PandemuLord Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hello and thanks to anyone reading this, first post on a forum. I am having trouble with modding Skyrim, and hopefully someone can help me. Before anyone asks, yes I searched around on various forums and youtube videos prior to asking. The forums was my last resort, and hopefully some knowledgeable individual can help me. My PROBLEM is that when I start up my modded game of Skyrim, clean new save, everything goes well, I make my character, and then when the dragon attacks, I can NOT MOVE to run to the tower or anywhere else. So I recently got into modding video games, specifically Skyrim (Oldrim). I watched youtube videos and download NMM, LOOT, and SKSE. I downloaded a list of mods that caught my eye. The list is as follows GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 Falskaar.esm=1 BSAssets.esm=1 BSHeartland.esm=1 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm=1 DreadPrison.esm=1 BS_DLC_patch.esp=1 SexLab.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 Campfire.esm=1 RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1 SharedSeranaDialogue.esm=1 EFFCore.esm=1 moonpath.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 WM Flora Fixes.esp=1 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 Cutting Room Floor.esp=1 Wyrmstooth.esp=1 BSHeartland - Meshes.esp=1 BSHeartland - Textures.esp=1 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1 Skyrim Bigger Trees Full.esp=1 ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1 3DNPC.esp=1 ETaC - Complete.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp=1 GreatWarSkyrim.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1 Helgen Reborn.esp=0 Thieves Guild Redone.esp=1 Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp=1 SoS - The Wilds.esp=1 Birdsofskyrim.esp=1 SexLab_Solutions.esp=1 SoS - Civilization.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1 Holidays.esp=1 ETaC - Complete Holidays Patch.esp=1 RemoveEssentialPatch.esp=1 Ambriel.esp=1 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1 WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp=1 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=1 Immersive Weapons.esp=1 Sea of Spirits.esp=1 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1 SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1 ELFX - Weathers.esp=1 Immersive Whiterun.esp=1 Immersive Solstheim.esp=1 BirdsHFclean.esp=1 skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp=1 FortDawnguardEnhanced.esp=1 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1 Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1 SkyrimSewers.esp=1 SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp=1 Inigo.esp=1 The Honored Dead.esp=1 DeadlyMutilation.esp=1 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp=1 BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp=1 TRO_BasicNeeds.esp=1 fallentreebridges.esp=1 moonpath_questdata.esp=1 BridgesofSkyrim.esp=1 Falskaar Wildlife.esp=1 Better Followers - P.esp=1 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp=1 Immersive Patrols II.esp=1 DreadPrisonAddon03.esp=1 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp=1 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1 Wyrmstooth - Landmarks.esp=1 Frostfall.esp=1 SofiaFollower.esp=1 EFFDialogue.esp=1 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1 Marriable Serana.esp=1 ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp=1 Bijin AIO.esp=1 HothFollower.esp=1 Serana.esp=1 Aela.esp=1 RSChildren.esp=1 Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp=1 Killable Children.esp=1 InigoMCM.esp=1 Marriable Serana HF.esp=1 Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1 DreadPrisonAddon01.esp=1 Sneak Tools.esp=1 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1 Minerva.esp=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1 LegionArmorVarietyOPTIONAL3.esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 BLEED.esp=1 CaesiaFollower.esp=1 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1 Frida Follower.esp=1 Command Dragon.esp=1 WetandCold.esp=1 WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1 Convenient Horses.esp=1 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp=1 Babette.esp=1 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1 CACO_True Fortify Effects for Magic Skills.esp=1 StormcloakArmorVarietyOPTION2.esp=1 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp=1 SeeEnchs.esp=1 DeadlyDragons.esp=1 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp=1 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1 Falskaar - Temper Recipes.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp=1 Civil War Cleanup.esp=1 SpousesEnhanced.esp=1 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1 KailanahFollower.esp=1 SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp=1 Alexis Follower.esp=1 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp=1 DIVERSE SKYRIM - Immersive Patrols Patch.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 DemonHunterArmor.esp=1 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp=1 KJ Tattoos 4K.esp=1 KristenFollower.esp=1 Realistic-Voice.esp=1 MorePP.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1 Guild Duelist Armor.esp=1 Thunderchild - Wyrmstooth Compatibility Patch.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp=1 Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp=1 WMFF Inigo Patch.esp=1 imp_helm_legend.esp=1 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1 SummonsLion.