CTD on fast travel after completing Companions quest

[mysteriousvirgin420]

I've tested this twice now. At first I thought it was a problem with my mods but now i'm not so sure. The first time this happened, I played through The Companions quest and after completing it and leaving Ysgramor I couldn't fast travel anywhere but Riverwood without a CTD. I ended up just loading an earlier save that happened to be before eliminating the silver hands. I played through again and finished, and when I tried to exit the Ysgramor temple this time I CTD right away! I've tried it a few times and I cant leave the temple at all without CTD. I suppose I can just not complete the quest and move on but if there is a fix I'd love to know it.

 

Edit: I loaded a save from right after I entered Ysgramor temple and tried to turn around and leave and CTD'd. Loaded a previous save again and everything was fine.

Edited December 9, 2017 by mysteriousvirgin420

[JimmyRJump]

Well, it could be anything, really. Maybe even just a bug in the game. But also as likely a mod conflict somewhere or even a load order issue.

 

Do you by any chance use LOOT to sort load order? If you don't, try it and see what gives.

[mysteriousvirgin420]

  On 12/9/2017 at 1:48 AM, mysteriousvirgin420 said:

I've tested this twice now. At first I thought it was a problem with my mods but now i'm not so sure. The first time this happened, I played through The Companions quest and after completing it and leaving Ysgramor I couldn't fast travel anywhere but Riverwood without a CTD. I ended up just loading an earlier save that happened to be before eliminating the silver hands. I played through again and finished, and when I tried to exit the Ysgramor temple this time I CTD right away! I've tried it a few times and I cant leave the temple at all without CTD. I suppose I can just not complete the quest and move on but if there is a fix I'd love to know it.

 

Edit: I loaded a save from right after I entered Ysgramor temple and tried to turn around and leave and CTD'd. Loaded a previous save again and everything was fine.

Yes, I do use loot. Here's my load order.

 

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp=1

AzarHair.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp=1

Nouserhere Ears.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

AzarHair.esp=1

Tembtra Thief Armor.esp=1

Northgirl.esp=1

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp=1

Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp=1

Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp=1

saLa_Hairs.esp=1

NosPiercedEarsAll.esp=1

Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp=1

Book of UUNP - Textures.esp=1

HentaiVoidArmor.esp=1

CollegeofWinterholdUpgraded.esp=1

CFTO.esp=1

HeljarchenFarm.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1

Immersive Wenches.esp=1

CandyShops.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1

HN66_Earrings.esp=1

BecomeABard.esp=1

ExpandedCarriageService.esp=1

CarryWeight x100.esp=1

better leveling.esp=1

icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp=1

RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp=1

princess riverwood cottage.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

unlimited shouts talos.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

ESPv1_1.esp=1

RimronAdaelFollower.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

[JimmyRJump]

KS Hairdo is normally sitting way higher. I don't use AzarHair but in my load order (184 plug-ins/273 mods) KS Hairdo is sitting at number 15 (16th in load order as the numbering starts at zero).

 

Make sure you have the latest version of LOOT to keep the up-to-date with the MasterList. The latter is the list LOOT uses to make out priorities of installed mods and working mods are added on a regular basis to keep the sorting tidy.

 

Question: do you by any chance use mods made for the non special edition of Skyrim? I mean mods with a plug-in (esp or esm). Texture mods without a plug-in can be used in both versions but mods with a plug-in (textures AND meshes) -while not harmful in the short term- can cause things to go pear-shaped after a while because of the difference in file form both editions use (43 for Oldrim; 44 for SSE).

 

Here's my load order for comparison (I'm level 40, 108 hours in the game without issues):

