Consistent crashing just started halfway through playthrough

[RoaringPenguin]

I had been having a well-performing playthrough (completed Dragon rising, some Thieves guild, general dungeons) with almost no problems whatsoever. However, after completing the red eagle quest and leaving rebel's cairn I have been experiencing many CTDs in short spans of time (usually within 5 mins of loading the game) for no apparent reason (some occuring on loading screens, others during playtime)

 

Load order (sorted by loot)

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 BSAssets.esm

8 8 BSHeartland.esm

9 9 BSPatchSE.esp

10 a BS_DLC_patch.esp

11 b Campfire.esm

12 c Falskaar.esm

13 d GameOfThronesArmors.esm

14 e Cutting Room Floor.esp

15 f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

16 10 Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp

17 11 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

18 12 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

19 13 iNeed.esp

20 14 iNeed - Extended.esp

21 15 3DNPC.esp

22 16 Book Covers Skyrim.esp

23 17 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp

24 18 Blues Skyrim.esp

25 19 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

26 1a Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

27 1b Helgen Reborn.esp

28 1c Undeath.esp

29 1d OBIS SE.esp

30 1e Man Those Borders!.esp

31 1f Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

32 20 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

33 21 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

34 22 Holidays.esp

35 23 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

36 24 Run For Your Lives.esp

37 25 Cloaks.esp

38 26 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

39 27 1nivWICCloaks.esp

40 28 Inigo.esp

41 29 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

42 2a Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

43 2b PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

44 2c Immersive Patrols II.esp

45 2d Joy of Perspective.esp

46 2e JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp

47 2f YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp

YOT - Campfire.esp

48 30 YOT - iNeed.esp

49 31 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp

50 32 Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp

51 33 Hunterborn.esp

52 34 Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp

53 35 Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp

54 36 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

55 37 Provincial Courier Service.esp

56 38 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp

Blowing in the Wind - RLO Major City Exteriors Patch SSE.esp

57 39 notice board.esp

58 3a ForgottenCity.esp

59 3b PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

60 3c draugrweap_standa_en.esp

61 3d BetterQuestObjectives.esp

62 3e DBM_CRF_Patch.esp

63 3f DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp

64 40 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

65 41 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp

66 42 HoldBorderBanners.esp

67 43 DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp

68 44 Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp

Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp

69 45 Gildergreen Regrown.esp

70 46 OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp

71 47 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

72 48 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

73 49 WetandCold.esp

74 4a Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

75 4b dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

76 4c dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

77 4d Footprints.esp

78 4e WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp

79 4f Unique Uniques.esp

80 50 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

81 51 VioLens SE.esp

82 52 VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp

83 53 When Vampires Attack.esp

84 54 sandboxcylinderheight.esp

85 55 Realistic-Voice.esp

86 56 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

87 57 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

88 58 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

89 59 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

90 5a ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

91 5b Visible Favorited Gear.esp

92 5c Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp

93 5d NB-Scars.esp

94 5e OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp

95 5f Ars Metallica.esp

96 60 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

97 61 Faction Crossbows.esp

98 62 Dr_Bandolier.esp

99 63 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

100 64 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

101 65 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

102 66 BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp

103 67 AMatterOfTime.esp

104 68 SimplyKnock.esp

105 69 JaxonzRenamer.esp

106 6a MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp

107 6b DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp

108 6c DBM_IA_Patch.esp

109 6d DBM_HA_Patch.esp

110 6e DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp

111 6f DBM_ISC_Patch.esp

112 70 SkyUI_SE.esp

113 71 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

114 72 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

115 73 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

116 74 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

117 75 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

118 76 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

119 77 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

120 78 RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

I have got no idea what is causing these crashes and have already tried some methods: (turning off touch keyboard) and (turning off SSE fixes and high quality world map).

I run the game in SKSE and like i have said have experienced no problems prior to this.

[jones177]

Hi

 

First find out if the CTDs are in your save or in your game. Create a new character & see if you get CTDs.

 

Saves as they get older need more resources. Surprisingly NPCs use up a lot of resource & it takes just one too many in a cell to cause a CTD. Having 6 or more gbs vram & 16 gbs ram helps.

 

Some of the perks in Ordinator conflict with other mods. The conflicts don't show up until you select the perk. It is easy to spot in the papyrus log & removing the perk fixes it. It is the only reason I do the Dragon Born DLC.

Skyrim Immersive Creatures has a few monsters that conflict. You can switch them off in the MCM.

 

Spawning mods like Immersive Patrols II can make a cell a no go area for up to 3 in game days. All you can do is go an other way.

 

Your load list is a mine field of possible CTDs. So is mine. At least once a month I trash either Skyrim SE or Fallout 4. Fixing them is part of the game.

 

Later

[3aq]

overworld/exterior ctds is usually from a corrupt/missing texture, least in my experiences. I would start off there.

 

If you got MO2 select the "contains textures" category and then disable all textures. start up your sse, if it doesn't crash, then it's definitely due to textures. re enable a set of 50, and fire up sse, see if it crashes, keep doing that until you can pinpoint which set crashed, then enable that set of 50 by 10, keep doing that until you crash, eventually you'll find your culprit.

 

afterwards its up to you what you do with it, you may either try and fix it via extracting or removing the necessary textures and nif optimizing it, or simply remove it altogether.

[leonardo2]

I just posted in a similar thread.

[magus55x]

forgive me if they are, but are your master files cleaned?

 

if they are not, that could be the source of your ctd.

 

otherwise, try and re create the crash. if you consistently crash in the same place, check off mods until you dont crash there anymore.

[sopmac45]

I see a lot of patches in your load order and they have been placed in the middle of it; if I am not mistaken, patches must be placed at the bottom of your load order and I agree with jones177, those two mods about creatures and immersive patrols, may be the reason of your CTD's. Personally, I tried them both before and I was getting CTD's. Not in my list anymore. Icepenguinwoldmap must be placed up in your load order as well. Your load order does not looks right. You also have two mods related to cloaks and when you have two mods doing the same thing, there will be a conflict for sure. I recommend to keep only one.

 

Would not be a bad idea if you clean the game cache in Steam ( right click on the game, go to Properties, Local Files and clean cache ); after that, clean your master files via SSEEdit and do not forget to clean Dawnguard twice and on the second time that you do it, you have to manually remove some records. This procedure is available in Steam and I suggest that you bookmark it so you may need it in the future.

 

LOOT is a good tool, but you have to manually place some mods where they are supposed to be by following the mod author's recommendation. Google what is the correct load order for Skyrim and place your mods accordingly.

[leonardo2]

I see a lot of patches in your load order and they have been placed in the middle of it; if I am not mistaken, patches must be placed at the bottom of your load order

Sometimes it isn't necessary to move a patch to the bottom for two reasons.

 

1. It depends what master the patch has and if it has let say Mod A and Mod B will cause a minor conflict with Mod A then a patch for Mod B and in this example Mod C, the patch, needs to be like this.

 

Mod A

Mod B

Mod C

 

2. Another thing that's important to know about is where in a loadorder a mod is loaded also decide where a mod patch needs to be, which could be almost anywhere in a loadorder.

 

 

To sum it up; Always read the readme for a mod, especially the Known Issues section, and reading the readme can save you some time.

Edited March 5, 2018 by leonardo2

[blitzen]

Immersive Patrols and Immersive Creatures are problematic? I was using them both in Oldrim for a long time without problems. Is this something that started happening with SSE? I have them both installed right now. My game just started crashing with some regularity, but that's after a week with over 200 active plugins. I'd hate to lose Immersive Patrols. Skyrim seems empty without it. I was thinking about putting Warzones in.