game crashes when attempting to load a save but can start a new game perfectly fine

[SirManitee]

Specs:

i5-6600k cpu @ 3.5GHz

16gb ram

gtx 1060 - 6144mb vram

314gb free space

 

Location of game: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim

 

using:

Nexus Mod Manager - installing mods etc.

Legendary Edition - all dlc

SKSE

LOOT

TES5edit

ENB

 

Load Order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

7 7 JSwords.esm

8 8 RE_RealEstate_Core.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

9 9 AMatterOfTime.esp

10 a SkyUI.esp

11 b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

12 c CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

13 d Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

14 e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

15 f OBIS.esp

16 10 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

17 11 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

18 12 RE_RealEstate.esp

19 13 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

20 14 SMIM-Merged-All.esp

21 15 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

22 16 Immersive Weapons.esp

23 17 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

24 18 WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp

25 19 WSCO - OcciMaleVNL.esp

26 1a SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp

27 1b Run For Your Lives.esp

28 1c UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

29 1d UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

30 1e UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

31 1f SCOOverhaul.esp

32 20 WSCO - Better NPCs.esp

33 21 True Master Trainers (Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch).esp

34 22 Immersive Patrols II.esp

35 23 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

36 24 CaranthirTowerReborn.esp

37 25 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

38 26 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

39 27 Blue Fire Magic - Fire.esp

Blue Fire Magic - Frost.esp

40 28 BetterArchmagesRobes.esp

41 29 BetterStaffofMagnus.esp

42 2a Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

43 2b Dr_Bandolier.esp

44 2c VioLens.esp

45 2d UnreadBooksGlow.esp

46 2e Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

47 2f Unique Uniques.esp

48 30 SuperSleeves.esp

49 31 Unlimited Training.esp

50 32 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

51 33 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

52 34 OBISDB.esp

53 35 MorePP.esp

54 36 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp

55 37 potionupgrades.esp

56 38 Headtracking.esp

57 39 Order My Items.esp

58 3a DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

59 3b Brawl Bugs CE.esp

60 3c DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

61 3d DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

62 3e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

63 3f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

64 40 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp

65 41 SCODragonborn.esp

66 42 imp_helm_legend.esp

67 43 HearthfireMultiKid.esp

68 44 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

69 45 HelmetToggle.esp

70 46 ImmersiveSpells.esp

71 47 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

72 48 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

73 49 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

74 4a RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

75 4b Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp

76 4c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

77 4d RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp

78 4e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Hi there!

I'll keep this simple

My game keeps crashing when I load up any save but it will still start a new game without problems. I've tried reinstalling the game, clean installing Skyrim and reinstalling its mods later and restarting my pc. I've even tried starting a new game, THEN loading the save, which would result in a crash. I use LOOT to sort my load order and I've also cleaned the master files with TES5edit, but I haven't cleaned any mods with it. I've attached the last page of papyrus.0

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Edited April 2, 2018 by SirManitee

[Budderlettuce]

Wrye Bash!

 

That's the one Skyrim modding utility that you do not yet have, and has been an invaluable tool for me in my Skyrim modding escapades and ESPECIALLY my playthroughs for Oblivion (Oblivion is inherently more finicky and needs plenty of coddling and attention to detail). So, create a bashed patch for your Skyrim, as this should be mandatory for any modded game, whether or not you end up recovering your lost save.

 

I am by no means an expert at mod troubleshooting and there are better minds on these forums to help you with your problems. However, I've never been unable to remedy a (formerly) CTD save, despite ambitiously modding every single playthrough of Skyrim to the absolute gills (350+ mods crammed and merged into the 255 .esp limit... on a barely mid-tier PC muahaha!). So my wisdom on this subject comes from experience, and yours will come with time as well.

