tinatop Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) i'm hoping there are still people around to help a brother out! this is my first time playing fnv on the pc, and only my second attempt at playing pc mods. i have NMM, watched the gopher videos in order to learn how to mod the game and how to do it properly in order to run into the least amount of problems. i have a butt-ton of mods and unfortunately my impatience led me to install too many too quick, so i'm not sure at which point the problem began to occur. has anyone else had their game STILL crash even when using the qqq command to quit the game? did you ever find what the problem was? i've looked around and many people use the command as a fix, but i've never seen anyone report that their game still crashes so i'm assuming it cant be any of the normal reasons. NVAC seems to prevent my game from closing. thanks in advance for the response, thanks gopher for all the patient instructions, and thank you to all the modders who did so much work to expand the game. i cant wait to try it all out in a playthrough one more thing - i've also never seen anyone have problems due to overwriting files while installing a mod with nmm. i dont think i;ve overwritten anything important, and i've installed the main mods like gopher instructed - i'm just curious if this has ever caused any huge issues aside from hud project Edited October 26, 2017 by tinatop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 You need to install "New Vegas Anti-Crash" (NVAC). Please see the 'Vanilla "Load Order"', 'Towards Game Stability', 'Third Rule: The Rule of One', 'Smaller Plugin Cap', and 'Merge Patch file' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article. There is a link to that mod and several other "essential" mods in the 'Towards Game Stability' section. But you need to read those listed sections at a minimum, and the entire document is recommended. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinatop Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 the more mods i load the more it seems my game screws up. now i lose access to my esc, wait, and vats buttons. ill try to sift through all that info, thanks. when i said nvsr i actually meant nvAC which prevents my screen from crashing but also completely freezes it (never letting me out of the game so i have to force quit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Problems with menu controls are usually due to overwritten XML files that are either installed in the wrong order or are not compatible with the "base UI". Please see the wiki "HUD-UI-Menu issues" article. If that information is not enough to resolve your problem, please provide ALL the information requested in the wiki "How to ask for help" article. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinatop Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 ahhh i thought maybe it had something to do with that. complicated things by reinstalling project nevada, uio, one hud, darnified as well a imps AND others over and over. tried a million different combinations, fnvedit, but just couldn't get it right i suppose. i'm not the smartest and i don't know how to speak to computers properly so i reckon i'll just have to split everything i want into multiple playthroughs. you see all this great stuff and you just want it all, ya know? in any case, thanks. i'm not sure if my ui problem is the same as my game exiting failures ( a few deletes later and it still crashes any way i exit the game) but if i sort it out and the information could be useful, i'll post it here so someone else can find it while googling. thanks for the reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinatop Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) i (my husband) found a solution! i was able to use nvac AND stutter remover, with a few tweaks to the stutter's ini, by changing the nvse folder name in the data file to NVSE! i guess he found that these mods were tryiing to call on NVSE so they'd just get caught in some weird loop. i still get periods of unbelievable lag. not sure what's causing this but i'm still working on the ini. another almost major issue was how i was able to test changes i had made. i had to be sure to load the game TWICE every time the ini had new information. the first time would be buggy; either causing a crash or c++ error etc etc. the second time the game loaded i would see the changes in effect. in some cases i even had to restart my computer to see the changes without error. this may not be an issue for everyone as my pc is pretty old. it doesn't like windows 10 or the graphics card hubbo installed (can't update to the latest versions of things like direct x). but yeah, long story short, if all else fails just capitalize the name of the folder (the one where you stuck your nvse plugins) from nvse to NVSE. this should allow your NVAC and NVSR to run smoothly which in turn cures the crashing on exit! don't ask me how it works - i didn't know that ish was case sensitive. Edited November 11, 2017 by tinatop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 i (my husband) found a solution! i was able to use nvac AND stutter remover, with a few tweaks to the stutter's ini, by changing the nvse folder name in the data file to NVSE! i guess he found that these mods were tryiing to call on NVSE so they'd just get caught in some weird loop. i still get periods of unbelievable lag. not sure what's causing this but i'm still working on the ini. another almost major issue was how i was able to test changes i had made. i had to be sure to load the game TWICE every time the ini had new information. the first time would be buggy; either causing a crash or c++ error etc etc. the second time the game loaded i would see the changes in effect. in some cases i even had to restart my computer to see the changes without error. this may not be an issue for everyone as my pc is pretty old. it doesn't like windows 10 or the graphics card hubbo installed (can't update to the latest versions of things like direct x). but yeah, long story short, if all else fails just capitalize the name of the folder (the one where you stuck your nvse plugins) from nvse to NVSE. this should allow your NVAC and NVSR to run smoothly which in turn cures the crashing on exit! don't ask me how it works - i didn't know that ish was case sensitive.NVSE is not supposed to be in the Data folder. That might be what is causing the problem. Please see: http://nvse.silverlock.org/ for proper installation instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 The NVSE folder should be in the data folder, I think that's what's being referred to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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