Bows need total redesign

[Deleted43573962User]

In oblivion you get bows that are 10-20+ pounds. If you carry bows, like I do, 4 bows weigh 80 pounds.FYI, I have one bow for each type combat encounter.

 

Swords: fire, frost, lightning, vampire, akiviri sunderblade

 

Bows: fire, frost, shock, vampire.

 

I might have missed some. I can encounter anything and be ready. :pirate:

 

Bow weight is outright unrealistic and bow damage is worthless, light long bows can inflict huge damage in history(C.M.If.I.A.W). However, the poison arrow mods fixed the one arrow at a time problem. The speed problem still isn't adressed

 

 

 

Proposal:

 

Bow weight is set at 5-10 pounds and no longer relates to damage. Daedra's bows are 20 pounds(they like their bows heavy). Cheaper bows weigh more, the more you pay the less it weighs. Found bows usually weigh 20 pounds, very rarely you will find the quality bows. 5 pound bows can cost 10k to 100k+, depending on quality of enchantments or no enchantment. You can buy better bow strings. Cost includes bow and bow string.

 

Lesser quality bow strings will do little damage, very high quality will do huge damage. Your bow has limit based on the quality of bow. Bows types are about the same as the vanilla game, wood, metal, plus composite(combining flexibility with power). Composites can be any combination of metal and wood, most cost.

 

bow + bow string + arrow= damage

 

It takes all three to get good damage. High quality bowstring and bow, means it takes more strength (meaning more arrow speed) and does more damage. Better quality metal tipped arrow, more damage. Damage relates directly to speed of arrow.

 

You must have the strength to use the bow string. High quality bows and bow strings will require very high strength to pull it, else it won't allow you to equip it. A high quality bow string on poor quality bow will crack the bow when you try to use it.

 

 

I'm currently on my own project for morrowind, so I don't have the time to do this mod. Think on this one...

 

 

 

 

 

[Oblivionaddicted]

You can create a lot of this features on your own and easily.

[acidzebra]

My main thought is that if you're running around with 4 bows and 4 swords, realism is probably not your biggest concern.

[Deleted43573962User]

My main thought is that if you're running around with 4 bows and 4 swords, realism is probably not your biggest concern.

Yea, i'm the Champion of Cyrodiil. I saved the world. What would you expect of that champion? :)

 

In any game, you have to keep some realism, leave some room myths and magic. But the swords and bows weight are so unrealistic it's breaking the immersion.

 

 

My average character weight is about 420 pounds, some configs I need to bring a ton of feather potions. I have dozens of different tactics at my disposal. I rarely die, 1-2 times per full game of oblivion. I'v played 3+ times through without any mods and still beat all the quests without cheating. I carry around all needed items for any enemy or enemies.

 

I never have died more than once against a tough enemy, like the upgraded king of worms. Geez, that combat was epic and brutal! :nuke: Need to comment on that great mod...

[Deleted43573962User]

FYI, I did a count of the weapons. It's 6 combat swords, 3 bows, and various types of arrows. All I made from sigil stones, but sunderblade.

 

Akaviri Firestorm

Akaviri Froststorm

Akaviri LightningStorm

Akaviri Vampire

Akaviri Sunderblde

 

Bow of Firestorm

Bow of Froststorm

Bow of Lightningstorm

 

Many various potions for all types of combat. Clearing out the ones I didn't use. My total weight is 384. Heh :pirate:

 

 

Back on topic, so you have three items: Bow type, bow string, and arrow. To simplify, common ones found are cheap mass produced bows and removing the idea of bow strings. High weight and low damage. To keep compatibility, I'll leave them alone.

 

Bow types are (common cheap quality glass, metal, wood) basic, medium quality wood, (better materials: better bow string,, lighter, higher speed bow - higher damage, you can't equip with a minimum 30 strength. I'll write out a table for comment later. Progressing on up to custom made composite high quality glass wood, 5 pounds: ultra-high speed and damage, requires 100 strength to equip. Does 80 pts without the arrow. Custom made bow are start at 128k without any enchantments. The low power cheaply made bows don't have the risk of cracking. Once you get to medium quality bows, if the item damage/wear drops below 70% you get an increasing risk cracking and be beyond repair.

 

Right now, i'm working on the morrowind mod. So, I can't get to this ATM.