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm

8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp

9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

10 a Bring Out Your Dead.esp

11 b Ducks and Swans.esp

12 c Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp

13 d FNIS.esp

14 e Unique Character.esp

15 f KS Hairdo's.esp

16 10 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

17 11 Footprints.esp

18 12 SkyrimIsWindy.esp

19 13 Extended Character Creation Options.esp

20 14 CiceroFemaleSE.esp

21 15 Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp

22 16 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

23 17 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

24 18 Immersive Jewelry.esp

25 19 Metalsabers Beautiful Ladies of Skyrim.esp

26 1a Aesthetic Elisif.esp

27 1b CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp

28 1c MamTuskPowderGrind.esp

29 1d ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

30 1e Our Days & Months.esp

31 1f RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp

32 20 Hunters Not Bandits.esp

33 21 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

34 22 mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp

35 23 GoldToSeptims.esp

36 24 InfiniteShoutsTalosShrine.esp

37 25 MoreColorfulCritters.esp

38 26 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

39 27 Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

40 28 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

41 29 Bijin Warmaidens.esp

42 2a Metalsabers Beautiful Elves of Skyrim.esp

43 2b Fresh Faces - USSEP.esp

44 2c Bijin Wives.esp

45 2d SexyVest.esp

46 2e mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimSE.esp

47 2f HN66_Earrings.esp

48 30 NosPiercedEarsAll.esp

49 31 BetterTreasuryHouse.esp

50 32 MoreGourdsAndPotatoes.esp

51 33 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

52 34 Mammoths - Improved Loot - No Powder Recipe.esp

53 35 Brighter toggleable Candlelight and Torches.esp

54 36 XPMSSE.esp

55 37 HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp

56 38 DemonHunterArmor.esp

57 39 DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp

58 3a crimsonquestmarkers.esp

59 3b FasterHorses.esp

60 3c Cidhna Mine Both Rewards.esp

61 3d sandboxcylinderheight.esp

62 3e Projectile Speed Tweak.esp

63 3f BetterQuestObjectives.esp

64 40 PlantableNirnrootv03.esp

65 41 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp

66 42 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

67 43 timescale6.esp

68 44 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

69 45 Insignificant Object Remover.esp

70 46 Better Amulet of Talos.esp

71 47 Facelight.esp

72 48 MorrowindImports.esp

73 49 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp

74 4a SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp

75 4b DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

76 4c Dark_Brotherhood_V2.esp

77 4d No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp

78 4e UnrelentingForce700%.esp

79 4f StandingStonesBetterEffects.esp

80 50 Unlimited Training.esp

81 51 TrueAurielBow.esp

82 52 CriticalCorrection.esp

83 53 EbonyBlade - Potent.esp

84 54 CiriOutfit.esp

85 55 Tiwa-Spice-Mini-Merged.esp

86 56 nordicsnow.esp

87 57 KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp

88 58 Intriguante's Wear NO.esp

89 59 SkyUI_SE.esp

90 5a LazyHeels.esp

91 5b LazyCBP.esp

92 5c AngasMillReborn.esp

93 5d BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp

94 5e Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

95 5f ELFX - Weathers.esp

96 60 HearthFires Roads.esp

97 61 Convenient Bridges.esp

98 62 Point The Way.esp

99 63 Laundry.esp

100 64 Seashells.esp

101 65 more idle markers.esp

102 66 Windhelm Docks Pathways SE.esp

103 67 JKs Whiterun.esp

104 68 JK's Riverwood.esp

105 69 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

106 6a Run For Your Lives.esp

107 6b Deluxe ArchmageQuarters V1.3.esp

108 6c UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

109 6d SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp

110 6e RiversideLodge.esp

111 6f Darkwater Crossing.esp

112 70 Dawnstar.esp

113 71 WindstadMine.esp

114 72 Bijin NPCs.esp

115 73 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

116 74 BugJarReplacer.esp

117 75 Xploding Barrels.esp

118 76 Trees in Cities.esp

119 77 True Master Trainers (Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch).esp

