lethielnyrond Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I shouldn't have done it. I know. It said in the description, Skyrim 1.5.3 required, and as far as I know I'm still on 1.5.23. It was a mistake, I admit it, I grovel if necessary and will sit in the corner wearing the DUNCE hat for as long as required. But now that it's done, there doesn't seem any way of fixing it. Nowhere can I find the older version of USSEP, nowhere can I find SSE version 1.5.3. There doesn't seem to be a beta I can get into. And meanwhile I'm having problems crafting or riding a horse, I'm getting a CTD trying to go back into Broken Oar Grotto which I've cleared once, and Jordis my follower is flailing about in mid-air. I don't know whether the change in USSEP is responsible for any or all of this, but it's the only thing I've changed recently. I've tried saving and reloading. I've tried turning the computer off and on again. I have verified the integrity of my game cache, downloaded everything again and cleaned everything again in SSEEdit. Nothing makes a difference. I'm going to start a new game and see if that makes things work properly, but I'm not optimistic. So if anyone can point me in the direction either of SSE 1.5.3, or USSEP 4.1.0, I would be very very grateful. Thanks,Lethiel P.S. I know it's meant kindly, but the correct answer to this query is not "just get rid of some/all your mods and your game will work fine." My game was working as well as I needed it to with all my mods. I want to get back to that, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardo2 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 If I were you I would update SSE via Steam then go here to download the latest USSEP and this is the reason why you should update via Steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 Erm, yes, and that is indeed exactly what I did. Except that updating SSE via Steam is a non-starter because I already have the latest version that Steam is offering me. Which is not 1.5.3, but 1.5.23, as I have just verified by looking at the version number I downloaded today. I am forced to the conclusion that either there is a newer version of SSE that is not on Steam yet, or there's a beta to which I cannot gain access, or Arthmoor has started creating versions of USSEP to be compatible with versions of SSE that haven't been released yet. Not sure which of those is least likely. Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Guys. I don't know how many times it needs to be said before people understand this, but 1.5.3 is older by a long shot than 1.5.23. That's TWENTY THREE, not some other number. 23 is larger than 3. You have the correct version of SSE installed. Whatever your problem is, it didn't come from USSEP. You either got a corrupt download from Nexus (wouldn't be surprising) or it's gotten itself into a bad load order position. Nothing we did with this last update could possibly have affected all those things you say are wrong. We get people claiming they only updated our patch ALL THE TIME and it turns out to be false every single time. Something else updated too. You just didn't notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 Ah, my mistake, then. I was thinking of the way computers read numbers, since they would always assume that 3 was larger than 23 ("1, 10, 11, 12...19, 2, 20, 21..." I see it all the time, and I've learned the value of a leading zero). So USSEP is okay. Good news. It was the only thing I changed in that pass, but I'll see how the new playthrough goes and if any of those symptoms show up again. Its load order position is 5, directly after the official DLC and before EFFCore and other mod-based esms. That's the usual place, I think. Thank you for putting me straight. Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Actually, no, computers don't see 23 as smaller than 3 either. Not sure where you got that idea from. It would break pretty much every mathematical calculation on a computer if that could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebbalon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 0.3 is larger than 0.23 I think is what was meant.Also agree with the leading zero in program versioning - would help reduce this type of confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Thank you. That was what, in this context, I did mean, although it happens in other contexts as well. Several story folders on my computer used to list files "Chapter 1, Chapter 10, Chapter 11..." and so on, till I made it a habit to put in the zero. It's something that computers have done for so many years, listing filenames by alphanumeric value left to right, that I'm a little surprised that Arthmoor's clearly never encountered it. He must be used to working with much more sophisticated computers than I ever have. :) Never mind. The issue is provisionally resolved, and USSEP is cleared of all charges. That's the main thing. Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebbalon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Yeah that's just alphanumeric sorting ...r space 10 sorts before ...r space 2.Arthmoor knows!With program versioning each decimal denotes major and minor version numbers etc. The values can be anything really - 1.zero.ABC.03.bacon - whatever, as long as it increments up for next version. (what would be greater than bacon though!?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Well, then my confusion is at least understandable, no? :) Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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