Fallout 4, Trump, and game violence

[Moksha8088]

A few weeks back Trump presented a video on video game violence as part of his response to mass shootings with assault rifles. On this video, there was a clip of Fallout 4,

 

My question is this: Why show video violence committed with assault rifles when you are trying to deflect blame from real life assault rifles. Wouldn't it have made more sense showing Skyrim's Dragonborn hurling fireballs at unsuspecting bandits? It would be more dramatic and would better shift the emphasis away from guns.

 

Even the NRA could get behind regulating the use fireballs, and possibly explosive runes. Just hope the Supreme Court does not choose to grant citizenship to Atronachs or extremely wealthy Sloads.

[gamefever]

Oh great OP,

 

Lets have a discussion about rights on a server that is located in a country where freedom of speech is under attack.

Wonderful idea, just wonderful.

 

I got news for you buddy, here in America its my Constitutional Right and that's the end of it.

 

Also the AR in AR15 stands for Arma Lite, not assault rifle.

 

EDIT

Arma-Lite Rifle 15.

Edited March 18, 2018 by gamefever

[gamefever]

Furthermore,

 

Far more people die from hands in our nation than from guns.

 

By population proportions your chances of dieing from a fire arm of any kind are far lower in the US than anywhere else in the world, period.

[Kodiak412]

 

By population proportions your chances of dieing from a fire arm of any kind are far lower in the US than anywhere else in the world, period.

 

Spoken like a true Fox News believer. :)

[metaphorset]

By population proportions your chances of dieing from a fire arm of any kind are far lower in the US than anywhere else in the world, period.

This one made me lol quite hard. Thanks for the good joke.

[Evangela]

I can say that gamefever is wrong when it comes to where I come from(deep south, US). People get shot, are killed from gun fire almost every day where I lived.

 

As for Trump... He's a narcissist - it is within his personality to place blame anywhere and everywhere at anyone and anything, other than himself and those truly responsible(because blaming them could hurt his interests). They are masters of deflection.

 

We've all been down this road before with game related violence anyway.

Edited March 18, 2018 by Rasikko

[gamefever]

I can say that gamefever is wrong when it comes to where I come from(deep south, US). People get shot, are killed from gun fire almost every day where I lived.

 

As for Trump... He's a narcissist - it is within his personality to place blame anywhere and everywhere at anyone and anything, other than himself and those truly responsible(because blaming them could hurt his interests). They are masters of deflection.

 

We've all been down this road before with game related violence anyway.

 

So is Hillary or have you forgotten that she was essentially the first large political figure to make the claim that video games correspond to violent sex acts, via vie Grand Theft Auto 5.

The media specifically showed how the player could pick up hookers in a vehicle and then throw her out the door and run her over.

Edited March 18, 2018 by gamefever

[Moksha8088]

Gamefever, what is your position as to the culpability of destruction magic? Is the incident of deaths from destruction magic also lower in the U.S.?

[HeyYou]

I can say that gamefever is wrong when it comes to where I come from(deep south, US). People get shot, are killed from gun fire almost every day where I lived.

 

As for Trump... He's a narcissist - it is within his personality to place blame anywhere and everywhere at anyone and anything, other than himself and those truly responsible(because blaming them could hurt his interests). They are masters of deflection.

 

We've all been down this road before with game related violence anyway.

So whom do you think is really to blame? Is it someone in washington? Or is it the person that goes to a gun free zone, and starts shooting people? Or is it the guns fault?

 

What some folks just can't seem to figure out, is that you are indeed less likely to be killed by a gun in the US, than you are in many other places. If you dropped Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles, and New Orleans from the statistics, (all havens of gang violence), you would change the 'odds' significantly, and the US would seem a FAR safer place.

 

I would also point out, that a significant percentage of mass shootings happen in California, a state with some of the toughest gun laws in the nation.

[gamefever]

 

I can say that gamefever is wrong when it comes to where I come from(deep south, US). People get shot, are killed from gun fire almost every day where I lived.

 

As for Trump... He's a narcissist - it is within his personality to place blame anywhere and everywhere at anyone and anything, other than himself and those truly responsible(because blaming them could hurt his interests). They are masters of deflection.

 

We've all been down this road before with game related violence anyway.

So whom do you think is really to blame? Is it someone in washington? Or is it the person that goes to a gun free zone, and starts shooting people? Or is it the guns fault?

