Crashing Bad

[Tilarium]

Got a few hundred mods DLed and installed. Managed to get LOOT working to order everything for me. Can barely play the game because of crashing. This is a rough version of the modding format I've used in the past, Horizon as the main with other things thrown in. I've always had crashing while playing a modded version of the game but never this bad. I also have start it up going and started in Concord, killed the raiders, helped Preston out and get the crew back up to Sanctuary. Everything was fine up to there. In the 50 minutes sense then I've crashed constantly going to Ten Pines to get the kill mission at Corvega and then heading back to Sanctuary (without doing the mission). I get a couple of minutes in the game, up to 5 minutes at the most between crashes. Anyone got any tricks or tips I can do to try and lesson the crashes? I've included my load order below.

 

 

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgsfo4001-pipboy(black).esl
254 FE 1 ccbgsfo4006-pipboy(chrome).esl
254 FE 2 ccbgsfo4005-bluecamo.esl
254 FE 3 ccbgsfo4020-powerarmorskin(black).esl
254 FE 4 ccbgsfo4025-powerarmorskin(chrome).esl
254 FE 5 ccbgsfo4024-pacamo03.esl
254 FE 6 ccbgsfo4038-horsearmor.esl
254 FE 7 ccfsvfo4001-modularmilitarybackpack.esl
254 FE 8 ccfrsfo4001-handmadeshotgun.esl
254 FE 9 ccbgsfo4045-advarccab.esl
254 FE a ccgcafo4003-factionws03bos.esl
254 FE b ccgcafo4004-factionws04gun.esl
254 FE c ccgcafo4005-factionws05hrpink.esl
254 FE d ccgcafo4007-factionws07hrflames.esl
254 FE e ccgcafo4010-factionws10rr.esl
254 FE f ccgcafo4011-factionws11vt.esl
254 FE 10 ccgcafo4012-factionas01acat.esl
254 FE 11 ccgcafo4013-factionas02bos.esl
254 FE 12 ccgcafo4014-factionas03gun.esl
254 FE 13 ccgcafo4015-factionas04hrpink.esl
254 FE 14 ccgcafo4022-factionas11vt.esl
254 FE 15 ccswkfo4002-pipnuka.esl
254 FE 16 ccbgsfo4056-dglabb.esl
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a SimSettlements.esm
11 b Homemaker.esm
12 c ArmorKeywords.esm
13 d TrueStormsFO4.esm
14 e SettlementKeywords.esm
15 f Z_Architect.esm
NQAS - Automatron.esl
254 FE 17 NQAS - BoS Fire Support.esl
254 FE 18 NQAS - VaultTec.esl
16 10 GKX Commonwealth Cleanup DLC Version.esp
17 11 Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn.esp
18 12 Z_Horizon.esp
19 13 Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn_DLC.esp
20 14 Z_Horizon_DLC_All.esp
21 15 Armorsmith Extended.esp
22 16 Ammo.esp
23 17 Classic Combat Armor.esp
24 18 Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp
25 19 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
26 1a AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp
27 1b EferasShoulderBag.esp
28 1c GlowstickRedux_survival_200.esp
29 1d Pack Attack NPC.esp
30 1e NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp
31 1f BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
32 20 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
33 21 g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp
34 22 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
35 23 CBBE.esp
36 24 Snappable Covenant Walls.esp
37 25 BalconySupports.esp
38 26 Eli_Crafting Shiz 9000.esp
39 27 dinomore.esp
40 28 dinoshelf.esp
41 29 ExpandedSettlementBuildings.esp
42 2a EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp
43 2b Northland Diggers New.esp
44 2c OCDecorator.esp
45 2d OCDispenser.esp
46 2e OCDecorator - No Experience.esp
47 2f OCDecoratorDLC.esp
48 30 Thematic and Practical.esp
49 31 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp
50 32 SettlementMenuManager.esp
51 33 CommonwealthCaps_Full.esp
52 34 ImmersiveVendors.esp
53 35 Publick Occurrences Expanded.esp
54 36 One Minutemen Radiant Quest At A Time.esp
55 37 EnterTheBrotherhood.esp
56 38 True Nights v03.esp
57 39 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
58 3a TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
59 3b TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
60 3c TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
61 3d TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
62 3e TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
63 3f GunnerFaceVariety.esp
64 40 RaiderFaceVariety_2.0.esp
65 41 TrapperFaceVariety.esp
66 42 LetsMoveLikeRealPeopleHuh.esp
67 43 DoctorSunStaysAtShop.esp
68 44 EssentialNamedSettlers.esp
69 45 MechanistSettler.esp
70 46 SettlerRenaming.esp
71 47 Suicider Replacement.esp
72 48 DESTROY_ALL_Cricket_v2_1.00.esp
73 49 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
74 4a IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
75 4b SimSettlementsRecr_Leaders.esp
76 4c FP_SimSettlements-Leaderpack.esp
77 4d Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
78 4e Northland Diggers.esp
79 4f FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
80 50 FunctionalDisplays.esp
81 51 LongRangeBulletHoles.esp
82 52 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
83 53 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