120 78 Dolmen Ruins.esp

121 79 Shor's Stone.esp

122 7a Skyshards.esp

123 7b waterplants.esp

124 7c Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp

125 7d Mixwater Mill Reborn.esp

126 7e Solitude Skyway SE.esp

127 7f Ivarstead.esp

128 80 DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp

129 81 Helarchen Creek.esp

130 82 SPTUnlimitedRingsSE.esp

131 83 LeftHandRings.esp

132 84 SPTUnlimitedAmuletsSE.esp

133 85 greatswords.esp

134 86 FarmhouseChimneys.esp

135 87 Provincial Courier Service.esp

136 88 Kynesgrove.esp

137 89 Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

138 8a Whistling Mine.esp

139 8b Soljund's Sinkhole.esp

140 8c Karthwasten.esp

141 8d RealisticWaterTwo.esp

142 8e RWT Lod Fix.esp

143 8f Dragon Claw Stands.esp

144 90 Dragon Bridge.esp

145 91 Ars Metallica.esp

146 92 SkyrimRecycling.esp

147 93 Batch Crafting Recipes SE.esp

148 94 JLA_SmelterRecipe.esp

149 95 Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp

150 96 HN66_NAILS4ALL_GauntletSupportSSE.esp

151 97 HN66mage4vanilla.esp

152 98 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp

153 99 LADX_SSE.esp

154 9a EastmarchOreVeins.esp

155 9b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

156 9c HoldBorderBanners.esp

157 9d dragonstrikebow.esp

158 9e ESO Nord Weapons.esp

159 9f BooksOfSkyrim.esp

160 a0 Blowing in the Wind - JK's Riverwood Patch SSE.esp

161 a1 Blowing in the Wind - JK's Whiterun Patch SSE.esp

162 a2 FarmhouseChimneysArthmoorVillagesMerged.esp

163 a3 Road to Morthal.esp

164 a4 FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp

165 a5 CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp

166 a6 Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp

167 a7 Gildergreen Regrown.esp

168 a8 Bikini Armors.esp

169 a9 moonpath.esp

170 aa College Bridge Light Fix - Clean ITM and Remove Unnecessary Record.esp

171 ab FarmhouseChimneysHelarchenCreek.esp

172 ac Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE.esp

173 ad NWBNotStupid.esp

174 ae BetterGauldurAmulet.esp

175 af ECCO - Skyrim Sizes Patch.esp

176 b0 Skyrim Sizes.esp

177 b1 DarkerNights.esp

178 b2 Dolomite Weathers.esp

179 b3 DarkerNights-DolomiteWeathers.esp

180 b4 Marie Serana.esp

181 b5 Serana Hood Removal.esp

182 b6 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

183 b7 WestWindAssault.esp

 

 

[mysteriousvirgin420]

  On 12/10/2017 at 12:31 AM, JimmyRJump said:

KS Hairdo is normally sitting way higher. I don't use AzarHair but in my load order (184 plug-ins/273 mods) KS Hairdo is sitting at number 15 (16th in load order as the numbering starts at zero).

 

Make sure you have the latest version of LOOT to keep the up-to-date with the MasterList. The latter is the list LOOT uses to make out priorities of installed mods and working mods are added on a regular basis to keep the sorting tidy.

 

Question: do you by any chance use mods made for the non special edition of Skyrim? I mean mods with a plug-in (esp or esm). Texture mods without a plug-in can be used in both versions but mods with a plug-in (textures AND meshes) -while not harmful in the short term- can cause things to go pear-shaped after a while because of the difference in file form both editions use (43 for Oldrim; 44 for SSE).

 

Here's my load order for comparison (I'm level 40, 108 hours in the game without issues):