 

What some folks just can't seem to figure out, is that you are indeed less likely to be killed by a gun in the US, than you are in many other places. If you dropped Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles, and New Orleans from the statistics, (all havens of gang violence), you would change the 'odds' significantly, and the US would seem a FAR safer place.

 

I would also point out, that a significant percentage of mass shootings happen in California, a state with some of the toughest gun laws in the nation.

 

Your not going to win my heart and mind by citing Socialist cities and states that indeed should leave the Union.

Those particular places have out of control crime, over the top welfare, insanely high taxation, and not to mention that places like California are not only due to claim bankruptcy but have no possible means to provide a serious essential service for its current population over the course of the next 20 years that being water.

 

Its a serious concern if the states of Illinois and California will ever be able to pay back their debt because they simply cannot bring in enough tax dollars to put a dent into their own deficit, and meanwhile they are still spending beyond their means. They are a lot like Greece...Also people are basically leaving those States, they have more leaving than coming in to pay the taxes.

 

Detroit, literally a third world country.

 

The city of Chicago has been running about a 50 Billion Dollar deficit for the last 3 years, it has a revenue of 3.5 Billion, it cannot afford its services.

 

Should I care about Blue states and cities that don't have their act together and cannot understand how corrupt they are?

 

The main running issue is that somehow taking guns out of the hands of the law abiding citizen is going to then magically make guns go away from the hands of the criminals.

For those outside of the US, understand that we here in the US have a constitutional right to freedom of speech, bear arms, and freedom of religion these are just the top three.

2nd is more fully understood under the full context of the Constitution, it is intended that the people have the power to fight tyranny in the form of corrupt government, this can also be more fully understood by examining the Federalist Papers, documents which the forefathers themselves prepared to more fully flesh out the meaning of the Constitution.

Taking away guns would be the fastest way to start American Revolution 2.

 

You have to understand that the last time there was a gun census was in around 2010, the number of reported known guns was around 300 Million....The suspected amount of guns is placed at enough weapons to arm every man, woman, and child in the nation.

My next door neighbor could equip around 30 people, a lot of the families in my neighborhood have at least 7 firearms in their household.

 

For some reason there is a group of crazies that control the media that think that they can just stage a bunch of protests and that Red States will just see and believe.

News for you we don't believe jack about it. We actually have armed militia's and the news loves going after them too.

 

Here's another thing for you, Florida just passed right to carry for teachers....Like that was going to end up any different. All the news broadcasts tried to paint a picture that we don't want guns, that guns are bad, and that our own neighbors with their gun closets feel this way too....Well I guess the media's full of lairs with an agenda.

They actually took a poll from Florida school teachers before passing it, guess what the teachers were fine with the right to carry a firearm. What did the news say? They said teachers didn't want to carry firearms and then they put together a whole line up of teachers and Union members to say as much. I guess the news is full it.

 

The left (Democrats) want you to believe that big government is good. The problem is that our Founding Fathers never wanted big government.

They also want to take our guns away. They also want us to believe that police are incompetent and unable to do their jobs when it suits their agenda but on guns no we are supposed to trust the police...That's a conflict of idea's in their own rhetoric.

 

Meanwhile something you don't know about.

Florida...Here we have it in law that the SCO on scene is supposed to set up in the building that the event is happening in. The Parkland officer set up at the wrong building out in front of the school. They had 3 more officers show up, a SWAT team, and Paramedics...They still didn't go in. The police had to force fire rescue from entering the building, which BTW Kodo's to those brave firemen for doing their job!

All of those guys will lose their jobs, the Sheriff himself will likely also lose his job, and most of his Officers will be under review.

At the moment Florida has a full investigation ongoing but I expect heads are going to roll so to speak for failure to respond.

Of course that's ignoring the other obvious stuff with Parkland High, such as the fact that the shooter should on several occasions been put into police custody before the event ever took place so that's going to put some FBI agents also on the chopping block.

 

The fact is that Parkland High is a perfect example of how government fails and it shouldn't be looked at any other way.

 

edit

Now of course I'm no expert on all of those topics, but I do have some credentials beyond making mods for video games and I don't have a lot of trouble finding information on the web. Thing is I don't see how its my responsibility to have to educate or inform...I do get that for some that's a cop out and that if I knew something I should share it especially when there are a lot of heavy issues all tied together.

Edited March 19, 2018 by gamefever