Major stuttering problem.

[NaziDoge]

As the title says, i'll be walking around in an outdoor cell i.e around Riften area and i'll be getting major stuttering problems when walking around. I've tried to lower the quality of my texture mods, install anti-stuttering program, fiddle with the inis and even lower the games settings to the lowest but i'll still be getting major stuttering and constant frame lag when walking around. So much I can't even play properly. It's fine in cities and indoor cells though.

 

I ran this exact mod and ENB setup with the exact same system a few months back and I had no stuttering problems or FPS problems at all.

 

PC:

 

CPU: AMD FX-8350

GPU: GTX 1050Ti - Fully up-to-date drivers.

RAM: 8GBs of RAM (Not sure if DDR3 or DDR4)

 

ENB: Tetrachromatic ENB (Tried disabling it and I still get the stuttering problems and constant FPS drops, even with every texture mod and skyrim textures on lowest)

 

Mod Manager: NMM (My MO is used up by Fallout New Vegas)

 

Load Order:

 

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Cutting Room Floor.esp
7 7 SkyUI.esp
8 8 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
9 9 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
10 a RaceMenu.esp
11 b RaceMenuPlugin.esp
12 c FNIS.esp
13 d Character Creation Overhaul.esp
14 e CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
15 f CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
16 10 JKs Skyrim.esp
17 11 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
18 12 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
19 13 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
20 14 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
21 15 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
22 16 TW3MO.esp
23 17 OBIS.esp
24 18 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
25 19 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
26 1a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
27 1b SMIM-Merged-All.esp
28 1c RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
29 1d Cloaks.esp
30 1e Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
31 1f Immersive Weapons.esp
32 20 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
33 21 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
34 22 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
35 23 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
36 24 OBISDB.esp
37 25 1nivWICCloaks.esp
38 26 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
39 27 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
40 28 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
41 29 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
42 2a Differently Ebony.esp
43 2b Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
44 2c Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
45 2d aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
46 2e IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
47 2f Midas Magic Expanded.esp
48 30 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
49 31 Equipping Overhaul.esp
50 32 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
51 33 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
52 34 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
53 35 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
54 36 iHUD.esp
55 37 WetandCold.esp
56 38 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
57 39 Beards.esp
58 3a Brows.esp
59 3b Unique Uniques.esp
60 3c TKDodge.esp
61 3d OverflowingEnchant.esp
62 3e ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
63 3f KS Hairdo's.esp
64 40 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
65 41 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
66 42 XPMSE.esp
67 43 AHZmoreHUD.esp
68 44 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
69 45 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
70 46 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
71 47 LV_Cirilla.esp
72 48 Insignificant Object Remover.esp
73 49 Extended UI.esp
74 4a Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
75 4b Bashed Patch, 0.esp
76 4c Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

[HeyYou]

Does the stuttering go away if you look down at the ground while walking?

[iXenite]

If you're using an FX chip - then you're using DDR3. Also, you can just install Mod Organizer again for Skyrim. For each game you want to use MO with, just install a new instance of it. Just be sure to name the .exe for each MO in a way that's easy to identify which MO is for which game. As for your stuttering, if I had to just guess, if you truly are using 100% the same setup then it's probably something within Windows that changed. Is your system fully updated? I would check Windows update just to make sure there are no new updates. From there, I would begin going through Windows' settings and disabling everything I don't need to have on. That's assuming you're on Windows 10 of course.

 

Also, what are you using to store the game on? Is it an SSD or an HDD? If it's an HDD then it could just be getting old - which is causing the stutter. HDD's are slow and can cause stutter in open world games as they slowly load objects in the distance. Fallout 4 is an example of a game that much prefers having its assets being loaded by a fast SSD and not an HDD, as an example.

[Grospolina]

You have Verdant. What are your [Grass] settings from Skyrim.ini? Your iMinGrassSize should be at least 60. You can try higher (higher = less dense) for better performance.

What version of ENBseries are you using? Boris sometimes updates it without increasing the version number. In particular, there were some versions of .318 that had stuttering problems.

By the way, you can get rid of Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix. It's included in USLEEP.

Mod Manager: NMM (My MO is used up by Fallout New Vegas)

You can install more than one copy of MO. The usual advice is to install it in your Skyrim folder, like: steamapps\common\Skyrim\Mod Organizer.

[NaziDoge]

1. iMinGrassSize is currently at 85, tried putting it up to 100 - no help with stuttering.

 

2. Using the most up-to-date version of ENBseries.

 

3. Gonna remove that now.

 

I used someone's advice on a youtube comment to change a few settings with the Nvidia control panel, currently the stuttering seems to happen a lot less but will happen every now and then.

[NaziDoge]

Alright well i've done a bit of messing around and the stuttering doesn't happen much, if at all anymore.

 

Also, never really tried this cos I usually just go straight to MO but is there a way to transfer all your mods from NMM to MO without having to uninstall and reinstall all of them? I seem to be crashing in certain areas like the Riften Jail, Shrine of Mehrunes Dagon, East Empire Company Warehouse and it only seems to happen when using NMM, never used to happen when using MO.

Edited November 23, 2017 by NaziDoge

[Grospolina]

MO has an "NMM Import" tool under the Tools icon (looks like a jigsaw puzzle). It copies your mod archives into the Download directory and you can reinstall them from there. You'll have to at least disable all mods in NMM, if not completely uninstall. It's best to clear everything out of the Skyrim directory except for the vanilla files, SKSE and ENB.

 

I don't know if you can directly import your installed mods to MO. Technically, you should be able to copy your mod folders from NMM's VirtualInstall folder to MO's Mods folder, but I don't know if anyone has tried that. All of the meta.ini files that MO creates on installation will be missing, so I don't know what kind of effect that would have.