84 54 CROSS_ReducedLaserSmoke.esp
85 55 AllSetsExtended.esp
86 56 WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
87 57 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
88 58 dD - Small Splatter Size.esp
89 59 ASEFarHarbor.esp
90 5a BTInteriors_Project.esp
91 5b Vault98.esp
Z_Horizon_CPAM.esp
92 5c MojaveImports.esp
93 5d Z_Horizon_MojaveImports.esp
94 5e FHLeveledListIntegration.esp
95 5f Crossbow.esp
96 60 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
97 61 ForestGroveMarshSettelment.esp
98 62 Sanctuary Environmental Overhaul.esp
99 63 MoreAGOMBz.esp
100 64 Z_Horizon_Patch_ArmorsmithExtended.esp
101 65 ImmersiveGunnersPlaza.esp
102 66 NukaWorldRedRocketEx.esp
103 67 MoreAGOMBz_CP_ASE_ASEFH_ASENW.esp
104 68 ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp
105 69 BetterOpenSeason.esp
106 6a TrainBar.esp
107 6b DeadAirplane.esp
108 6c Goodfellow's Goodneighbor Defences.esp
109 6d Youth of the Commonwealth.esp
110 6e RecruitableSettlers.esp
111 6f QuazVehicleOverhaul.esp
112 70 Goodfellow's Diamond City Defences.esp
113 71 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
114 72 NukaWorldReborn.esp
115 73 RedWaveReloaded.esp
116 74 DrunkenGnomes_Gnomepocolypse.esp
117 75 PlaneWreck.esp
118 76 Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
119 77 BetterSettlers.esp
120 78 BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
121 79 SanctuaryNPCsOverhaul.esp
122 7a Vault-Tec Historical Preservation Initiative.esp
123 7b Minutemenoverhaul.esp
124 7c SSNPC - Minutemen.esp
125 7d DiamondCitySWAT.esp
126 7e walkers.esp
127 7f D.E.C.A.Y.esp
128 80 NewFace_Settlers.esp
129 81 starlightwingfix.esp
130 82 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
131 83 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown.esp
132 84 LR_APCTransport.esp
133 85 SpectacleIslandBoat.esp
134 86 Orphans.esp
135 87 LR_APCNukaWorldExspansion.esp
136 88 B84sThemedResidentials.esp
137 89 UFOCrashSite.esp
138 8a Conquest.esp
139 8b BunkerHillRaidPatrol.esp
140 8c ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
141 8d Z_Horizon_Patch_ArmorsmithExtendedDLC.esp
142 8e V88Improvements.esp
143 8f SS_Addon_PbPP.esp
144 90 TrailerParkDreams.esp
145 91 ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
146 92 BetterShackBridges.esp
147 93 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
148 94 Hamed Taneh-e-Derakht Wall.esp
149 95 WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp
150 96 orphans AE Patch.esp
151 97 ellen.esp
152 98 SKDuke.esp
153 99 Paulson.esp
154 9a FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
155 9b DWT_MegaMerchants.esp
156 9c BarnAdd.esp
157 9d SS MegaPackOneYear-Previews.esp
158 9e SimSettlements Previews Newest.esp
159 9f FunctionalDisplays-AID-WI.esp
160 a0 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
161 a1 Give Me That Bottle.esp
162 a2 SurvivalOptions.esp
163 a3 SurvivalOptions_GiveMeThatBottle_EveryonesBestFriend_Patch.esp
164 a4 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp
165 a5 Commonwealth_Livestock.esp
166 a6 DLCFixes.esp
167 a7 PiperArmoredCoat.esp
168 a8 WVSimSAddon.esp
169 a9 Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
170 aa SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
171 ab Emergent_Design_Curie_v2.esp
172 ac Natural Curie - Subtle Tweaks.esp
173 ad Rough_in_the_Diamond_Piper_v2_1.02.esp
174 ae Uncaged_Cait_v2.esp
175 af BusySettlers.esp
176 b0 ArmoryRifleAndHandgunRacks.esp
177 b1 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp
178 b2 Passthrough.esp
179 b3 SSAOP_SamutzVault88.esp
180 b4 BetterJunkFences.esp
181 b5 ManyFacedModWalterWhite.esp
182 b6 CompanionHealThyself.esp
183 b7 NickUsesRepairKits.esp
184 b8 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
185 b9 MTM-CompWeapons.esp
186 ba HorizonEatMyJunk.esp
187 bb Kim_Horizon_Glowsticks.esp
188 bc AD_ClassicCombatArmor-Horizon_Patch.esp
189 bd HorizonEatMyJunkDEFUIpatch.esp
190 be Horizon NPCT.esp
191 bf Z_PackAttack.esp
192 c0 CasualEngineer.esp
193 c1 K9TacticalHarness.esp
194 c2 Sanctuary NPCs Overhaul - Horizon Patch.esp
195 c3 BS-Horizon-Patch.esp
196 c4 BSCF-Horizon-Patch.esp
197 c5 TS-Horizon-Patch.esp
198 c6 HorizonArmorModsArmoryActivator.esp
199 c7 Fatigues Extended - FO.esp
200 c8 Fatigues Extended - Gunner LL Patch.esp
201 c9 MoreAGOMBz_CP_Horizon.esp
202 ca b4s-cc-armor-paint_horizon-patch.esp
203 cb b4s-handmade-shotgun-horizon-patch.esp
204 cc AD_CC_ModularMilitaryBackpack-Horizon_Patch.esp
205 cd Z_Horizon_StrictCarryWeight.esp
206 ce Z_Horizon_Patch_SimSettlements.esp
207 cf Z_Horizon_Patch_Crossbow.esp
208 d0 RaiderOverhaul.esp
209 d1 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
210 d2 Leyla the Companion.esp
211 d3 Sydney the Companion.esp
212 d4 Journal.esp
213 d5 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
214 d6 Z_Horizon_Patch_ScrapEverythingFull.esp
215 d7 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
216 d8 Z_Horizon_Patch_ELFX.esp
217 d9 StartMeUp.esp