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1 Gildergreen Regrown.esp=1 wisplicker.esp=1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp=1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp=1 OCR-Fixes.esp=1 Wyrmstooth - Craftable Sets.esp=1 Wyrmstooth - Realistic Ownership.esp=1 Wyrmstooth - Dragon Lore.esp=1 Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp=1 Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks.esp=1 Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp=1 Beards.esp=1 Brows.esp=1 PipeSmoking.esp=1 Celes Nightingale Armor.esp=1 GreatWarSkyrimDGPatch.esp=1 The Unclaimed Delivery.esp=1 CinematicFireFX.esp=1 ELFX - Moonpath.esp=1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp=1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1 TrueStorms.esp=1 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1 mintylightningmod.esp=1 NB-Scars.esp=1 Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp=1 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 RDO - CACO Patch.esp=1 RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp=1 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1 Now, I took over a week to come up with this load order. From eliminating conflicting mods or mods that took up too much room or VRAM (I have Windows 10 unfortunately), I spent a long time on the order and ran it through LOOT/FNIS. I tested each mod individually down the list by starting a new game, test, repeat. Now THE PROBLEM is that I have my order, I'm ready to play a Skyrim game, but the scene instantly in Helgen after the Dragon shouts everyone over, I get up and Ralof calls me to the tower. In some of the tests I was able to run to the tower... but NOW, it shows the movements of my character running, but I'm not moving anywhere. I am making the movements, even with my fingers off the keyboard, just am not moving forward or in any direction. Do I have a bad mod that I didn't pick up in the tests? Because I only tested as far as the cart ride, didn't make it to the movement section (that would've taken much longer). Is there a problem with my load order according to LOOT, or do I have a conflicting mod, or too many mods? I have 219 plugins active in this list, and am going to start Helgen Reborn after I finish the intro. Any help would be VERY appreciated as I've spent a lot of time already trying to get this to run on my own XD Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemeyeth Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I remember I had the same issue a few years ago - unfortunately I do not remember how I fixed it. However, I know that one of my mods caused it. So... you can do a few things. You can disable all of your mods, play helgen without them and enable mods in riverwood. Helgen is a very scripted location so bugs occur there many times if you have a very scripted-mod oriented game. You can also download Tes5edit, load all of your mods and compile them. There is a possibility that Tes5edit discovers the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morogoth35 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Did you make sure to run FNIS? Not running FNIS when you have animation mods such as sexlab can cause that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandemuLord Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 I made sure to update FNIS, but I can double check that. Updating my mods in Riverwood wouldn't cause that much of an issue you think? It wouldn't cause my game to crash? Someone else recommended bypassing Helgen with Live Another Life, but I don't really want that mod, I'm one of the few people quite fond of the Helgen intro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandemuLord Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 And I did download TES5Edit, but I definitely do not know how to use it. I was going to attempt watching Gopher to learn how to clean mods, but I couldn't figure it out :/ will TES5Edit pinpoint any specific problems on it's own? Or will I have to go in there and manually check each one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nef21 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I had this problem earlier today after installing a few mods, the way I fixed it after uninstalling every mod I had just installed... well try using the command console, target yourself, "player.resurrect" then do "enableplayercontrols 1" if you're stuck moving slow, then do "player.forceav speedmult 100" Edited October 30, 2017 by Nef21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowolves80 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 And I did download TES5Edit, but I definitely do not know how to use it. I was going to attempt watching Gopher to learn how to clean mods, but I couldn't figure it out :/ will TES5Edit pinpoint any specific problems on it's own? Or will I have to go in there and manually check each one?Dude, first of all, if you're just getting into modding, that is way too many mods at once. Slow down. Start with fifty or so of your top mods, then play for awhile. Add a few more minor ones. Play some more. You absolutely MUST know how to use TESVEdit to run Skyrim. It's easy. You just have to make sure you have it installed in the correct location. Not that hard. Once you have it open, load only one master at a time. Never clean Skyrim.esm. From the STEP guide you need to read if you're just starting out--it will teach you proper modding and give you a good selection of mods: http://wiki.step-project.com/TES5Edit/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Instructions You're concerned only with instructions 4-8. Save every time you close out. Load them one at a time and close--don't try to do them all at once. Clean the DLCs next. Make sure to clean Dawnguard twice. Yes, twice. It doesn't matter if you think it's redundant, do it anyway because this fixes some kind of reference error with multiple adoptions, I think. I know you must clean it twice. Then, you're going to have to run WryeBash. If you see orange boxes, it's not that your mods are out of order, it's that the mods aren't in the order that the orange-boxed mod expects. Easy fix. Open TESVEdit, load those mods one at a time, just like when cleaning, right click, select Sort Masters. Don't worry that it doesn't look like it did anything--it did. Close and save when prompted. Done. Last, never have mods loaded at all or even installed when you are slogging through Helgen intro scene!! That is the single most heavily scripted piece in the entire game, and it's very touchy. Your clean save should begin after you exit the cave once you escape from Helgen. Then start installing mods, but back up your clean save first. Also, did you tweak your ini files at all? Do you use BethINI? Why not? What about Skyrim Performance Monitor? Why not? Both are necessary for diagnosing problems/fixing them. A great guide for understanding and tweaking inis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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