Invisible Lightning Runes

[Deleted21550714User]

Nexus user Asaforg, and I, has solved the Invisible Lightning/Shock Runes bug that some users have experienced. This bug is caused when a mod author places the wrong, special effects,projectile into to their mod with intent to apply a Lightning Rune Trap on ground cover. In the CK you will find two options within the object window under; special effect,projectile with the word lightning in the object windows filter. RuneLightningProjectile and TrapRuneLightningProjectile When these 2 projectiles are placed into the CK there is no telling the 2 projectiles apart, they look the same in the Ck and will act the same in created mods locations placement.The mod author clearly is not placing down the wrong one with intent.Had there been info on this prior for mod Authors, i would not be typing this now. What is conclusive is that the proper projectile to use,when placing rune traps on the floor is the "RuneLightning Trap", this is what Bethesda uses to place those rune traps. Any users that are suffering from Invisible Lightning Runes bug has a mod that has applied the -TrapRune Lightning Projectile - has a lightning rune to ground cover in that mod.

Edit:The other rune "traprunelightningprojectile" that was culprit in mods is now revealed to be what is supposed to be used on doors,gates,columns ect,ect. This is what Bethesda uses it for. I will stress again, when both trapruneslightningproject and runelightningprojectile are placed in a cell whilst in the ck the both look like the are the right one to go to the floor. As in they both come into screen on a horizontal plane.

FOR USERS SUFFERING: There is no easy way to know what mod is the culprit. Because we know that it is a mod that has placed a Lightning Runes incorrectly you can at least eliminate a large slew of mods in your load order. Until a reliable means for users,that are not CK users,is enacted you are going to have to apply the trial by elimination method.Your culprit mod is most likely a dungeon, cave,or expansive mod with new land.

After consideration, it is my opinion that trial by elimination is the best course of action to determine culprit mod for all users. I suggest starting a new game without mods that fall under the categories of Dungeons,Caves, and Expansive new lands.Make a clean save before you arrive to where you were experiencing the invisible lightning runes. After saving, go and make sure culprit mod is still not in load order. Then add 1-2 of the mods that had been left out and repeat steps until found. For users that want to play in the CK, you would have to load 1 mod at a time into CK and activate in cell window cells that particular mod had added then look in item window,within cell window, for traprunelightningprojectile which inside item window is classified as a projectile.

Edited February 13, 2019 by Guest

[chubjub]

This has plagued me for years thanks for identifying it, I ended up using a light weight essential mod to counter act this effect as i get fire and ice effects as well in. Normally the ones in Dragorns Reach , Helgen , Bleakfalls Burrow area will kill my player character the others i only get the FX affect and noise, also noticed that Npc's will activate these but will loose no health.

[AndreBRbahia]

can someone please make a video showing how to solve this problem?

[GOREckpuIIa4]

Okay, I found a way how to narrow the list of mods that caused problem, finally.

You need to:

1. Know what element kills or damages you with invisible rune.

2. Know the name of the problem i.e. "traprunelightningprojectile" (change element to what caused problems)

3. Open xEdit and through editor id when you load all your plugins check the name

4. Check which mods this is referenced in

5. One by one eliminate mods that are referenced and load the problematic zone where you were exploding.

6. When the rune is no more triggering - you found the mod that was causing problems.

7. Open this mod in CK

8. Find the rune type again and check info, look in which modded location it is present.

9. Open it in Cell editor and delete - or if you know much more then me, change to the right type, and you good to go.

Edited April 22, 2023 by GOREckpuIIa4

[Kulharin]

Should these placed projectiles be changed then? or deleted?

 

Forwarding the placed projectiles into a patch and flagging them as deleted fixed the random invisible rune traps from spawning in completely unrelated cells.

 

Is it an issue with the frost and fire as well?