 

I'm going to assume you become a little trigger happy and dl'd and installed multiple mods at once, without testing each mod individually to see if it botched your current load out. Don't be ashamed, it happens to the best of us. But for the love of Talos, next time you do so make sure you *regularly* back up your game files. Every time I tweak a modded version of Skyrim to my liking, I make a back up, no excuses. Skyrim isn't invincible and your modding choices aren't either. Any who, just saying that saved back files would come in REAL handy right about now. Remember this.

 

-

 

Your inability to load a previous save comes down to load order. It's reasonable to suspect that either something is missing or is in the wrong place. You may have removed an .esp or .esm that your CTD save was dependent on, whether intentional or not. If your load order isn't properly "ordered" to the likeness of that last CTD save, then C'sTD are to be expected. It's possible that you were oblivious to load order, and the game saves that now CTD were thwarted by you using LOOT which sorted your order likely for the better but not necessarily for your (barely) functioning previous play through. Does that make sense? I hope so. It's late. Either way, look into load order as this might very well be the cause of your modded game's ills.

 

BONUS tidbit of advice: Install Wrye Bash. Do what I said earlier about making a bashed patch. Now, locate the header "Saves" in Wrye Bash's top left corner. Locate the save that you want to load but continues to CTD, and right click it. Select either "List Masters" or "Diff Masters". Either of these options will help you bring up any missing dependencies that your CTD file needs. On a side note, when using LOOT, pay attention to the details of the warnings that it presents for any given .esp fiie upon generating a new load order. Take them seriously and file its instructions.

 

 

All the best to you sir, and good luck.

[SirManitee]

Thanks for replying!

 

The problem is, I can't load any save even if I am using an identical load order. This means that if I save the game, quit the game, then immediately (without making any changes to the load order or installing new mods etc.) boot the game up again, I can't load the same save. However, I can start a new game with no problems or crashes, its only if i try and load any save, that it CTD.

 

I'm not sure if the problem is in my load order or something else but I'll give wyre bash a try.

[JimmyRJump]

When exiting the game, do it in two steps: first to the main menu and from the main menu to desktop instead of straight to desktop. Then load the last save and see what gives.

[SirManitee]

When exiting the game, do it in two steps: first to the main menu and from the main menu to desktop instead of straight to desktop. Then load the last save and see what gives.

I don't think exiting the game from the menu helped in my case but thanks for trying

 

 

Wrye Bash!

 

That's the one Skyrim modding utility that you do not yet have, and has been an invaluable tool for me in my Skyrim modding escapades and ESPECIALLY my playthroughs for Oblivion (Oblivion is inherently more finicky and needs plenty of coddling and attention to detail). So, create a bashed patch for your Skyrim, as this should be mandatory for any modded game, whether or not you end up recovering your lost save.

 

I am by no means an expert at mod troubleshooting and there are better minds on these forums to help you with your problems. However, I've never been unable to remedy a (formerly) CTD save, despite ambitiously modding every single playthrough of Skyrim to the absolute gills (350+ mods crammed and merged into the 255 .esp limit... on a barely mid-tier PC muahaha!). So my wisdom on this subject comes from experience, and yours will come with time as well.

 

I'm going to assume you become a little trigger happy and dl'd and installed multiple mods at once, without testing each mod individually to see if it botched your current load out. Don't be ashamed, it happens to the best of us. But for the love of Talos, next time you do so make sure you *regularly* back up your game files. Every time I tweak a modded version of Skyrim to my liking, I make a back up, no excuses. Skyrim isn't invincible and your modding choices aren't either. Any who, just saying that saved back files would come in REAL handy right about now. Remember this.

 

-

 

Your inability to load a previous save comes down to load order. It's reasonable to suspect that either something is missing or is in the wrong place. You may have removed an .esp or .esm that your CTD save was dependent on, whether intentional or not. If your load order isn't properly "ordered" to the likeness of that last CTD save, then C'sTD are to be expected. It's possible that you were oblivious to load order, and the game saves that now CTD were thwarted by you using LOOT which sorted your order likely for the better but not necessarily for your (barely) functioning previous play through. Does that make sense? I hope so. It's late. Either way, look into load order as this might very well be the cause of your modded game's ills.

