SnakeOil78 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I've spent hours going through all my mods and checking for any compatibility issues and critiquing my load order to what the mod authors advise for their mods but I'm still getting a crash after 30 seconds of play, before that though the game is running smoothly and looks great so I'm at a loss of what the issue is and would like some help if anyone can, I may be overlooking something in the load order and LOOT isn't saying I have any problems just 11 dirty mods that need cleaning. Here's my load order I'm using MO and using an ENB but the problems persisted before the ENB so that cancels out a factor. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm 7 7 RSkyrimChildren.esm 8 8 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 9 9 Campfire.esm 10 a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 11 b WM Flora Fixes.esp 12 c HighResTexturePack01.esp 13 d HighResTexturePack02.esp 14 e HighResTexturePack03.esp 15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp 16 10 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 17 11 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 18 12 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp 19 13 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 20 14 SkyRe_Main.esp 21 15 JKs Skyrim.esp 22 16 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp 23 17 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 24 18 Better Dynamic Snow.esp 25 19 Moss Rocks.esp 26 1a SkyUI.esp 27 1b Vivid Landscapes.esp 28 1c KS Hairdo's.esp 29 1d Brows.esp 30 1e Beards.esp 31 1f Supreme Fog.esp 32 20 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 33 21 Dead Body Collision.esp 34 22 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 35 23 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 36 24 Skyrim Graveyards.esp 37 25 RealShelter.esp 38 26 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 39 27 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 40 28 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 41 29 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp 42 2a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 43 2b Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 44 2c aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 45 2d AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 46 2e Immersive Weapons.esp 47 2f aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 48 30 Differently Ebony.esp 49 31 TradeBarter.esp 50 32 RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp 51 33 AchieveThat.esp 52 34 Bounty Gold.esp 53 35 RSChildren.esp 54 36 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 55 37 WetandCold.esp 56 38 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 57 39 SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp 58 3a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 59 3b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 60 3c ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 61 3d ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp 62 3e Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT Nights lvl 8.esp 63 3f WondersofWeather.esp 64 40 iHUD.esp 65 41 vImmersiveBeds.esp 66 42 Holidays.esp 67 43 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 68 44 Run For Your Lives.esp 69 45 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 70 46 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp 71 47 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 72 48 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp 73 49 Immersive Patrols II.esp 74 4a SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp 75 4b Farm Animals_HF.esp 76 4c Immersive Followers.esp 77 4d Frostfall.esp 78 4e SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 79 4f SkyRe_Races.esp 80 50 Morning Fogs.esp 81 51 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp 82 52 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 83 53 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 84 54 TimingIsEverything.esp 85 55 iNeed.esp 86 56 FarmAnimals_HF-iNeed Patch.esp 87 57 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 88 58 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 89 59 NB-Scars.esp 90 5a DeadlyDragons.esp 91 5b Lock Overhaul.esp 92 5c SkyRe_Combat.esp 93 5d TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 94 5e SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp 95 5f UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp 96 60 CACO_True Fortify Effects for Magic Skills.esp 97 61 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 98 62 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 99 63 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp100 64 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp101 65 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp102 66 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp103 67 RDO - CACO Patch.esp104 68 RDO - UFO v1.2i Patch.esp105 69 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp106 6a ELFX - Hardcore.esp107 6b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp108 6c Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp109 6d RSPatch.esp110 6e ReProccer.esp My Computer Specs MSI 1080 8gb Gaming X video cardIntel 7700k16gb 3200 hz ramWin 10 64bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 If LOOT shows dirty plug-ins, then first clean those with xedit. Dirty plug-ins usually means there's references in those plug-ins that either point to stuff that is already addressed by, say, the Unofficial Patch or references to things that aren't there. Either way, a dirty plug-in can lead to crashes. Not sure it will, but the possibility is there. Check this guide on how to go about things to clean dirty plug-ins with xedit. It's here on the Nexus in the SSE section but the explanation also handles regular Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeOil78 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 If LOOT shows dirty plug-ins, then first clean those with xedit. Dirty plug-ins usually means there's references in those plug-ins that either point to stuff that is already addressed by, say, the Unofficial Patch or references to things that aren't there. Either way, a dirty plug-in can lead to crashes. Not sure it will, but the possibility is there. Check this guide on how to go about things to clean dirty plug-ins with xedit. It's here on the Nexus in the SSE section but the explanation also handles regular Skyrim.So cleaning the mods worked thanks for the advise I shouldve done that from the start now I just gotta get Fnis to work right then I'm good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giintaras Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Even with FNIS it might still not work, simply because Helgen is designed to be in undamaged state in the cutscene before dragon comes in and destroys building partly, since the player would never face undamaged Helgen, but mods probably still attempt to modify game here comes the problem. Since the character actually gain access to control himself,all of this usually leads to flying horses, them being stuck and so on. My solutions for you would be, in case you don't want to disable the mods since this can also be game breaking, but worth trying, to use a mod such as Live another Life or Random Alternate Start. Which should'nt cause trouble.If you don't wan't to do that, you can also try getting a savegame from mod section called No More Helgen - Save Game. After loading it you can use console to customize your character with 'showracemenu' and 'setplayerrace' .Hope this help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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