CTD on barter initiation. 110 active mods.

[badger1243]

Having an issue with my current mod setup, I assume it's load order issue or maybe a compatibility issue but I'm not sure, the papyrus log I can't really understand and is really long due to the amount of mods I have I would assume and SSEEdit doesn't come up with any errors either, all I know is when I walk up to a vendor, Lucan or Alvor for example in Riverwood, and select the "what you got for sale" option to barter, I get instant CTD as soon as I click it. My load order is sorted by Loot as I'm not experienced or knowledgeable enough to really do it myself manually but I do know sometimes Loot can be wrong. I'll paste my load order below and I can link the papyrus log too if anyone is interested in trying to make sense of that.

 

*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
*ApachiiHair.esm
*BSAssets.esm
*BSHeartland.esm
*SkyMoMod.esm
*BS_DLC_patch.esp
*Campfire.esm
*Cutting Room Floor.esp
*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
*dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
*dD-Medium Script Range.esp
*Unique Uniques.esp
*FNIS.esp
*Bijin AIO.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
*RLO - Interiors.esp
*RLO - Effects.esp
*RLO - CRF Patch.esp
*Vivid WeathersSE.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives.esp
*iNeed.esp
*iNeed - Extended.esp
*RLO - Exteriors.esp
*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
*Point The Way.esp
*TheChoiceIsYours.esp
*JKs Whiterun.esp
*JK's Riverwood.esp
*Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
*Run For Your Lives.esp
*Cloaks.esp
*Tentapalooza.esp
*YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
*Hunterborn.esp
*Frostfall.esp
*notice board.esp
*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
*Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
*Better Vampires.esp
*RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
*mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp
*Ars Metallica.esp
*sandboxcylinderheight.esp
*RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp
*Simply Stronger Dragons.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
*Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
*RLO - JK's Whiterun.esp
*WeightLessTrueAll.esp
*RLO - JK's Riverwood.esp
*Simple AUA.esp
*Footprints.esp
*dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
*XPMSSE.esp
*AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
*Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
*DarkerNights.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
*ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
*imp_helm_legend.esp
*Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
*NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
*Realistic-Voice.esp
*SkyHUD.esp
*FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
*No NPC Greetings.esp
*YOT - Frostfall Module.esp
*YOT - iNeed.esp
*Dynamic Camera.esp
*YOT - Hunterborn.esp
*Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp
*Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
*BVFE.esp
*Proper Aiming.esp
*Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp
*Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp
*Celtic Music in Skyrim - Combat.esp
*Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE_Dungeon.esp
*R246 Female Presets.esp
*Skyrim Sizes.esp
*Visible Favorited Gear.esp
*Runandwalkpaces.esp
*SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
*Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
*PumpingIron.esp
*Spouse Daily Routine.esp
*VendorComments.esp
*Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
*Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
*RLO - IC Patch.esp
*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
*RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
*RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
*Hunters Not Bandits.esp
*Bruma - Alternate Start.esp
*icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

 

 

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can possibly provide.

[JimmyRJump]

Such a CTD can have many causes. You can have mods installed that were originally made for Skyrim and haven't been converted to the SE properly, or you might even have installed some Oldrim mods manually. As long as those Oldrim mods are textures only, there should't be a problem as there's no plug-in involved. However, mods that have also meshes and thus a plug-in must be converted properly in the Special Edition Creation Kit to change the old file form (43) to the new one (44).

 

The CTD could also be the cause of bad sorting. If not already, use LOOT for load order purposes.

 

There's quite a few mods in your load order that have issues and which I passed on because of the bug reports. Not saying those are "bad" mods, I just like to avoid them to stay reasonably safe.

 

Then there's mods that could need SKSE64 without the latter being installed.

 

One mod in your lot that sticks out as being a possible candidate for causing your instant CTD is the VendorComments.esp since that one is directly related to vendors and their speech. Disable it and reload your game to see what happens.

 

 

Also, try to use

tags when adding large chunks of text :wink:

 

[badger1243]

Such a CTD can have many causes. You can have mods installed that were originally made for Skyrim and haven't been converted to the SE properly, or you might even have installed some Oldrim mods manually. As long as those Oldrim mods are textures only, there should't be a problem as there's no plug-in involved. However, mods that have also meshes and thus a plug-in must be converted properly in the Special Edition Creation Kit to change the old file form (43) to the new one (44).

 

The CTD could also be the cause of bad sorting. If not already, use LOOT for load order purposes.

 

There's quite a few mods in your load order that have issues and which I passed on because of the bug reports. Not saying those are "bad" mods, I just like to avoid them to stay reasonably safe.

 

Then there's mods that could need SKSE64 without the latter being installed.

 

One mod in your lot that sticks out as being a possible candidate for causing your instant CTD is the VendorComments.esp since that one is directly related to vendors and their speech. Disable it and reload your game to see what happens.

 

 

Also, try to use

tags when adding large chunks of text :wink:

 

Thanks for the help and sorry for the late reply. Disabling and uninstalling vendor comments did not solve the issue and I know SKSE64 wasn't an issue because I had that properly installed for the mods that required it and most everything was installed via NMM through the skyrim se nexus mods so nothing was oldrim. I'm not entirely sure what the issue is but I'm gonna start from scratch and reinstall and reselect mods for my playthrough and take into consideration mods that could have issues as you stated. Thank you for your help.