 

BONUS tidbit of advice: Install Wrye Bash. Do what I said earlier about making a bashed patch. Now, locate the header "Saves" in Wrye Bash's top left corner. Locate the save that you want to load but continues to CTD, and right click it. Select either "List Masters" or "Diff Masters". Either of these options will help you bring up any missing dependencies that your CTD file needs. On a side note, when using LOOT, pay attention to the details of the warnings that it presents for any given .esp fiie upon generating a new load order. Take them seriously and file its instructions.

 

 

All the best to you sir, and good luck.

 

You're right, Wyre Bash fixed everything and the save loads perfectly fine! Thanks for suggesting it Budder, i'll be sure to use it from now on!

Appreciate ya

[Darklustre]

 

When exiting the game, do it in two steps: first to the main menu and from the main menu to desktop instead of straight to desktop. Then load the last save and see what gives.

I don't think exiting the game from the menu helped in my case but thanks for trying

 

 

Wrye Bash!

 

That's the one Skyrim modding utility that you do not yet have, and has been an invaluable tool for me in my Skyrim modding escapades and ESPECIALLY my playthroughs for Oblivion (Oblivion is inherently more finicky and needs plenty of coddling and attention to detail). So, create a bashed patch for your Skyrim, as this should be mandatory for any modded game, whether or not you end up recovering your lost save.

 

I am by no means an expert at mod troubleshooting and there are better minds on these forums to help you with your problems. However, I've never been unable to remedy a (formerly) CTD save, despite ambitiously modding every single playthrough of Skyrim to the absolute gills (350+ mods crammed and merged into the 255 .esp limit... on a barely mid-tier PC muahaha!). So my wisdom on this subject comes from experience, and yours will come with time as well.

 

I'm going to assume you become a little trigger happy and dl'd and installed multiple mods at once, without testing each mod individually to see if it botched your current load out. Don't be ashamed, it happens to the best of us. But for the love of Talos, next time you do so make sure you *regularly* back up your game files. Every time I tweak a modded version of Skyrim to my liking, I make a back up, no excuses. Skyrim isn't invincible and your modding choices aren't either. Any who, just saying that saved back files would come in REAL handy right about now. Remember this.

 

-

 

Your inability to load a previous save comes down to load order. It's reasonable to suspect that either something is missing or is in the wrong place. You may have removed an .esp or .esm that your CTD save was dependent on, whether intentional or not. If your load order isn't properly "ordered" to the likeness of that last CTD save, then C'sTD are to be expected. It's possible that you were oblivious to load order, and the game saves that now CTD were thwarted by you using LOOT which sorted your order likely for the better but not necessarily for your (barely) functioning previous play through. Does that make sense? I hope so. It's late. Either way, look into load order as this might very well be the cause of your modded game's ills.

 

BONUS tidbit of advice: Install Wrye Bash. Do what I said earlier about making a bashed patch. Now, locate the header "Saves" in Wrye Bash's top left corner. Locate the save that you want to load but continues to CTD, and right click it. Select either "List Masters" or "Diff Masters". Either of these options will help you bring up any missing dependencies that your CTD file needs. On a side note, when using LOOT, pay attention to the details of the warnings that it presents for any given .esp fiie upon generating a new load order. Take them seriously and file its instructions.

 

 

All the best to you sir, and good luck.

 

You're right, Wyre Bash fixed everything and the save loads perfectly fine! Thanks for suggesting it Budder, i'll be sure to use it from now on!

Appreciate ya

 

I could never figure out how to get Bash to work. I get lost in the description. Did you watch any videos that might help?

[Rodr1sen]

I have deleted my comment, if it is a post that I created feel free to delete it from nexus, thank you

Edited December 23, 2023 by rodr1ss