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Without reading the forum I wouldn't have been able to set up Oblivion+OOO+MMM+ManyMore without any CTDs whatsoever.

 

Since all went well for two weeks, I reinstalled to try FCOM.

 

The game itself is quite stable though there are two nuisances at the start which I don't seem to be able to solve by myself: after creating my initial character I can't change the eye colour or the hairdo in another one when I start a new game.

 

I can, however, change them when using the configuration menu of "XP Levelling".

 

This problem isn't caused by "XP Levelling" because it was present before I even installed the mod.

 

So, what to do?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

And an additional question regarding missing meshes:

 

I came across two items ("Red Hood of the Mind" and "Soldier Shield of the North") that show the typical we-are-not-where-we-are-supposed-to-be-exclamation marks of missing meshes.

 

Question: How do I find out what Mod added those items and/or how do I get their file names?

 

I simply want to know whether the meshes are actually missing or corrupt.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Mod list

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03  Jog_X_Mod.esm
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.5.5b4]
06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.36]
07  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.8]
09  Better Cities Resources.esm
0A  Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
0B  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 2.2.3]
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch MOBS.esp
0F  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]
10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
14  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
15  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
16  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
17  nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
18  ChaseCameraMod.esp
19  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
1A  Xero's Fame Indicator.esp
1B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
1C  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
1D  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
1F  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.08]
20  DLCOrrery.esp
21  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
22  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.06]
23  DLCThievesDen.esp
24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
25  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
26  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.08]
27  DLCVileLair.esp
28  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
29  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
2A  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.08]
2B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
2D  DLCSpellTomes.esp
2E  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
2F  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.08]
30  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
31  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
32  Nightshade_Armor.esp
33  Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
34  FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp  [Version 0.9.7]
35  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
36  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
37  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
38  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
39  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
3A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
3B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
3C  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
3D  OOO-Ayleid Coin Add-on.esp
3E  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
3F  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.5.5b3]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
44  FCOM_MoreWildernessLife.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
45  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
46  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
47  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
48  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
49  Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
4A  Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
4B  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
4C  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
4D  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
4E  TamrielTravellers4000.esp  [Version 1.36]
4F  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
50  T.I.E4MODS.esp  [Version 0.32]
51  T.I.E4MODSOOO+FCOM.esp  [Version 0.1]
52  thievery.esp
53  Thieves Highway.esp
54  za_bankmod.esp
55  DLCFrostcrag.esp
56  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
57  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
58  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.03]
59  Knights.esp
5A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
5B  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]
5C  Mighty Umbra.esp
5D  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
5E  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
5F  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
60  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
61  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
62  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
63  xulRollingHills_EV.esp
64  FCOM MWL-RollingHills patch.esp
65  xulTheHeath.esp
66  FCOM MWL-TheHeath patch.esp
67  xuldarkforest.esp
68  xulChorrolHinterland.esp
69  xulRiverEthe.esp
6A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
6B  xulLushWoodlands.esp
6C  xulAncientYews.esp
6D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp
6E  xulImperialIsle.esp
6F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp
70  xulArriusCreek.esp
71  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
72  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
73  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
74  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
75  Better Cities ICMarket.esp
76  Better Cities - ICMarket Additions.esp
77  Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp
78  Better Cities - SKINGRAD Additions.esp
79  Better Cities BRAVIL.esp
7A  Better Cities ANVIL.esp
7B  Better Cities - ANVIL Additions.esp
7C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Lost Coast.esp
7D  Better Cities CHORROL.esp
7E  Better Cities - CHORROL Additions.esp
7F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
80  Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp
81  Better Cities - LEYAWIIN Additions.esp
82  Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp
83  Better Cities - CHEYDINHAL Additions.esp
84  Better Cities BRUMA.esp
85  WBA Arboretum.esp
86  Better Cities LEYAWIIN - No Flooding.esp
87  PureSteelBlade.esp
88  Arena betting.esp
89  more books teach.esp
8A  Reset Your Status Page.esp  [Version 0.0.8]
8B  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
8C  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
8D  Shady Sam Plus.esp
8E  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.54EV]
8F  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.5EV]
90  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.50EV]
91  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.5EV]
92  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.5EV]
93  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.53EV]
94  Thieves Arsenal.esp
95  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
96  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
97  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
98  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
99  SA Social Alertness.esp
9A  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 2.02]
9B  Real Lava 1.3.esp
9C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
9D  Streamline 3.1.esp

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Without reading the forum I wouldn't have been able to set up Oblivion+OOO+MMM+ManyMore without any CTDs whatsoever.

 

Since all went well for two weeks, I reinstalled to try FCOM.

 

The game itself is quite stable though there are two nuisances at the start which I don't seem to be able to solve by myself: after creating my initial character I can't change the eye colour or the hairdo in another one when I start a new game.

 

I can, however, change them when using the configuration menu of "XP Levelling".

 

This problem isn't caused by "XP Levelling" because it was present before I even installed the mod.

 

So, what to do?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

And an additional question regarding missing meshes:

 

I came across two items ("Red Hood of the Mind" and "Soldier Shield of the North") that show the typical we-are-not-where-we-are-supposed-to-be-exclamation marks of missing meshes.

 

Question: How do I find out what Mod added those items and/or how do I get their file names?

