patd1287 Posted February 25, 2004 Author Share Posted February 25, 2004 that is most defintely NOT an encouraging thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narynzine Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Erm, i'm not American but we have the same prob with Blair as you do with Bush. methinks they're in league with each other. I dunno if this is classed as 'thread hi-jacking' but it's the same topic really just a diff country so i didn't see the point in starting a new thread about generally the same thing. Hopefully our general elections are coming up soon(must be due another PM kicking by now).After Blair's example, i WON'T be voting Labour anytime within the next few decades. Tory seem to be on Labour's side and wavelength, so they're out IMO so who else does that leave?Guess i'll be voting Liberal Democrat. Unless my fave party, The Raving Loony Party come back on the election list(if you ignore the name and some of their more hair-brained ideas they're actually a really good party imo). Any other Brits here that can't stand our butt-kissing, warmongering, spineless worm of a Prime Minister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Well, I just don't know what I'll do. Maybe I'll start my own party. Free alcohol for all, school to be abolished and no computer games of any kind to be allowed. The swarm of uneducated youth would be required to pick up litter, and take over mundane jobs like neurosurgeon, bomb disposal and international peace negotiator. Anyone over twenty would just party! Well its as likely to happen as anything the Labour or Tory parties will put in their manifestos if past experience is anything to go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmid Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Erm, i'm not American but we have the same prob with Blair as you do with Bush. methinks they're in league with each other. Ya think?????? Hopefully our general elections are coming up soon(must be due another PM kicking by now).After Blair's example, i WON'T be voting Labour anytime within the next few decades. Tory seem to be on Labour's side and wavelength, so they're out IMO so who else does that leave?Guess i'll be voting Liberal Democrat. I, for one, will be voting Tory next election, not because I think they will be a good government (I most certainly don't), but because they are about the only party that has a realistic chance of getting into government except for Labour. The very fact that I consider this to be the least worst option rather than a good choice shows the ridiculous state of politics in this country. From what I have seen, the same is true in America. Any other Brits here that can't stand our butt-kissing, warmongering, spineless worm of a Prime Minister? Quite a few, from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albareth Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Problem is, imo - with the way the system is over there. In both America and Britain you have two huge parties that monopolyze the votes, so no other party has a realistical chance. The best way imo is to have several parties on various positions on the "scale of left/right" - we got three big parties here and two semi-big, the parties can form a strong goverment anyway they want within those so long as they have majority together - it really works out quite well, that way you know if you're voting for your party (a left green party in my case, one of the semi-big), you know you're supporting the downfall of the right-wing goverment anyway, even if it's not the big center-aligned party with lots of voters that you're picking - because they'd form a goverment together with left-greens anyway. Hope that made sense. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThetaOrionis01 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I am totally sickened by Blair and his cronies. Anytime I see his plasticky, insincere grin I fully expect his head to split apart and reveal some alien within.... :lol:I absolutely detest the way politics has become focussed on appearance and spin - issues don't seem to matter these days. I have no time for the Tories either - infact, it's getting kind of hard to distinguish between between the two, now that the Tories have stopped always picking the bald guy as their leader.... It's not like their policies differ much, is it? I shall vote Liberal Democrat or Green - IMO the only parties with a shred of integrity left. But since our electoral system is a farce anyway, why not just take it to its logical conclusion and have a "Survivor Special" to elect he next UK Prime Minister or US President? Drop all the candidates in the jungle, and let them fight it out. We, the voters, make our opinion known in the usual style, by kicking them out one by one. And of course, selling the TV rights for this major spectacle could towards alleviating the budget deficit :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narynzine Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 lol, yea. Tho i doubt any of those spineless worms would 'survive' anyway. Not that that's a problem :D I'm slowly starting to agree with a friend of mine, he's pro-socialism and anti-capitalism. I've always disagreed with him(Russia was/is socialist isn't it?) but it can't be much worse than we have now, lol. Tho i doubt we have any socialist parties anyway(our local MP/mayor is socialist and i have to say, they're doing a brilliant job of the town! more things have been done in the past year than there has been in ten years of the old labour ones!). Maybe we need to kick the entire political parties out and start anew :D :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldowan Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 OT: about the bush blair team... Bush Blair Video I am sure most of you have seen this around, but I think it is still good for a great laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argoren Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 To answer the topic - OUR president will hopefully be Gesine Schwan. Don't know her? Nor do we, but she seems to be quite nice and has a nice name - and she's a women! ^_^ Concerning YOUR president, I hope it will be Kerry. In fact from this side of the ocean ANY other than Bushi Boy is considered to be the better choice. Could it get worse?! I don't know a lot about Kerry, but at least I didn't hear anything really bad about him, and his chances seem to be better than those of the other candidates (excluded Bush, unfortunately). TAKE HIM! PLEEEAASE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanateros Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 And Ralph Nader....yeah...if any of you have ever heard him speak you know what I'm talking about. So, for president/vice president in 2004 I pick: John Kerry and Wes ClarkAgreed. About Nader, yea, he came to my school and I saw him speak. It was supposed to be a forum on globalization in the post 9-11 world but instead he ranted on and on about how the media is nothing more than a front for political interests...well duh, has anyone watched the CNN lately or CNBC? The whole American media system is flooded with propaganda. If you want to know what's really going on in the world, learn french; they're the most reliable new sources for the western world (and they have a long standing history in the middle east). Ok back to Nader, he has no speaking skills whatsoever, I never for once clapped for him while all the yuppy hippies in the audience were plotzing themselves over how 'liberal' a politician he is. He's the reason why Bush is our president and I'll be damned if a man so uncharasmatic and unattuned to how our political system works would ever take residence in the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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