[JimmyRJump]

You'll never get a decent answer to this kind of problem because there's to many variables involved. I mean, people plonk over two-hundred mods into their game and then complain that they have crashes. Playing a modded game is all about trial and error. Adding a few mods at a time to see which mods work and what other don't vis-a-vis what's already installed. Its the only way to keep track of certain problems that may arise and the only way to be able to more or less determine which mod doesn't seem to play nice with either the game or other mods.

 

Now, it's anyone's guess. To be combining Horizon with SIM Settlements and StartMeUp to boot, is already quite the bold move...

 

So, I suggest you start with just the basic mods you want to use and when there's no problems, add a few at a time.

[bbiller]

Ok, I see at least two things to worry about.

1. Pack Attack - This mod has been known to cause and have all kinds of issues, so I would see if diabling it fixes some of the issues you're having. I have seen a few other forum posts with this mod mentioned, so a search around the mod forums should yield a few interesting stories for you.

2. Scrap Everything - I have this, so I know of what I speak. Do have the core part of it in your mod list and do make sure it is as low as you can set it. Check my post "Need Some Help and Issues with Some Tools" (or titled close to that) page 2, as I have a good load order import list near the bottom of that page. Do put your Scrap Everything about where I have mine.

3. Dinoshelf - Nice as it is, there are some setups that don't like it, so do check the mod page and make sure you don't have an issue they already covered. If you do, fix it accordingly.

4. Functional Displays - The most I've heard with this is how things get placed down, but turning things around once found seems to set things right, just an extra step or two when building your settlements or player homes.

5. Crossbows of the Commonwealth - I've had the chem bench keep me stuck in the animation or unable to get out of the bench, but a quick fast travel command back to my settlement where I was crafting gets me out, so Survival Options and Better Console highly recommended so that you can work around things.

 

Other things to check: your mods for expanding the settlemeny boundaries, make sure they don't conflicy with something else. Check on train bar, as I think that's the modified Third Rail, so that may have a conflict with some other mods, so do check on that.

[Tilarium]

@bbiller,

 

Thanks! Removed pack attack and that alone has brought it back to playable standards. Still getting the occasional crash, but it's very manageable levels where I can play for hours and hours without worry.