 

I simply want to know whether the meshes are actually missing or corrupt.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Mod list

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03  Jog_X_Mod.esm
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.5.5b4]
06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.36]
07  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.8]
09  Better Cities Resources.esm
0A  Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
0B  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 2.2.3]
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch MOBS.esp
0F  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]
10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
14  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
15  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
16  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
17  nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
18  ChaseCameraMod.esp
19  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
1A  Xero's Fame Indicator.esp
1B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
1C  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
1D  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
1F  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.08]
20  DLCOrrery.esp
21  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
22  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.06]
23  DLCThievesDen.esp
24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
25  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
26  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.08]
27  DLCVileLair.esp
28  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
29  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
2A  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.08]
2B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
2D  DLCSpellTomes.esp
2E  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
2F  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.08]
30  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
31  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
32  Nightshade_Armor.esp
33  Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
34  FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp  [Version 0.9.7]
35  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
36  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
37  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
38  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
39  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
3A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
3B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
3C  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
3D  OOO-Ayleid Coin Add-on.esp
3E  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
3F  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.5.5b3]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
44  FCOM_MoreWildernessLife.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
45  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
46  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
47  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
48  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
49  Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
4A  Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp  [Version 3.5.5b4]
4B  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
4C  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
4D  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
4E  TamrielTravellers4000.esp  [Version 1.36]
4F  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
50  T.I.E4MODS.esp  [Version 0.32]
51  T.I.E4MODSOOO+FCOM.esp  [Version 0.1]
52  thievery.esp
53  Thieves Highway.esp
54  za_bankmod.esp
55  DLCFrostcrag.esp
56  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
57  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
58  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.03]
59  Knights.esp
5A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
5B  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]
5C  Mighty Umbra.esp
5D  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
5E  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
5F  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
60  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
61  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
62  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
63  xulRollingHills_EV.esp
64  FCOM MWL-RollingHills patch.esp
65  xulTheHeath.esp
66  FCOM MWL-TheHeath patch.esp
67  xuldarkforest.esp
68  xulChorrolHinterland.esp
69  xulRiverEthe.esp
6A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
6B  xulLushWoodlands.esp
6C  xulAncientYews.esp
6D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp
6E  xulImperialIsle.esp
6F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp
70  xulArriusCreek.esp
71  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
72  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
73  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
74  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
75  Better Cities ICMarket.esp
76  Better Cities - ICMarket Additions.esp
77  Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp
78  Better Cities - SKINGRAD Additions.esp
79  Better Cities BRAVIL.esp
7A  Better Cities ANVIL.esp
7B  Better Cities - ANVIL Additions.esp
7C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Lost Coast.esp
7D  Better Cities CHORROL.esp
7E  Better Cities - CHORROL Additions.esp
7F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
80  Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp
81  Better Cities - LEYAWIIN Additions.esp
82  Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp
83  Better Cities - CHEYDINHAL Additions.esp
84  Better Cities BRUMA.esp
85  WBA Arboretum.esp
86  Better Cities LEYAWIIN - No Flooding.esp
87  PureSteelBlade.esp
88  Arena betting.esp
89  more books teach.esp
8A  Reset Your Status Page.esp  [Version 0.0.8]
8B  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
8C  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
8D  Shady Sam Plus.esp
8E  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.54EV]
8F  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.5EV]
90  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.50EV]
91  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.5EV]
92  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.5EV]
93  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.53EV]
94  Thieves Arsenal.esp
95  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
96  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
97  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
98  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
99  SA Social Alertness.esp
9A  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 2.02]
9B  Real Lava 1.3.esp
9C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
9D  Streamline 3.1.esp

I'm surprised here since seemed that where combination of hair, races, eyes, better faces and such the culprit for the issue you points above. Anyway it happens only in the very begin of the char creation, you gain control of this when trying to leave the prison.

 

Since I can't see those mods in your list I think some of those features are inside the few ones I don't known.

 

To the second question I suggest you using a mod named Formid finder that does what its name suggest. This mod don't require but does good use of the "pluggy" plugin for OBSE I recommend too. It will return informations about any item is under the cursor when casted the spell.

 

Among the informations traced by formid finder is the mod where the object came from.

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thommaal Newbie

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stephanie, that works -- though I am still baffled why the problem occurs in the first place.

 

I guess, curiosity will finally drive me to reinstall again and create a character each and every time after I've added another mod.

 

nosisab, FormID Finder is exactly what I was looking for, very helpful.

 

Thanks to both of you for your precise and prompt help! Much appreciated.

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Seems to me the only mod which could interfere with the facegen it's 'Zombies for Body Meshes'. Of course I could be wrong.

I had the same issue with the Akaviri Kojima mod which adds few new races.. so I say give to my words a try! Disable temporarily it and see what happens..

Otherwise follow stephanie's trick. It's the same I used to resolve my issue.

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dyfed_99, sounds like a good idea. As soon as I am back at my gaming PC I'll give it a try. And even if that one is not the culprit you have probably pointed me in the right direction. Thanks to you, too. And I'll let you know, of course.
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Be careful using the console .. when you save your changes after using "showracemenu" the game rests all your stats back to their starting values. Someone posted a way around that .. I think you need to save the changes before you exit the last screen in the race menu.

 

Or -

 

use 'modpca' and 'modpcs' to set your stats back where they were.

 

:)

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dyfed_99, (un)fortunately, the zombies didn't swallow my eyes -- must be something else.

 

stephanie, thanks for the warning, now I do have an incentive to fill my gaps of knowledge regarding the console. Btw, as long as I change race, appearance and birthsign using "XP Levelling" any stats are set correctly. If you prefer leveling by gathering experience points this mod does an excellent job. Highly recommended.

 

Thanks to all of you for helping me to solve my little problems and to understand the mechanics better.

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