Major acrobatics/sneak attack bug

[sam888]

Hello. I have reached 50 journeyman acrobatics, but I can no longer do regular sneak attack. Whenever I just attack regularly in sneak mode, I ALWAYS do a power attack, which consumes way more fatigue, has much slower swing and does the same damage compared to regular sneak attacks. In console, I have done some testing. I loaded a save game with 49 acrobatics, and I could do regular attacks in sneak mode. Then I increased acrobatics to 50 in console, I could no longer to regular attacks. Every attack is a power attack.

 

I disabled all the mods and started a fresh game, and this still happens. I used console to change my acrobatics to 50. As soon I become a journeyman of acrobatics or higher, I'm forced to do power attack even if I do a normal attack in sneak mode. Of course this bug affects all blade and blunt weapons, 1 handed or 2 handed. Bows do not have power attack so they are not related to this bug.

 

This bug is a big let down of the game. I need a fix to this please.

[nosisab]

Hello. I have reached 50 journeyman acrobatics, but I can no longer do regular sneak attack. Whenever I just attack regularly in sneak mode, I ALWAYS do a power attack, which consumes way more fatigue, has much slower swing and does the same damage compared to regular sneak attacks. In console, I have done some testing. I loaded a save game with 49 acrobatics, and I could do regular attacks in sneak mode. Then I increased acrobatics to 50 in console, I could no longer to regular attacks. Every attack is a power attack.

 

I disabled all the mods and started a fresh game, and this still happens. I used console to change my acrobatics to 50. As soon I become a journeyman of acrobatics or higher, I'm forced to do power attack even if I do a normal attack in sneak mode. Of course this bug affects all blade and blunt weapons, 1 handed or 2 handed. Bows do not have power attack so they are not related to this bug.

 

This bug is a big let down of the game. I need a fix to this please.

I saw this once. It isn't a bug, indeed is something related to the keys associated in the game controls option. Almost certain this was changed by some mod, possibly Deadly reflex or something alike... and is yet in your Oblivion.ini even after removing the mods.

 

Edit: open the options menu, go to where you change keys and fix what is wrong there.

look mainly for duplicated keys associations.

 

Edit2: this is common issue when some message box appears asking for pressing a key and so is substituted by another box before the former being set. Or just the user press the wrong key. Because this Deadly reflex have an item in the player inventory meant to bring back the setup menu allowing changing those keys associations.

[sam888]

Thanks for the reply. I do not use deadly reflex. However I use hov's hotkey and quick wardrobe updated, and various pose mods, such as actors in charge, etc. I even disabled all the esp and ran Oblivion without OBSE, and a fresh game, this still happens. However, I do not know the exact cause, you gave me very good hint. I will try to look for the problem, and meanwhile, if anyone can help me it will be greatly appreciated.

[nosisab]

Thanks for the reply. I do not use deadly reflex. However I use hov's hotkey and quick wardrobe updated, and various pose mods, such as actors in charge, etc. I even disabled all the esp and ran Oblivion without OBSE, and a fresh game, this still happens. However, I do not know the exact cause, you gave me very good hint. I will try to look for the problem, and meanwhile, if anyone can help me it will be greatly appreciated.

As I said, anything that changed the keys associated to the actions changed then for good ... the changes are yet there, even after removing whatever changed then.

 

you can fix this yourself in the options menu of the game... can do this even while playing bringing the menu with the scape (Esc) key

or you can copy the Oblivion_default.ini from your install directory to the c:\my documents......\Oblivion. rename the Oblivion.ini already there and rename this copied one to Oblivion.ini. I don't advise this option except if unavoidable.

 

Very much better is just fix a few keys in the options.

[sam888]

Yes, I have just changed the key I think may caused this. However, this still exists. I tried resetting the control keys in game, it doesn't work.

 

I will explain what keys Hov's hotkey and quick wardrobe updated changed.

 

Hov's hotkey:

Didn't change any original control keys, but I set so it uses numpad 1, 2, and 3 for 3 spells.