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm

8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp

9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

10 a Bring Out Your Dead.esp

11 b Ducks and Swans.esp

12 c Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp

13 d FNIS.esp

14 e Unique Character.esp

15 f KS Hairdo's.esp

16 10 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

17 11 Footprints.esp

18 12 SkyrimIsWindy.esp

19 13 Extended Character Creation Options.esp

20 14 CiceroFemaleSE.esp

21 15 Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp

22 16 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

23 17 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

24 18 Immersive Jewelry.esp

25 19 Metalsabers Beautiful Ladies of Skyrim.esp

26 1a Aesthetic Elisif.esp

27 1b CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp

28 1c MamTuskPowderGrind.esp

29 1d ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

30 1e Our Days & Months.esp

31 1f RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp

32 20 Hunters Not Bandits.esp

33 21 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

34 22 mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp

35 23 GoldToSeptims.esp

36 24 InfiniteShoutsTalosShrine.esp

37 25 MoreColorfulCritters.esp

38 26 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

39 27 Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

40 28 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

41 29 Bijin Warmaidens.esp

42 2a Metalsabers Beautiful Elves of Skyrim.esp

43 2b Fresh Faces - USSEP.esp

44 2c Bijin Wives.esp

45 2d SexyVest.esp

46 2e mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimSE.esp

47 2f HN66_Earrings.esp

48 30 NosPiercedEarsAll.esp

49 31 BetterTreasuryHouse.esp

50 32 MoreGourdsAndPotatoes.esp

51 33 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

52 34 Mammoths - Improved Loot - No Powder Recipe.esp

53 35 Brighter toggleable Candlelight and Torches.esp

54 36 XPMSSE.esp

55 37 HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp

56 38 DemonHunterArmor.esp

57 39 DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp

58 3a crimsonquestmarkers.esp

59 3b FasterHorses.esp

60 3c Cidhna Mine Both Rewards.esp

61 3d sandboxcylinderheight.esp

62 3e Projectile Speed Tweak.esp

63 3f BetterQuestObjectives.esp

64 40 PlantableNirnrootv03.esp

65 41 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp

66 42 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

67 43 timescale6.esp

68 44 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

69 45 Insignificant Object Remover.esp

70 46 Better Amulet of Talos.esp

71 47 Facelight.esp

72 48 MorrowindImports.esp

73 49 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp

74 4a SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp

75 4b DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

76 4c Dark_Brotherhood_V2.esp

77 4d No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp

78 4e UnrelentingForce700%.esp

79 4f StandingStonesBetterEffects.esp

80 50 Unlimited Training.esp

81 51 TrueAurielBow.esp

82 52 CriticalCorrection.esp

83 53 EbonyBlade - Potent.esp

84 54 CiriOutfit.esp

85 55 Tiwa-Spice-Mini-Merged.esp

86 56 nordicsnow.esp

87 57 KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp

88 58 Intriguante's Wear NO.esp

89 59 SkyUI_SE.esp

90 5a LazyHeels.esp

91 5b LazyCBP.esp

92 5c AngasMillReborn.esp

93 5d BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp

94 5e Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

95 5f ELFX - Weathers.esp

96 60 HearthFires Roads.esp

97 61 Convenient Bridges.esp

98 62 Point The Way.esp

99 63 Laundry.esp

100 64 Seashells.esp

101 65 more idle markers.esp

102 66 Windhelm Docks Pathways SE.esp

103 67 JKs Whiterun.esp

104 68 JK's Riverwood.esp

105 69 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

106 6a Run For Your Lives.esp

107 6b Deluxe ArchmageQuarters V1.3.esp

108 6c UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

109 6d SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp

110 6e RiversideLodge.esp

111 6f Darkwater Crossing.esp

112 70 Dawnstar.esp

113 71 WindstadMine.esp

114 72 Bijin NPCs.esp

115 73 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

116 74 BugJarReplacer.esp

117 75 Xploding Barrels.esp

118 76 Trees in Cities.esp

119 77 True Master Trainers (Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch).esp

120 78 Dolmen Ruins.esp

121 79 Shor's Stone.esp

122 7a Skyshards.esp

123 7b waterplants.esp

124 7c Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp

125 7d Mixwater Mill Reborn.esp

126 7e Solitude Skyway SE.esp

127 7f Ivarstead.esp

128 80 DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp

129 81 Helarchen Creek.esp

130 82 SPTUnlimitedRingsSE.esp

131 83 LeftHandRings.esp

132 84 SPTUnlimitedAmuletsSE.esp

133 85 greatswords.esp

134 86 FarmhouseChimneys.esp

135 87 Provincial Courier Service.esp

136 88 Kynesgrove.esp

137 89 Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

138 8a Whistling Mine.esp

139 8b Soljund's Sinkhole.esp

140 8c Karthwasten.esp

141 8d RealisticWaterTwo.esp

142 8e RWT Lod Fix.esp

143 8f Dragon Claw Stands.esp

144 90 Dragon Bridge.esp

145 91 Ars Metallica.esp

146 92 SkyrimRecycling.esp

147 93 Batch Crafting Recipes SE.esp

148 94 JLA_SmelterRecipe.esp

149 95 Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp

150 96 HN66_NAILS4ALL_GauntletSupportSSE.esp

151 97 HN66mage4vanilla.esp

152 98 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp

153 99 LADX_SSE.esp

154 9a EastmarchOreVeins.esp

155 9b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

156 9c HoldBorderBanners.esp

157 9d dragonstrikebow.esp

158 9e ESO Nord Weapons.esp

159 9f BooksOfSkyrim.esp

160 a0 Blowing in the Wind - JK's Riverwood Patch SSE.esp

161 a1 Blowing in the Wind - JK's Whiterun Patch SSE.esp

162 a2 FarmhouseChimneysArthmoorVillagesMerged.esp

163 a3 Road to Morthal.esp

164 a4 FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp

165 a5 CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp

166 a6 Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp

167 a7 Gildergreen Regrown.esp

168 a8 Bikini Armors.esp

169 a9 moonpath.esp

170 aa College Bridge Light Fix - Clean ITM and Remove Unnecessary Record.esp

171 ab FarmhouseChimneysHelarchenCreek.esp

172 ac Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE.esp

173 ad NWBNotStupid.esp

174 ae BetterGauldurAmulet.esp

175 af ECCO - Skyrim Sizes Patch.esp

176 b0 Skyrim Sizes.esp

177 b1 DarkerNights.esp

178 b2 Dolomite Weathers.esp

179 b3 DarkerNights-DolomiteWeathers.esp

180 b4 Marie Serana.esp

181 b5 Serana Hood Removal.esp

182 b6 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

183 b7 WestWindAssault.esp

 

 

I dont think I have any other mods with a plugin. That list is everything I have. Also, I re-loaded my order on Loot but it only moved the KS Hairstyles up one slot, right above alternate start. I'm very new to mods, i've only been playing the PC version of Skyrim for about a month. I really appreciate you trying to help me out! I'm sure I will figure this out eventually.