will help not to over stress your video card. For example, In my Fallout 4 game I do not have a mod that allow merchants to have more caps because I just simply type a command that allow me to have millions of caps, so why I should have a mod that is not necessary ? You can call me cheater but my point is to have what it is necessary for your game to play according to your play style and have in mind something very important : simplicity ! The more mods you have, the more chances for your game to crash and the most difficult for you to find out which mod is causing the problem ..... AGAIN ... unless you know how to patch the game via xEdit, keep it simple.

 

There are a lot of players that have 250 mods ( max in Skyrim I guess - I've never had more than 120 though - ) but they know how to patch their game to the point that they can play their game without any CTD. If you do not know how to create a patch, then my friend, I guess you have no choice than to stick to well known mods and follow some important basic rules. Good luck.

 

I fixed the crash on new game, still not sure which mod crashed it but I have all the mods and patches for each (including USSEP). But when I started a new game and chose 'Where my new life shall begin...' I picked left for dead and I have had few crashes without any obvious reason like the occasional sudden CTD without anything seeming to provoke it. I'm also crashing when I open a specific book that I'm pretty sure my mods don't affect which is the 'Wolf Queen V4 book'. I tried removing any and all mods related to books which were one or two (perk books (with BV and ordinator patches) and Book covers-Desaturated version) and it still crashes. I know I can just ignore the book and see what happens but I would like to resolve the issue if possible. I know that I should make another topic question post, but I think I should be all good if I get it fixed. I also can't find anyone else who encountered this problem.

 

Never mind I forgot to uninstall perk tomes which was the mod crashing with the wolf queen book, if I run into more issues I will make a new thread. Thank you guys for the help!