 

Quick wardrobe:

I have to press V + 1-8 num keys to change a complete set of equipment. Since this is done by pressing V and the num keys, it doesn't conflict I think.

 

I also looked through oblivion.ini and compared with oblivion_default.ini, and did not find any changes associated to changing control keys. If anyone might need, here's my setting in [controls] setion in oblivion.ini

 

[Controls]

fVersion=1.8000

iLanguage=0

bBackground Mouse=0

bBackground Keyboard=0

bUse Joystick=1

Forward=0011FFFF

Back=001FFFFF

SlideLeft=001EFFFF

SlideRight=0020FFFF

Use=002C00FF

Activate=0039FFFF

Block=003801FF

Cast=002EFFFF

Ready Item=0021FFFF

Crouch/Sneak=001DFFFF

Run=002AFFFF

Always Run=003AFFFF

Auto Move=0010FFFF

Jump=0012FFFF

Toggle POV=001302FF

Menu Mode=000FFFFF

Rest=0014FFFF

Quick Menu=003BFFFF

Quick1=0002FFFF

Quick2=0003FFFF

Quick3=0004FFFF

Quick4=0005FFFF

Quick5=0006FFFF

Quick6=0007FFFF

Quick7=0008FFFF

Quick8=0009FFFF

QuickSave=003FFFFF

QuickLoad=0043FFFF

Grab=0022FFFF

bInvertYValues=0

fJoystickLookLRMult=0.0200

fJoystickLookUDMult=0.0200

fJoystickMoveLRMult=1.0000

fJoystickMoveFBMult=1.0000

fMouseSensitivity=0.0031

iJoystickLookLeftRight=3

iJoystickLookUpDown=6

iJoystickMoveLeftRight=1

iJoystickMoveFrontBack=2

fXenonMenuStickMapCursorMinSpeed=1.0000

fXenonMenuStickMapCursorMaxSpeed=15.0000

fXenonMenuStickMapCursorGamma=0.1700

fXenonMenuStickSpeedPlayerRotMod=3000.0000

fXenonMenuStickSpeedMaxMod=5.0000

fXenonMenuDpadRepeatSpeed=300.0000

fXenonMenuStickSpeed=300.0000

iXenonMenuStickDeadZone=15000

fXenonMenuMouseXYMult=0.0003

 

Edit: Worst thing is, I replaced oblivion.ini with oblivion_default.ini renamed to oblivion.ini, and it didn't fix this problem.

[nosisab]

Yes, I have just changed the key I think may caused this. However, this still exists.

This problem is related to keys ... very Seldom can be even some joystick/joypad attached to the machine, yet when related to then the common symptom is the character moving for itself, yet....

 

Since this is an issue related to your Oblivion.ini and you can't find key(s) causing it, the second option, copying the Oblivion_default.ini from your oblivion installation to the /my documents... one and renaming is the way to go now.

 

It this fails too you have a very corrupted game and maybe the better is reinstall the whole game. for obvious reasons I advise this only after everything else failed.

 

Just keep in mind that even reinstalling it without care, the 'whatever' is causing trouble 'survive' for the uninstall doesn't delete the .ini(s) neither the /data contents.

[nosisab]

sorry your post came while I was writing the former.

In your Oblivion.ini I see

bUse Joystick=1

change this to 0 and try again.

[sam888]

sorry your post came while I was writing the former.

In your Oblivion.ini I see

bUse Joystick=1

change this to 0 and try again.

 

I have just tried that, it didn't work.

[nosisab]

sorry your post came while I was writing the former.

In your Oblivion.ini I see

bUse Joystick=1

change this to 0 and try again.

 

I have just tried that, it didn't work.

Well, I can't figure anything else anymore

maybe someone knows something more about this particular issue.

good luck

[Sypron]

I doubt this is related to the use of keys or mods, since the problem occurs when no mods are loaded/saved, and the keys are at the default. I presume it is a glitch that is part of the game itself, but no one has really noticed. I'll admit, I noticed it happen too, but I always assumed it was because my sneak skill got to a certain level, not acrobatics.