Saltheart Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Though I had my Steam options for Skyrim set to Do not automatically update this game, I got the 1.5 patch anyway. The patch "fixed" the Smithing skill all right . . . If you are not already at 100 you soon will be. Improving 6 hunting bows raised my Smithing skill from 47 to 64 and my character level from 25 to 27 (self-nerfing to only improve what I find and not buying crafting supplies). This happens with and without my Boyd's Better Balance Smithing and Leveling mods installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty1976 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 i don't have that many mods and barely any world mods (no kill moves) I am getting lots of crashes particularly when moving between environments. Will have to go through and enable/disable each mod one by one. what a pain in the arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athyra Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) I have a mod that modifies smithing.Apparently the update silently changed smithing leveling rates and didn't mention that.(You can see it in the details using tesVsnip or CK)Now I have to figure out how to fix that ... since crafting a dagger puts me up 30 levels now. Silently changing things ... not cool. EDIT: Found the problem!! The update changes Skill Use Mult in Smithing to 1 ... in all former versions of skyrim it was 160it also changes "fTemperingSkillUseMult" from original 2 to 1 These are two major changes for any mod that changes leveling speed or modifies the smithing tree!! Edited March 21, 2012 by Athyra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxHacker Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Though I had my Steam options for Skyrim set to Do not automatically update this game, I got the 1.5 patch anyway. The patch "fixed" the Smithing skill all right . . . If you are not already at 100 you soon will be. Improving 6 hunting bows raised my Smithing skill from 47 to 64 and my character level from 25 to 27 (self-nerfing to only improve what I find and not buying crafting supplies). This happens with and without my Boyd's Better Balance Smithing and Leveling mods installed. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DucksAreReal Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Ever since the patch, the main menu wont't show up for me. Just the dragon symbol and black background. Any idea how to fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athyra Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) does the hyper smithing leveling happen even with zero mods loaded?i haven't tried that yet. I modified my own mods to clone the effect of the update.esm. That made everything go back to normal! Slow leveling as usual! Edited March 21, 2012 by Athyra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopReference Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have a mod that modifies smithing.Apparently the update silently changed smithing leveling rates and didn't mention that.(You can see it in the details using tesVsnip or CK)Now I have to figure out how to fix that ... since crafting a dagger puts me up 30 levels now. Silently changing things ... not cool. EDIT: Found the problem!! The update changes Skill Use Mult in Smithing to 1 ... in all former versions of skyrim it was 160it also changes "fTemperingSkillUseMult" from original 2 to 1 These are two major changes for any mod that changes leveling speed or modifies the smithing tree!!It's good you found the problem, but your wrong about the silent change part, it's #4 on the new features list: "New features New cinematic kill cameras for projectile weapons and spells New kill moves and animations for melee weapons Shadows on grass available (PC) Smithing skill increases now factor in the created item’s value Improved visual transition when going underwater Improved distance LOD transition for snowy landscapes" Obviously it wasn't a great fix or well tested, but you can blame the beta testers for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle8 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I got the same problem, so how do I fix it? I have a mod that modifies smithing.Apparently the update silently changed smithing leveling rates and didn't mention that.(You can see it in the details using tesVsnip or CK)Now I have to figure out how to fix that ... since crafting a dagger puts me up 30 levels now. Silently changing things ... not cool. EDIT: Found the problem!! The update changes Skill Use Mult in Smithing to 1 ... in all former versions of skyrim it was 160it also changes "fTemperingSkillUseMult" from original 2 to 1 These are two major changes for any mod that changes leveling speed or modifies the smithing tree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltheart Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I have a mod that modifies smithing.Apparently the update silently changed smithing leveling rates and didn't mention that.(You can see it in the details using tesVsnip or CK)Now I have to figure out how to fix that ... since crafting a dagger puts me up 30 levels now. Silently changing things ... not cool. EDIT: Found the problem!! The update changes Skill Use Mult in Smithing to 1 ... in all former versions of skyrim it was 160it also changes "fTemperingSkillUseMult" from original 2 to 1 These are two major changes for any mod that changes leveling speed or modifies the smithing tree!! Hmm, I created a Fix Smithing mod to incorporate those changes and loaded it right after the update esm but it made no difference. I compared the Boyd's Better Balance Leveling mod to the base file and it already has different values in Smithing, the fTemperingSkillUse variables, the fConstructibleSkillUse variables, and the fXP variables. There has to be another setting not adjusted by BBB because I have the same issue with and without it installed. I guess I'm going crosseyed here because I can't find the crucial setting. Ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus2845 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I have a mod that modifies smithing.Apparently the update silently changed smithing leveling rates and didn't mention that.(You can see it in the details using tesVsnip or CK)Now I have to figure out how to fix that ... since crafting a dagger puts me up 30 levels now. Silently changing things ... not cool. EDIT: Found the problem!! The update changes Skill Use Mult in Smithing to 1 ... in all former versions of skyrim it was 160it also changes "fTemperingSkillUseMult" from original 2 to 1 These are two major changes for any mod that changes leveling speed or modifies the smithing tree!!It's good you found the problem, but your wrong about the silent change part, it's #4 on the new features list: "New features New cinematic kill cameras for projectile weapons and spells New kill moves and animations for melee weapons Shadows on grass available (PC) Smithing skill increases now factor in the created item’s value Improved visual transition when going underwater Improved distance LOD transition for snowy landscapes" Obviously it wasn't a great fix or well tested, but you can blame the beta testers for that one. Except i played the beta for a week straight, had no crashes, and smithing is dreadfully slow crafting anything worth less than 250 gold. Either I'm really really lucky, am careful about the mods I use and their possible incompatibilities, or some things changed drastically between the beta 1.5 and the official 1.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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