Helpless with house stronghold bugs

[elosznik]

Hello, I have a problem with my Morrowind. I'm in use of plugin which allows me to be a member of all three houses. I'm in Redoran, Telvanni and Hlaalu now, but I'm afraid I'm slowly losing control of bugs.

 

After installing the plugin I started playing with Redoran House quests until I became a Hortrator and had my Stronghold finished on stage 2. Then I moved to Telvanni and despite I had all possible quests done, a Hortrator Title and an Archmagister rank, Telvanni Stronghold stuck permanently on stage 1, even the orc builder was not present, despite I had everything necessary done (steam centurions designs, and a journal update about starting the final stage of stronghold), physically - no change, just like it was on stage 1, editing journal entries also couldn't change a thing. I have managed this bug somehow, I found and used "startscript strong_build3_T" command, slept over few days and the journal automatically updated that the last stage was done - everything ended up well, I have my Telvanni Stronghold finished.

 

After this I did only the necessary quests to be a Hortrator of Hlaalu (just convincing guys), without starting a stronghold.

 

Then I decided to come back to Redoran. After all quests possible, I gathered acceptance of all councilors to promote me to House Father, but Sarethi kept on talking I needed more councilors to accept me. I used "pcraiserank redoran 7.00", skipped over this bugged advancement and got next promotions without any problems and became an Archmagister. I was finally able to continue Redoran Stronghold construction to stage 3. I bought slavewomen and got the journal update that stronghold would soon be complete. I slept over two weeks, still no slaves i bought, no final journal update, nothing happened. So i used an analogical command "startscript Strong_Build3_R" for Redoran, which had solved the same problem with Telvanni.

 

But I was surprised today with a big nothing. I've searched for resolve, tried all the commands from all over the web, like SetStronghold, SetStage fbmwHRStronghold, tried detaching plugins, erasing my other house membership, but nothing works, journal editing only changes what NPC's talk, physically I'm just stuck on Redoran Sronghold on level 2, no matter what I do. I was always careful with console and I've avoided all quest conflicts on a master level. Everyone who's supposed to live to keep the plot forward is alive and I've made all the quests without any problems so far.

 

I don't know what to do to have my stronghold finished, and I don't know if any of my actions could cause such a bug. Please, if anybody knows what this problem really is and how to deal with it, I'll be grateful. After all the progress I've made with so little time I can spare for gaming and after gathering all the unique stuff, I'd rather choose suicide over starting the game all over again. Please help,

 

Best regards.

Edited May 1, 2018 by elosznik

[Dragon32]

Are you using "Join All Houses" by Heph / Fukuro?

 

That says:

"3. Talk to Vedam Dren in Ebonheart about construction contracts if any of the below is true:

You already have a stronghold with any guild.

You gave your builder a construction contract for your second stronghold before using this mod and it never was completed."

[elosznik]

I'm using All Great Houses v1-10994 mod, with no credits or readme file. I kinda don't remember where I got it from. I started first stronghold far after enabling this mod, the mod is on since the very beginning. And I had to visit Vedam Dren every time I wanted to place a stronghold. He can still give me as many copies as I want to, but constructors say I've already given them one, which is true. So this resolve doesn't fit to this issue.

 

BUT!

 

I've just realized, that during my final quests in Telvanni there were such orders as "Kill someone in Ramoran Manor" and in Indoryl Minor. During these quests these manors, which are also other house's strongholds at once, were already complete for the needs of the quests. I didn't notice they have been complete all the time since then. How did I find out? I accidentaly saw in the web that Hlaalu Stronghold is named Ramoran Manor, and I remembered this name, because I'd visited it a few quests earlier. I loaded old savegame before any stronghold was built, just to check, and there was no Ramoran Manor present, just rocks instead, so it must have been completed in the script of the quest, because I hadn't even started stronghold topic in Hlaalu House. Redoran Stronghold is most probably also complete. I've dug out some pictures from the web how does it look when it's finished and I don't see any difference. I was mislead because the slaves had never arrived, but I guess I will not fix this bug any more. But I'll live with it, two women less in a stronghold is not such a big pain.

 

It turns out Morrowind is more clever than I was. Strongholds were set automatically due to my final Telvanni quests and I didn't add it up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the problem had already been resolved before I even thought there was one. :happy:

Edited May 3, 2018 by elosznik

[Dragon32]

From the name that's this Nexus mod - https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/10994

 

I haven't used that mod, or Join All Houses. But, AFAIK, what you describe is vanilla behaviour: when you've built the first level of your Stronghold in one House you can go on missions to kill the owners of the other two Strongholds. Which means they need to be built

 

From the comments Join All Houses seems a safer bet.

[leonardo2]

Are you using Heph's Join All Houses?

[elosznik]

My file is titled "All Great Houses v1-10994", with no credits though. It's safe, I'm enjoying it, however if you want to complete all three houses, it requires lots of command control. Resurrecting, manual script starts, constant re-joining (some Hlaalu questgivers won't talk to you if you're eg. Redoran) and it all has to be made carefully to prevent quests from conflicting each other.